Finding Happiness (A Mormon Video)

[why_me]

Yes the imagery is Catholic and it’s all negative, the people are sad faced, engaged in drudgery and alone. The churches are buildings devoid of people. Can you say dead churches? To underscore this, there is the bit that shows a church followed by a bridge then a cloister. The narrator says over the the church and bridge “our creations are impressive” then over the cloister there’s “but” followed by a pause. This is the topping on the “dead churches” and the lead in to wouldn’t you like something better.

Cue in to the smiling people engaged with the missionaries and the BOM. These people are not rushed or alone or performing drudgery. Closing with the happy couple opposed to the lonely young man at the train station. The whole ending implies if you come to us you won’t be lonely or rushed or stuck in drudgery ( I find the last part ironic in light of the LDS piling “callings” on the membership) The lonely man in the station has a choice he can choose to remain alone or call the LDS.

I don’t see how see this video as anything but one long emotional infomercial. I was talking about this with my kids this morning, since they are bombarded with advertising I make it a point to go over commercials with them now and then. I agree that watching them without sound is useful followed by a second time around with narration. At the end one of my 9yr olds (a budding smart aleck) piped up and called it The Blendy Pen Church.

Maybe we should look at it this way: In Europe there are many dead catholic churches, especially in France and Ireland. Hence, the people look lost and lonely and somewhat alienated from the human spirit. The imagery is certainly there and this would be in line with the pope’s message about secular relativism. Then, as people seek god, a transformation occurs. Thus, the video can be constructed along catholic lines without the sound.

What other way should the dangers of relativism be presented? Mother Teresa often spoke about the three forms of poverty. Material poverty, social poverty and spirtual poverty. This video without sound focused on social poverty and spiritual poverty.

 

[nebula]

It is evident that the Mormons don’t seem to understand the distinction between “made/created” and “begotten”. There’s a word of difference. God created the angels (and Satan fell from grace) but Jesus is begotten–He and the Father are one (and not just in mind either–they are of the “same stuff”.

AMD

Exactly! The thing is, MOrmons don’t understand why this is such a big deal, but it is, it’s the biggest deal… to equate God with creation, as Mormonism does… is there any bigger heresy?? It basically negates the existence of GOD.

Mormons, this is a BIG DEAL.

 

[Carl_Nicholas]

Problem fixed! I have now managed to join the last two files which I had difficulty with, to make one video file, and deleted all the rest. If you are interested, you can visit my YouTube channel to see the result. I may eventually upload some of the other versions of the video (especially the Asian ones), because although the message is the same, they are all interesting in their own ways.

zerinus

Hi MR. " Z "

Thanks for sharing , Great video
Thought I would offer you my thanks for this post ( fair is fair )

God bless,
Carl

 

[nebula]

The LDS Church has recently published a 6 minute video presentation which I thought is very interesting and professionally done. I searched to see if somebody has put it up on the Internet yet, but didn’t find any, so I decided to put it up there myself. Here it is:

youtube.com/zerinus

This is my first venture into YouTube; and also my first venture in the art of DVD ripping! I have not yet mastered the technique to perfection; but it is okay for now. Tell us what you think. I think it is good! What is your opinion? Does the Catholic Church has anything comparable?

zerinus

Can you really find true happiness in what is a lie?

 

[Carl_Nicholas]

Can you really find true happiness in what is a lie?

Hi nebula,

My perspective ( for what it’s worth ) as to the answer to your question is ABSOBATOOTLY.

I would offer that " true happiness " ( a self labeling ) has nothing at all to do with truth, rather, " truth" in many cases lends itself to humbleness and accountability.

Not arguing, just thought I would add my 2 cents.

God bless,
Carl

 

[nebula]

Hi nebula,

My perspective ( for what it’s worth ) as to the answer to your question is ABSOBATOOTLY.

I would offer that " true happiness " ( a self labeling ) has nothing at all to do with truth, rather, " truth" in many cases lends itself to humbleness and accountability.

Not arguing, just thought I would add my 2 cents.

God bless,
Carl

Carl,

I think you do have a point, but I would argue even though it’s a form of happiness, it’s not true happiness. How can true peace and joy be found in a religion which denies God and replaces him with a multitude of gods? That the whole religion is about striving to become a god as heavenly father is a god? That’s not an honest, thorough happiness, though I agree, people can be quite content with it.

 

[Carl_Nicholas]

Carl,

I think you do have a point, but I would argue even though it’s a form of happiness, it’s not true happiness. How can true peace and joy be found in a religion which denies God and replaces him with a multitude of gods? That the whole religion is about striving to become a god as heavenly father is a god? That’s not an honest, thorough happiness, though I agree, people can be quite content with it.

Hi again nebula,

Agreed ( thanks for the reply )

I would add to your quote " people can be quite content with it " with it also is a very inviting as well as an enormously appetizing idea that is offered to their prospective members. ( certainly a different " flavor " to choose from )

God bless,
Carl

 

[zerinus]

Mormons are happy because they have Heavenly Father as their god and Jesus as his son. It can work quite well.

Thank you why me; that was a good answer. However, I am particularly interested in the perspective offered in the video: finding happiness by making that “eternal connection”—by discovering the purpose of our design, and living in harmony with it.

zerinus

 

[zerinus]

Hi MR. " Z "

Thanks for sharing , Great video
Thought I would offer you my thanks for this post ( fair is fair )

God bless,
Carl

Thank you Carl. That video contains a very profound message. You will need to watch it more than once to appreciate the full meaning of the message it contains.

zerinus

 

[zerinus]

Can you really find true happiness in what is a lie?

