Fibromyalgia/CFS

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The good news is that I am much much better. There was a time when I couldn’t be on my feet for even an hour. Now I can be on my feet all day long 👍 .
Thanks for sharing! This gives me hope that I can continue to improve with each passing year as well. The brain fog has been a big issue for me, too. My chemical sensitivity has gotten better regarding perfumes, etc., but there are still some that really bother me.

I’m feeling hopeful, but sort of a cautious optimism. I’ve had periods before where I’ve felt significantly better, only to be hit hard again with symptoms and fatigue.

Guess I just have to learn to appreciate the good times and offer up the not-so-good ones!
 
**Okay. I need to ask you all a question. I posted here a couple of times in the beginning of this thread. I am C-99 for those of you who don’t know me…a great big hello :wave:and a :console: hug, because I am so sorry you have to be posting here. 😦

Anyways, I have both of these lovely illnesses. Fibro and CFS.

Do you all feel kind of perpetual flu like symptoms besides the normal headaches, body pain and fatigue (like being clamy…but no fever, mild to moderate nausea, chest pain or congestion, sinus pain or congestion, dizziness, sore throat, stuffy nose, etc)

I ask this because as I get older (and we all know that Fibro makes you feel way older than you are…I sure as heck don’t have the energy, mobility, or ease of living as my peers in their twenties. Some days I have trouble just waking up and standing! I feel like a senior citizen most days. I have no clue what I’ll be like when I AM a senior citizen…hopefully I can still move at all by then. :o)

Okay…venting 😊…sorry…I will try this again. As I get older I seem to have more daily flu like symptoms. I mean every single day and most of the day, if not all of it.

Is this Fibro/CFS related? My doctors can never find anything wrong except Asthma. Everything else is lumped into the Fibro category. So is this also part of the package? Feeling like you have the flu every day? :confused:

I literally tell my husband several times a week that I really feel like I am coming down with something. Is this all in my head…or is it Fibro? 🤷

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I literally tell my husband several times a week that I really feel like I am coming down with something. Is this all in my head…or is it Fibro? 🤷

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It CAN be fibro. That’s why it’s important to have a good doc who won’t just assume that every new (and old) complaint is related to the fibro or CFS. But I don’t have a good doc so I know what it’s like to always be wondering…

without giving out medical advice, i suggest you ask your doc. It’s more than likely the fibro but there are so many other things it could be too…

I have gone through periods of time where I was perpetually nauseous. EVERY day. It was way worse than morning sickness and way less understandable by friends etc. I never threw up (so I know it wasn’t the flu) but it was awful.

Brain fog bad right now…sorry If I’m not clear…😊

malia
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I have gone through periods of time where I was perpetually nauseous. EVERY day. It was way worse than morning sickness and way less understandable by friends etc. I never threw up (so I know it wasn’t the flu) but it was awful.

Brain fog bad right now…sorry If I’m not clear…😊

malia
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**You are perfectly clear! 🙂

Everything else has been ruled out. I just wanted to know if I was just crazy or this could be fibro.

I too have the nausea that resembles morning sickness. And everyone here and their uncle knows I’m not preggo. I wake up feeling very dizzy and like I’m going to puke. And after I eat…its a little better. Then general nausea throughout the day. Then if I go to long w/out eating…I feel like I’m going to either faint (from dizziness) or puke. I have to eat before bed, cause if I don’t I wake up sick in the middle of the night. 🤷

The other symptoms (like sore throat, congestion, chest pain) are mostly constant throughout the day. Some of that could be asthma I guess. 🤷

I have no idea what “well” or “normal” or “not tired” or “not in pain” means. I have felt this way since I can remember. It makes me long all the more for heaven, where there will be no pain, no tears, where I can run all day and never get tired, where I can be awake…wide awake…and energetic 24/7/365. Oh how nice it will be! 😃
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I don’t know about fibro, but all those “flu-like” symptoms can absolutely be found with CFS! Sore throat and nausea have always been 2 of my most common symptoms. It took so long to diagnose me because the doctors kept saying that I must have a weak immuse system and I was catching things from all of the other kids at school. (Then they would give me antibiotics, which I would react to, which made the symptoms worse, which kept me going back to the doctors. What a stupid cycle!!)
 
