First Presidential Debate 9/26/16 Thread

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7_Sorrows said:
yes this is the Clinton machine and George Soros in action. Do you ever wonder what the deal was between Obama and Clinton?
She was probably promised the democratic nomination in 2016.
They can’t afford for her to lose so they will be doing a lot of mudslinging at Trump and he knows it.
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Clinton brought up this Miss Universe from 20 years ago. She most likely did it purposefully, knowing that it would make him defensive.

He started commenting on it Monday on fox and friends. And his most recent comment was on Twitter about an hour ago.

He sent out a number of Tweets attacking Ms. Machado.

What does George Soros have to do with how he responds on interviews and how he posts on Twitter?

What he could have said at the debate was, “I don’t recall interacting with this MissUniverse, and I had no intentions of hurting her feelings. I run a very great pagent, all the Miss Universe contestants mean so very much to me”. And left it at that.

But no. He just has to keep going on and on and on.
 
qui_est_ce said:
From what I have read, most Trump supporters express misgivings about him. But their misgivings about Hillary are even greater.

Please don’t make blanket statements like that.
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Exactly! My fears about a HC presidency overrides any misgivingsI have about Trump.
Having said that,I do have to agree that his Twitter incident,was in bad form and does show a very immature side of his personality.Sigh…,he needs to stop taking the bait.:eek:
 
gracepoole said:
Do you ever wonder if she didn’t pull off the nomination in 2008 but managed to in 2016, not because of some “deal” but because the majority of Democratic voters chose her in this primary?
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👍 Yep she won by over 3 million votes and by a 10% margin among Democratic primary voters in 2016.
 
Jeanne_S said:
Exactly! My fears about a HC presidency overrides any misgivingsI have about Trump.
Having said that,I do have to agree that his Twitter incident,was in bad form and does show a very immature side of his personality.Sigh…,he needs to stop taking the bait.:eek:
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But the question is can he stop without a teleprompter? It doesn’t appear so.
 
Al_Moritz said:
Poll: Clinton leads by 6 points in Nevada

Another post-debate, swing-state poll shows Hillary Clinton leading Donald Trump — this time in Nevada, posting a 6-point advantage over the beleaguered GOP nominee.

Clinton leads Trump, 44 percent to 38 percent, in a Suffolk University poll released Friday. The poll, conducted Tuesday-Thursday, also shows Libertarian Gary Johnson at 7 percent, with the remaining 11 percent choosing another minor-party candidate, undecided or the state-specific “none of these candidates” option that appears on the Nevada ballot.

Clinton’s surge in Nevada isn’t yet translating downballot: GOP Rep. Joe Heck still has a slight lead in the state’s closely watched open-seat Senate race, ahead of Democrat Catherine Cortez Masto, 38 percent to 35 percent. But there’s still a lot of volatility in the race to replace retiring Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid: More than 27 percent of likely voters chose a minor candidate, were undecided or said they would vote for the “none of these candidates” options.

In the presidential race, white voters tilt toward Trump, 46 percent to 38 percent. But Clinton leads among non-white voters by a wider margin: 54 percent to 24 percent.

While half of likely voters still have an unfavorable impression of Clinton, her favorable rating is nearly 10 points ahead of Trump’s: 45 percent for Clinton, to 36 percent for Trump. Fifty-nine percent of likely voters have an unfavorable opinion of Trump.

Clinton is also viewed as more honest and trustworthy than Trump coming out of the debate this week: 38 percent of likely voters said they think Clinton is honest, compared to only 34 percent for Trump.

And Nevada voters agree with other scientific polls nationally and in the states that Clinton did the better job at this week’s debate: 57 percent of likely voters in the Suffolk poll who watched the debate said Clinton won, compared to 23 percent who picked Trump as the winner.
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Clinton also appears to be leading Trump by 6 points, according to one poll, in the critical battleground state of Florida. However, there is bound to be fluctuation during the next month in most of the swing states. It is not easy for many people to pick their poison.
 
Jeanne_S said:
Having said that,I do have to agree that his Twitter incident,was in bad form and does show a very immature side of his personality.Sigh…,he needs to stop taking the bait.:eek:
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Can the US risk having a president who is often as immature as Mr. Trump seems to be?