Mormonism is true.

zerinus

 

[hosemonkey]

Mormonism is true.

zerinus

“mormonism is true.”(whirr,click) “mormonism is true.”(whirr,click) “mormonism is true.”(whirr,click) Truly, practicing mormonism is kinda like doing hard drugs. It makes you very happy for a while, but then you develop a tolerance and then you are hooked hard and then you have only the slavery of addiction and the creeping knowlege that you have been duped and that you have based your hope of salvation on a megalomaniac’s fantasy. Too bad.
Hey zerinus, “mormonism is true.” (whirr, click)

 

[notsmart]

The LDS Church has recently published a 6 minute video presentation which I thought is very interesting and professionally done. I searched to see if somebody has put it up on the Internet yet, but didn’t find any, so I decided to put it up there myself. Here it is:

youtube.com/zerinus

This is my first venture into YouTube; and also my first venture in the art of DVD ripping! I have not yet mastered the technique to perfection; but it is okay for now. Tell us what you think. I think it is good! What is your opinion? Does the Catholic Church has anything comparable?

zerinus

I watched it and the name of Jesus never came up once.

But, if one does not care about that it seems good from an appearance standpoint and the music was fine. I would ditch the narrator though for an american market. Its a slight turn off that way.

I watched it because I thought it would help me understand what makes mormons happy.

And, I got my answer.

Good luck with it

 

[Dauphin]

Thank you, those were very nice videos. I was wondering, however, if the Catholic Church officially publishes presentational materials of this kind. Those videos were published by Catholics Come Home, which I assume is an independent organization. The video I had put up is an official publication of the LDS Church.

zerinus

The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church doesn’t advertise. It has the Holy Spirit to do that for it.

 

[RebeccaJ]

Finding happiness in Mormonism, the ultimate oxymoron.

 

[xixxvmcm85]

Oh I just love how LDS commercials take just about every not-uniquely-Mormon facet of life (such as sports, prayer, friendship, patriotism, oh and FAMILY) and then peddle it off as if the LDS church itself came up with such things.

Even when I was a member of the LDS church, these commercials I found distasteful and oh too propaganda-like.

 

[hosemonkey]

Oh I just love how LDS commercials take just about every not-uniquely-Mormon facet of life (such as sports, prayer, friendship, patriotism, oh and FAMILY) and then peddle it off as if the LDS church itself came up with such things.

Even when I was a member of the LDS church, these commercials I found distasteful and oh too propaganda-like.

What made you leave the mormons for the True Church?
BTW, God keep you and welcome home!

 

[xixxvmcm85]

What made you leave the mormons for the True Church?
BTW, God keep you and welcome home!

I didn’t leave the LDS church to join the Catholic Church. These two events happened independent of each other.

I left the LDS church once I studied its history (along with early Christian history). I admit that I’m no buff when it comes to apostolic history, nonetheless I’d bet I know more than the average Mormon (or even the average “Catholic” for that matter).

I spent a year or so bouncing from one church to the next trying to find a “good fit”. Finally gave up on the endeavor, and even flirted with the idea that God didn’t exist at all.

Finally, and very reluctantly, at the request of my then-current girlfriend, I attended Mass with her. The experience was breathtaking. The devotion payed to the Eucharist assured me that this was THE Apostolic church that I had read about in books.

To think, had it not been for my anti-Catholic upbringing (not necessarily LDS induced), I may have come to the realization earlier that what I had been searching for was right under my nose the entire time!

 

[hosemonkey]

To think, had it not been for my anti-Catholic upbringing (not necessarily LDS induced), I may have come to the realization that what I had been searching for was right under my nose the entire time!

It very often happens that way.I spent 38 years as a professed atheist, studying religion with the intent of disproving the whole system. But as I made an in-depth study of Catholicism, I was faced with the horrible truth that the Catholic Church WAS the True church, founded by Jesus Christ Himself. One must be very honest when faced with a truth like this. I had no choice BUT to believe and be baptised. I have never looked back. You will never regret coming into the True Church, she will lay out her riches before you.

 

[xixxvmcm85]

Z:

YouTube now says that the video is no longer available.

Was it copyrighted by Bonneville or the Intellectual Reserve by chance?

 

[zaffiroborant]

Maybe we should look at it this way: In Europe there are many dead catholic churches, especially in France and Ireland. Hence, the people look lost and lonely and somewhat alienated from the human spirit. The imagery is certainly there and this would be in line with the pope’s message about secular relativism. Then, as people seek god, a transformation occurs. Thus, the video can be constructed along catholic lines without the sound.

What other way should the dangers of relativism be presented? Mother Teresa often spoke about the three forms of poverty. Material poverty, social poverty and spirtual poverty. This video without sound focused on social poverty and spiritual poverty.

The state of European secularism has nothing to do with the fact that this is obviously an emotionally manipulative commercial. I bet it was produced by LDS owned Bonneville International and their “Heartsell” program. Does any other “church” own an advertising company known for their emotional expertise in the advertising field? If the LDS church feels ok with using the same tactics that AC&F use well ok, but I don’t find it compelling and actually find it somewhat repellent.