I don’t know about fibro, but all those “flu-like” symptoms can absolutely be found with CFS! Sore throat and nausea have always been 2 of my most common symptoms. It took so long to diagnose me because the doctors kept saying that I must have a weak immuse system and I was catching things from all of the other kids at school. (Then they would give me antibiotics, which I would react to, which made the symptoms worse, which kept me going back to the doctors. What a stupid cycle!!)
**I am so very sorry you have this. But thank you for sharing your story. I used to be on so many antibiotics too. With my asthma I need them about three to five times a year due to the bronchitis…and that is a true need for them. But for several years I was on them like once a month, and then I started to just skip them and realized that I never got worse. Just always stayed the same. I realized I didn’t need them all those times, just when I had the bronchitis…and I certainly can tell the difference.

The sad thing is now that I am immune to the weaker antibiotics that when I actually do need them, for bronchitis, they often have to give me the strongest kinds on the market. It’s scary. :eek:
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I know that immune-related diseases such as fibro and CFS are often triggered by some type of virus, often mono (this was in part my case). The things with many of these viruses, like mono, is that they never really go away. They may lie dormant for awhile, but continue to sort of rear their ugly heads every once in awhile.

I, too, often have sore throat, nauseous feeling, etc., like I’m coming down with something. Often it’s the mono becoming active again. The virus often isn’t quite as potent as the first time you get it, so you might not always run a fever and the sore throat may not be as bad as it was the first time you had mono.

I don’t tolerate antibiotics well, either. Garlic is a great natural antibiotic, and has helped my symptoms.
 
I know that immune-related diseases such as fibro and CFS are often triggered by some type of virus, often mono (this was in part my case). The things with many of these viruses, like mono, is that they never really go away. They may lie dormant for awhile, but continue to sort of rear their ugly heads every once in awhile.

I, too, often have sore throat, nauseous feeling, etc., like I’m coming down with something. Often it’s the mono becoming active again. The virus often isn’t quite as potent as the first time you get it, so you might not always run a fever and the sore throat may not be as bad as it was the first time you had mono.

I don’t tolerate antibiotics well, either. Garlic is a great natural antibiotic, and has helped my symptoms.
Mono showed up in my extensive blood work. They said I could just have cronic mono (in addition to fibro.) So I don’t really know what’s what…or if I really AM sick…and WHEN I need to go to the doctor and when its just “me.” 🤷
 
May I ask how your doctors came up with fibromyalgia/CFS as the final diagnosis? I ask this because back in PA, we had a couple whereby the husband had these symptoms, but they never conclusively diagnosed it as this, and therefore he never got the right treatment. I felt badly, because he was always ill…for a long time. They tried steroids, antibiotics, you name it…and nothing seemed to help for very long. So, just curious how your drs rested on this diagnosis?

And, I’m very sorry for anyone suffering with this here…I remember my neighbor and he was in great pain…😦
 
Well, I really started showing symptoms at age 8, and my mother brought me to every doctor around. We spent years and years trying to figure out what was wrong. It wasn’t until I was 14 that an allergist said that “you might have chronic fatigue syndrome, but I don’t believe it exists”. :rolleyes:

Still, we were able to track down a CFS expert, and after a few more tests, she diagnosed CFS. And then, we went up to NY to a pediatric CFS specialist, who confirmed the diagnosis.

Basically, I got tested for pretty much everything else, and this is all that was left. 🤷

Thankfully, now I have a great doctor! He’s not especially knowledgable about the latest CFS treatments, but he actually had CFS himself, and he’s very good at helping me figure out what is a CFS symptom, and what isn’t. 👍

(I was just looking at this, and it really dawned on me exactly how long I’ve had CFS. I’m 26 now, so that’s 18 years! It’s been so long…I don’t really remember what it felt like to *not *have it!)
 
May I ask how your doctors came up with fibromyalgia/CFS as the final diagnosis? I ask this because back in PA, we had a couple whereby the husband had these symptoms, but they never conclusively diagnosed it as this, and therefore he never got the right treatment. I felt badly, because he was always ill…for a long time. They tried steroids, antibiotics, you name it…and nothing seemed to help for very long. So, just curious how your drs rested on this diagnosis?