From CNN:
Trump’s conduct since the first debate has been astonishing for a major party nominee just 39 days away from the election. Instead of zeroing in on his strongest points from Monday night on jobs and trade, he’s cited fake polls, resurfaced Bill Clinton’s marital scandals from the 1990s, floated a conspiracy theory about Google searches and attacked 1996’s Miss Universe.
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And after Hillary Clinton raised allegations that Trump called 1996 Miss Universe Alicia Machado “Miss Piggy” and “Miss Housekeeping,” Trump has kept that controversy alive by refusing to apologize, instead seeking to discredit Machado and justify his apparent comments and similar ones he made in interviews at the time.
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The overnight tweeting spree once again brought into focus Trump’s apparent unwillingness or inability to back away from a fight, regardless of who is attacking him. It’s a habit that serves to keep the attention away from his core campaign message and also emphasizes Clinton’s argument that Trump lacks the temperament to be president.
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cnn.com/2016/09/30/politics/trump-overnight-media-tweets/index.html

So Instead of reinforcing his own best arguments from the debate, he’s reinforcing Mrs. Clinton’s best arguments for why he shouldn’t be president…
 
With post debate polls coming in, Nate Silver now has Hillary Clinton’s chances skyrocketing from what they were.

If the election were today, Silver has Clinton with a 76% chance of winning and 312 electoral votes.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now (Click the now forecast on the lefthand side)

And even if Trump were to win OH and NC, based on the current polls, Clinton still is given a 67% chance and nearly 300 electoral votes.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
 
Jeanne_S said:
Exactly! My fears about a HC presidency overrides any misgivingsI have about Trump.
Having said that,I do have to agree that his Twitter incident,was in bad form and does show a very immature side of his personality.Sigh…,he needs to stop taking the bait.:eek:
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The man is unstable.
 
qui_est_ce said:
From what I have read, most Trump supporters express misgivings about him. But their misgivings about Hillary are even greater.

Please don’t make blanket statements like that.
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thank you! 👍 this is very true!
 
7_Sorrows said:
no. he is not used to the nastiness of politics and how far the opposition will go.
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So his opponents are all being nasty to him and he’s been nothing but nice during the whole campaign?

It reminds me of the saying, “if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.”
 
gracepoole said:
Do you ever wonder if she didn’t pull off the nomination in 2008 but managed to in 2016, not because of some “deal” but because the majority of Democratic voters chose her in this primary?
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I think she wanted it badly in 2008 because she was older than Obama. She did not want to wait another 4-8 years. Obama had lots of time to
wait. So I wonder how they talked her into it.
She is desperate to win now! She really feels she is owed it or deserves it!
 
7_Sorrows said:
no. he is not used to the nastiness of politics and how far the opposition will go.
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Maybe it would have been to his benefit had he actually sought a political office in his 70 yrs before seeking the highest office in the land with absolutely no political experience. But Thoroflr pretty much got it right.
 
7_Sorrows said:
I think she wanted it badly in 2008 because she was older than Obama. She did not want to wait another 4-8 years. Obama had lots of time to
wait. So I wonder how they talked her into it.
She is desperate to win now! She really feels she is owed it or deserves it!
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Talked her into what? She lost in 2008 and decided to try again in 2016 and this time she won the Democratic primaries with over 3 million more votes than her primary opponent and by a 55%-45% margin. And I say that as someone who voted for her primary opponent.
 
Sy_Noe said:
Maybe it would have been to his benefit had he actually sought a political office in his 70 yrs before seeking the highest office in the land with absolutely no political experience. But Thoroflr pretty much got it right.
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In my opinion, it’s Mr. Trump that has mostly been responsible for making this campaign one of the ugliest on record and it started in the primaries with his name calling of his Republican adversaries.

But considering how ugly it’s gotten, Mrs. Clinton has handled herself amazingly well. And she’s been putting up with an incredible amount of vitriol directed her way for 30 years and if any of this has gotten under her skin, she certainly hasn’t shown it very much in public which is something I rather admire about her.
 
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