First Presidential Debate 9/26/16 Thread

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gardenswithkids said:
Are you sure the larger one is for Clinton and not for Trump? A smaller podium would look proportional to a smaller Clinton’s stature, but a larger podium would make her seem even smaller.

If the smaller one is for Trump, he will seem YUGE!!! in comparison to the podium.

I think Clinton wants the smaller one so both of them have podiums that appear proportional to their size.
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The photo I saw looked like there was a platform that might be moved behind hers to make her appear taller. More phoniness on her part. :rolleyes:
 
gilliam said:
Many podiums adjust for height. However I have never seen them custom made like this for a political debate. I believe this is a historic first and will be remembered.

A little history: Lincoln was very slim and tall. Douglas was very short and chubby. They didn’t use podiums at all in probably the most famous of all political debates. Most people think Douglas won or did very well in the debates. No one cared he was short.
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Wasn’t televised though. These things look weird on TV.

I don’t like Hillary but calling her out for this is silly. She is dramatically shorter. Being the first female candidate, there may not have been such a dramatic height difference before since debates started being televised (correct me if I am wrong).

People wear makeup on TV to make their skin look healthy under the lights. Visual impression is hugely important for TV viewing. It’s not dishonest, unless you think that being tall is a presidential quality 😛
 
ShrodingersCat said:
Wasn’t televised though. These things look weird on TV.

I don’t like Hillary but calling her out for this is silly. She is dramatically shorter. Being the first female candidate, there may not have been such a dramatic height difference before since debates started being televised (correct me if I am wrong).

People wear makeup on TV to make their skin look healthy under the lights. Visual impression is hugely important for TV viewing. It’s not dishonest, unless you think that being tall is a presidential quality 😛
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If it wasn’t important, why is she making it seem important?

As long as they don’t make exceptions to debate rules, it is fair. Ergo them disallowing her a stool to sit on. Having pneumonia for 6 months can be taxing.
 
Hi,
I think it was done before. I’m not sure if this is correct but it may have been Nixon.
MAY GOD’S LOVE BE ON THE STAGE.
in Christ’s love
Tweedlealice
 
Maximilan_Kolbe said:
Nonsense. The rules disallow it, IIRC. And you don’t accede to someone’s health concerns by giving their opponent the same opportunity because it may be of no benefit to their opponent.

Reminds me of the controversy with Casey Martin, who sued to be able to use a golf cart on the PGA tour, due to his disability. He argued it presented to competitive advantage, and some proffered that it would be fair if others could use it to. Why is that fair? His competitors don’t need it. He does. Might as well allow people with asthma to use oxygen tanks in the Olympic marathon too.

If Donald or Hillary can’t make it through a 90 minute debate without collapsing from exhaustion or a medical issue, they are not fit to handle the White House.
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Hi,
It is a test of physiical and mental strength.
No chairs.
On the golf cart iseue, it should be all or none. Walking is exertional. Players would get their game off. If one can ride=all can ride.
In. Christ’s love
Tweedlealice

May God give them both inner strength w His grace.
 
gardenswithkids said:
Are you sure the larger one is for Clinton and not for Trump? A smaller podium would look proportional to a smaller Clinton’s stature, but a larger podium would make her seem even smaller.

If the smaller one is for Trump, he will seem YUGE!!! in comparison to the podium.

I think Clinton wants the smaller one so both of them have podiums that appear proportional to their size.
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Yes. Furthermore, the article doesn’t really say this was ordered by Mrs. Clinton:
It is believed that the larger one was built at Clinton’s request to make her appear taller than she is.
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Yeah, and whose belief — whose rash judgement — is that? It is quite plausible that it is the television producer’s call. He/she just wants things to look well proportioned. It would look goofy if Mrs. Clinton stood at a large podium and Mr. Trump stood at a small one.

Tabloid journalism. Sheesh!
 
Beryllos said:
Yes. Furthermore, the article doesn’t really say this was ordered by Mrs. Cllinton:

Yeah. Who believes that? It is quite plausible that this is the television producer’s call. He/she just wants things to look well proportioned. It would look goofy if Mrs. Clinton stood at a large podium and Mr. Trump stood at a small one.

Tabloid journalism. Sheesh!
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This whole thing is soooo silly. Anything to take our attention away from the REAL problems. We have worse things than this to worry about when it comes to Clinton!!! God Bless, Memaw
 
Memaw said:
This whole thing is soooo silly. Anything to take our attention away from the REAL problems. We have worse things than this to worry about when it comes to Clinton!!! God Bless, Memaw
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It’s not silly–it’s smoke and mirrors. Perception is the name of the game in politics, and those who are doing the filming are well aware of how to stage a show. Looking small in stature compared to Trump subconsciously could make her seem smaller in other ways too.

Distance and proportion affects our perception of size. If a small person by a small podium is filmed standing close to the camera than a large person by a large podium, their sizes can’t be accurately detected on film. Cameras can lie–remember the television industry makes small scale models of planes and starships, which look realistically large when filmed and shown on tv. Proportion, lighting and camera angles goes how we perceive images. Television relies on more than just what they are saying on the audio–it relies heavily on the visual. And in this televised debate, people who want Hillary to win and who know how to stage a performance care very much how big or small she looks.

Hillary is around 5’4". Trump is 6’2 or 6’3". She’s around the average height of a woman while he’s tall for a man. If she stood in front of a podium that was the right size for him, she’d look sort of like a little kid looks when sitting in a big chair. Small.
 
Fox has been showing shots of the debate stage. The two podiums appear to be identical from the viewpoint of the audience, but we can’t see what is behind them (i.o.w., what the candidates will be standing on).
 
DaveBj said:
Fox has been showing shots of the debate stage. The two podiums appear to be identical from the viewpoint of the audience, but we can’t see what is behind them (i.o.w., what the candidates will be standing on).
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A pile of lies and scandals should add 3 inches to Hillary, at least.
 
DaveBj said:
Fox has been showing shots of the debate stage. The two podiums appear to be identical from the viewpoint of the audience, but we can’t see what is behind them (i.o.w., what the candidates will be standing on).
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Wonder what that “block of wood” standing next to one of the podiums is all about? Fox has pointed it out several times.
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No matter. Most of know that Hillary is not six feet tall. That is along with the other stuff we know about her.🙂
 
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