And, I’m very sorry for anyone suffering with this here…I remember my neighbor and he was in great pain…😦
**This is my story. I was diagnosed with Fibro and CFS when they were still being debated as “real” illnesses. Often (15 or so years ago) doctors would just lump leftover symptoms into these categories of Fibro and CFS and Irritable Bowel (which I have too.) I had a really good doctor who believed that I was not making all this up. Eventually, as time went on, and I saw more and more specialists for my chronic problems, I keep getting negatives on all my tests, procedures, exams. Each and every doctor, would say it has to be “Fibro/CFS/Irritable Bowel.” After so many negatives on so many tests, and so many specialists of all different fields saying those diagnoses, I came to believe that this is what I in fact had, that there is little I can do to treat it, and I would have to make the best do that I can in this situation.
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**I have had mild to moderate symptoms of this since I could remember…so pre-school! The next flare up (or worsening of symptoms) was around 9/10. (Right as I began puberty.) Then another major flare up (meaning it worsened further) sometime during my eighth grade year. Then worsened again about 17/18. Then again at about 23. So…about every five years my condition worsens just a little more. I “loose” a little bit more of myself each time. It started with the fatigue and chronic illness and chronic stomach/GI symptoms. It then went to my neck, shoulders and arms…then to my head and hands…then to my back, and finally the last thing “to go” (or be affected) was my hips, legs, knees and feet.

I really don’t know what’s left to be affected, but, I am sure I’ll figure it out one of these days. 🤷 I really am aging so very quickly, though I look so very, very young appearance wise. I can’t imagine how bad I will be by the time I actually do reach middle to senior age. I probably will be in a wheelchair or have to stay in bed all day. It is SO VERY, VERY, VERY hard and I get so much grief from people. Like, “Come on you are so young, why are you so slow?” “Why can’t you keep up?” “Why can’t you do this or that?” “Why can’t you work, and hold down a job?” “Why can’t you make it on time ever?”

It is SO frustrating since so many people really don’t even believe that Fibro and CFS are “real” illnesses. I just don’t know what to do anymore. Thank the Lord that my husband is so super-supportive, and caring, and compassionate. He doesn’t have unrealistic expectations of me. Though I do often feel so very useless. Like I wish I could be and do so much more for and with him, but I just can’t. And he will never let me talk myself down. He sees so much more in me than I do in myself. He believes in me, that I am important, worthwhile, a special person in God’s plan for the good of all, even when my body may show the contrary. He lets me cry out my pain, and release my complaints, sorrows, fears, pains and aches to him. He is such an :angel1: I just love him so very, very much! ❤️
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Each and every doctor, would say it has to be “Fibro/CFS/Irritable Bowel.” After so many negatives on so many tests, and so many specialists of all different fields saying those diagnoses, I came to believe that this is what I in fact had, that there is little I can do to treat it, and I would have to make the best do that I can in this situation.
The IBS just by itself, if it is bad, is very tiring. And you feel like you have the flu on top of it all. 😦 Also, I understand how it is when they tell you they can’t do much to help. I’m so glad for you that your husband is supportive. With my husband, it is almost like he believes more than me. Maybe he is just more accepting of reality, I don’t know. My husband, in a number of ways, is clearly God’s gift made just for me.
 
If I had not had the support of my mom and some very close friends, I think I would have succumbed to despair. It took so long to find a doctor who was even AWARE of CFS/FMS and then to find one who did not treat me like I was just a nut case complaining whiny baby woman was even more difficult…I had a really rough week…abcessed tooth which meant heavy duty antibiotics which triggered a flare up and made me so damn sick…oral surgery on Thursday…It’s been 48 hours and all I can say is someone better be getting their butt out of purgatory or I am going to write a letter of complaint…I’m not sure to whom but by golly I am going to write it!
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**For me, worse than having doctors who didn’t believe in Fibro/CFS or thought I was making it all up were the ones who insisted I must be depressed. Of course, I was depressed over the whole situation (being a young teen with no life because I was sick all of the time) but the depression wasn’t causing the illness!!! And once ONE doctor writes that in your chart you’re pretty much done. No one will take you seriously and they just try to push pills at you. OR worse, insist that you are drug seeking:rolleyes:

Malia**
 
The IBS just by itself, if it is bad, is very tiring. And you feel like you have the flu on top of it all. 😦 Also, I understand how it is when they tell you they can’t do much to help. I’m so glad for you that your husband is supportive. With my husband, it is almost like he believes more than me. Maybe he is just more accepting of reality, I don’t know. My husband, in a number of ways, is clearly God’s gift made just for me.
**Yes I am so thankful for my husband and his support with my illnesses, and loving me and even marrying me knowing full well it might be a challenge at times, and sometimes more than not.

