First Presidential Debate 9/26/16 Thread

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Trump struggled at times getting the exact words out that he needed to make his points.

Clinton had a smug condescending smile that quickly went sour when Trump called her out as having a holier than thou attitude.

Trump scored major points by repeatedly talking about Clinton’s 30 year record of not solving problems. He actually scored major points on foreign affairs ; which was quite an accomplishment considering her experience as Secretary of State.

Clinton was able to paint him as a racist and as sexist. Those are nasty attacks the Democrats are well versed in.

Trump missed several opportunities to hit hard on trust issues especially the e-mail scandal.

Overall Trump did what he needed to do…Appear competent and presidential. Clinton, to me, came off as calculating, smug and vindictive.

I give the match to Trump, But not by knockout.

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oldgraymare2 said:
Hi meltzerboy,

Actually, I’m not committed to either candidate. I’m an independent voter. I’m still undecided. I have my ballot here already, sitting next to my computer. It’s pretty much “staring me in the face.” 😉

I have time to decide yet, about what I’m going to do, but I have never felt so undecided about an election before. O.K…

Don’t want to take it off-topic.
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I can certainly empathize with your indecision this election cycle.
 
7_Sorrows said:
Hillary took a lot of cheap shots and I think Trump bit his tongue and would have liked to have said some things back, but restrained himself.
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I think that was the strategy. Hillary was trying very hard to get under Trump’s skin and get him to make personal attacks. He didn’t.

This debate wasn’t about the issues. No one tuned into the debate to find out how either candidate stood on the issues. We already know where they stand.

For Hillary this debate was all about making Trump look un-presidential. We can debate whether she succeeded in this goal or not.
 
Focus groups on FOX and CNN both say overwhelmingly Clinton won the debate.

On FOX, Frank Luntz had a focus group. 16 said Clinton won. 6 Trump.

CNN’s focus group of undecideds in Orlando FL, a swing state: 18 said Clinton won. Only 2 thought Trump won.

mediaite.com/tv/focus-groups-on-cnn-fox-overwhelmingly-say-clinton-won-debate/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mediaite%2FxXeM+%28Mediaite%29

CNN/ORC poll 62% Clinton won. Only 27% Trump.

cnn.com/2016/09/26/politics/presidential-debate-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/
 
Trump did well enough to keep the momentum going in his direction.

I agree that there were many openings in which he could have prosecuted her record more thoroughly but that simply means he will be even stronger for the next two debates.
 
Sy_Noe said:
Focus groups on FOX and CNN both say overwhelmingly Clinton won the debate.

On FOX, Frank Luntz had a focus group. 16 said Clinton won. 6 Trump.

CNN’s focus group of undecideds in Orlando FL, a swing state: 18 said Clinton won. Only 2 thought Trump won.

mediaite.com/tv/focus-groups-on-cnn-fox-overwhelmingly-say-clinton-won-debate/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mediaite%2FxXeM+%28Mediaite%29

CNN/ORC poll 62% Clinton won. Only 27% Trump.

cnn.com/2016/09/26/politics/presidential-debate-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/
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This could help HRC with polls.

I didn’t watch the debate but I have read people’s posts on different sites, and many seemed disappointed.
I hope Gary Johnson gets in the debates. Not bc I think he would be a great president, but maybe, just maybe with him being there, one of the two candidates sees a threat and actually talks business.
 
gilliam said:
I think that was the strategy. Hillary was trying very hard to get under Trump’s skin and get him to make personal attacks. He didn’t.

This debate wasn’t about the issues. No one tuned into the debate to find out how either candidate stood on the issues. We already know where they stand.

For Hillary this debate was all about making Trump look un-presidential. We can debate whether she succeeded in this goal or not.
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I agree. I am sure they will have him watch his performance over and over. he didn’t know what to expect - now he knows! she will play as dirty as she needs to.
 
abucs said:
Trump did well enough to keep the momentum going in his direction.

I agree that there were many openings in which he could have prosecuted her record more thoroughly but that simply means he will be even stronger for the next two debates.
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Even if he doesn’t lose supporters, when the perception is he lost so badly, I think it could have stalled his momentum.
 
I think Trump lost tonight’s debate. Trump did not do a good job of making the focus about Clinton. He tried, and was successful in the early going, but ultimately he wasn’t able to close the deal. Clinton didn’t do very well either, she looked elitist to me. Very condescending attitude. Trump failed to capitalize on that.
 
Sy_Noe said:
Even if he doesn’t lose supporters, when the perception is he lost so badly, I think it could have stalled his momentum.
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He lost, but it wasn’t a terrible performance compared to Clinton’s. I’d give Clinton a C+ and Trump a C-.
 
Stylteralmaldo said:
He lost, but it wasn’t a terrible performance compared to Clinton’s. I’d give Clinton a C+ and Trump a C-.
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I meant the percentages who thought she won in the 3 polls I cited were overwhelmingly in her favor. 90% of undecideds in a focus group in Orlando. 73% of FOX’s focus group and 62% vs 29% for Trump in the CNN/ORC poll.
 
Now we know that Lester Holt is a Democrat. He is not man enough to stand up to NBC as he knows he would lose his job and also his son’s job who works there.

He would not stop Hillary from talking, he let her talk over Trump, she lied several times and looked like the cat that swallowed the canary. Such a smug face. Holt also interrupted Trump constantly so that Trump could not get his thoughts together.

Holt was terrible and I am sure that the others will be the same. I don’t understand why the RNC doesn’t demand that half the moderators are Republicans who are not anti Trump.

Of course Hillary has done this 15 times and has had 8 years to prepare. I have lost all respect for both parties, but for the Democrats more. One of the media said that it seemed she was reading a teleprompter. I felt she looked like a robot and was repeating what had been programed into her.

Whether one likes Trump or not I believe he has a heart and does want the best for the U.S. Hillary just want power and don’t be surprised if we have a dictator after the election. Our country has really gone to pot. I remember when life seemed hopeful and I understand that many are too young to remember the good old days.

Hopefully Trump will reconsider the next debates and set different fair standards for it. I knew this would happen.

Bernadette
 
BernadetteM said:
I remember when life seemed hopeful and I understand that many are too young to remember the good old days.
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The “good old days” weren’t always very good for a lot of people in our country, especially people of color.
 
BernadetteM said:
Now we know that Lester Holt is a Democrat. He is not man enough to stand up to NBC as he knows he would lose his job and also his son’s job who works there.

He would not stop Hillary from talking, he let her talk over Trump, she lied several times and looked like the cat that swallowed the canary. Such a smug face. Holt also interrupted Trump constantly so that Trump could not get his thoughts together.

Holt was terrible and I am sure that the others will be the same. I don’t understand why the RNC doesn’t demand that half the moderators are Republicans who are not anti Trump.

Of course Hillary has done this 15 times and has had 8 years to prepare. I have lost all respect for both parties, but for the Democrats more. One of the media said that it seemed she was reading a teleprompter. I felt she looked like a robot and was repeating what had been programed into her.

Whether one likes Trump or not I believe he has a heart and does want the best for the U.S. Hillary just want power and don’t be surprised if we have a dictator after the election. Our country has really gone to pot. I remember when life seemed hopeful and I understand that many are too young to remember the good old days.

Hopefully Trump will reconsider the next debates and set different fair standards for it. I knew this would happen.

Bernadette
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I heard that Lester Holt is a registered Republican but I did not verify this information. I do agree that Holt seemed a bit partial toward Clinton, allowing her to keep talking and all the while rushing Trump to finish up.
 
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