First heartbeats may occur 16 days after conception: study

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The human heart may start beating as early as 16 days after conception, a new study in mice suggests, a finding that may help understand and prevent heart conditions that arise as a foetus develops.
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Researchers at the University of Oxford in the UK looked at the developing mouse heart and found that the muscle started to contract as soon as it formed the cardiac crescent - an early stage in heart development.
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In mice, this crescent forms 7.5 days after conception, which is equivalent to day 16 in the human embryo. Previously, it was thought that the heart started to contract a stage later, when the heart appears as a linear tube.
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Tim_D said:
Then what does?
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If we are a slave to secularism, then, I guess we might (but as G.E. points out, it could be earlier) conclude life begins 16 days after conception, with the heartbeat, because the secular definition of life is purely biological.

But as Children of God, we believe that life is spiritual and not biological; thus once is starts, it is without end.

So, Church teaching rightly marks the beginning of [never ending] life as conception.

Here is justification from the Catechism of the Catholic Church

366 The Church teaches that every spiritual soul is created immediately by God—it is not “produced” by the parents—and also that it is immortal: it does not perish when it separates from the body at death, and it will be reunited with the body at the final Resurrection.
 
Neofight said:
Heartbeat does not constitute start of life.
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I have heard people claiming that a baby is not alive until it responds to being held by his mother. After the baby is born.

On the other hand, when our babies were in the womb, we used to tickle their feet and they would pull back … and then kick again … and we would do this over and over.

Not alive?

No, pre-born babies are definitely alive.

There are now so many videos of babies in the womb actually doing things.

And you can track the start of life back … back … back to the very beginning.
 
I was just thinking–16 days… that’s before a woman knows she has missed her monthly… WOW!
 
Neofight said:
If we are a slave to secularism, then, I guess we might (but as G.E. points out, it could be earlier) conclude life begins 16 days after conception, with the heartbeat, because the secular definition of life is purely biological.

***But as Children of God, we believe that life is spiritual and not biological; thus once is starts, it is without end.

So, Church teaching rightly marks the beginning of [never ending] life as conception.***

Here is justification from the Catechism of the Catholic Church

366 The Church teaches that every spiritual soul is created immediately by God—it is not “produced” by the parents—and also that it is immortal: it does not perish when it separates from the body at death, and it will be reunited with the body at the final Resurrection.
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Emphasis mine. Why are people giving Neofight a hard time? The statement has been clarified. Or, perhaps I’m misunderstanding others.
 
It is mother’s day where I live.
May our Mother keep us and our children beneath Her mantle. She who is the loveliest Mother of all and who loves us and whom we love so much,may She guide us through our journey .
Heartfelt thanks,Mary. We love You. Have a great day!!
 
graciew said:
It is mother’s day where I live.
May our Mother keep us and our children beneath Her mantle. She who is the loveliest Mother of all and who loves us and whom we love so much,may She guide us through our journey .
Heartfelt thanks,Mary. We love You. Have a great day!!
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I’ll say AMEN!

👍
 
Neofight said:
Heartbeat does not constitute start of life.
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Human babies are the only organisms on earth that while growing, breathing, taking in nutrients and aging are not considered alive.

A tree relies on water, soil and sun to live. Adult humans rely on water, food and sun to live. We all rely on something to live. Are the only living things non-reliant? If I ripped a tree out of the ground could I argue that it wasn’t really living because it couldn’t live outside of the soil?
 
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