Before my husband, and still today, I have my mother and sister who are very understanding and supportive also. My sister, also, struggled with Fibro (and only Fibro) as a teenager and young adult. But, she was one of the lucky ones who ended up getting better with time. She is almost completely symptom free now…PRAISE GOD! 😃 I, on the other hand, seem to have the variety that progressively worsens, and nothing ever gets better, only worse! 🤷

I tell everyone that I am falling apart…but, if only they realized how true it was! It seems about every three to five years or so, something else goes kaput. But, nothing ever recovers. Just more things go kaput. I thank God I am still walking and able to get up in the mornings. Though, even that is getting hard at times. I feel like I am seventy or eighty and I am only twenty-five! I am supposed to be in my peak of health…🤷

I am so glad you have your husband and that he is supportive too! 🙂 I, too, am here for you if you ever want someone to talk to. Just PM me! 👍

Thank you, and all of you, for allowing me a safe and welcoming place to vent and let all this frustration out that has been bottled up inside. :hug1::grouphug:
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So tired tonight I just started crying. I have so much going on and I can’t slow down. I am being careful, but a flare is just around the corner. Please pray for me. The stress today was good, but the body doesn’t know the difference. But for today’s event a flare is worth it! My little Alena is a brand new Catholic. Praise the LORD!!

It was heartening to read the posts tonight. They hit so close to home, it could be my own writings. Thanks everyone for the support! I am not alone anymore. I keep meaning to answer Feanaro’s wife’s PM about who I am but I have just been too tired to think. But I did want to take a public opportunity to say a big shout out thanks to Malia for starting this thread. I have been so thankful for this thread, probably more so than any other, even the infertility thread. I could always hide my infertility. Fibro has always made me feel like a freak.

This sounds nutty, but ‘thanks to all of you for sharing my disease.’ You all get it, you really, really get it! God bless you all. May we all find deeper ways to uniting our suffering with Jesus.
 
**For me, worse than having doctors who didn’t believe in Fibro/CFS or thought I was making it all up were the ones who insisted I must be depressed. **
Absolutely!!

My primary pediatrician never did accept the diagnosis, even after 2 experts confirmed it. He was firmly convinced that my entire family had psychological problems. (Why we kept going back there, I’ll never know. I think my mother was determined to “vindicate herself”) But, anyway, about a year or two after diagnosis, the CFS flared really bad and I dropped out of school. (I missed 10th, 11th, and 12th grades totally!) Well, since he didn’t believe the diagnosis, my doctor kept threatening to call child welfare, because he really believed that my parents were somehow “making” me sick and intentionally keeping me home from school.

Interestingly enough, when we went though that earlier 7-year period with no working diagnosis, my mother refused to allow me to be seen by the psychologist that my pediatrician kept suggesting. (My mother was a psychiatric social worker, and she apparently knew this particular psychologist.) My mother kept saying “that guy could find depression in anyone, and if “depression” ever gets on your record, no one will ever dig deeper for a real cause!!” (Of course, this only further convinced my pediatrician that my family had psychological problems.) :rolleyes:

I’m glad that CFS is a (somewhat) more accepted illness these days.
 
But I did want to take a public opportunity to say a big shout out thanks to Malia for starting this thread. I have been so thankful for this thread, probably more so than any other, even the infertility thread. I could always hide my infertility. Fibro has always made me feel like a freak.

This sounds nutty, but ‘thanks to all of you for sharing my disease.’ You all get it, you really, really get it! God bless you all. May we all find deeper ways to uniting our suffering with Jesus.
**Now I’m crying.

I sometimes just sort of “go into the closet” about this whole situation and just try to pretend I’m somewhat normal. But it never works. I am in so much pain. I am so tired. And now I am a mommy. I can’t be in pain or tired anymore. I have to push harder than I’ve ever pushed myself and I’m breaking.

I am also thankful that you guys “share” this pain with me. I hate hate hate that anyone else has to feel like this but it feels good to be connected…

Malia

(no matter how little energy or brain power we have, let’s not let this thread die. Even a one word post every now and then just to let eachother know we’re still here. I need you guys)
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Here’s what’s confusing me.

I have no doubt that all these symptoms you all are describing are real (I have some, if not most, of them.)

I have no doubt a ‘condition’ exists. I’m struggling against it now.

BUT WHAT IS IT?

If there are no ‘tests,’ how can there be diagnosis? And if there is no diagnosis, then how can there be treatment?

Therefore, with a condition that has no known tests (from my understanding, they basically diagnose it by ruling out lots of other stuff), how can you positively confirm what you have, and HOW CAN YOU GET TREATMENT?

This is what drives me crazy.
 
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