First TLM?

[ethelzguy]

The outfit would indeed be considered to be too revealing in many TLM settings. Our parish’s dress code prohibits, for example, sleeveless tops and low necklines, both of which are evident in the picture.

Just out of curiosity, what would happen if someone came into Mass at your parish wearing that dress as pictured? Would they be stopped at the door? Or, escorted out?

I’ve always been fascinated by so-called “dress codes” at Church.

 

[nannygirl]

Just out of curiosity, what would happen if someone came into Mass at your parish wearing that dress as pictured? Would they be stopped at the door? Or, escorted out?

I’ve always been fascinated by so-called “dress codes” at Church.

No, women dress that way all the time at our church (even skimpier) and no one pays any attention, but they would be barred from the Vatican dressed that way.

 

[Chatter163]

Just out of curiosity, what would happen if someone came into Mass at your parish wearing that dress as pictured? Would they be stopped at the door? Or, escorted out?

I’ve always been fascinated by so-called “dress codes” at Church.

I am not sure what a "so-called ‘dress code’ " is, though that sounds like a pejorative term. We have such a code to promote a modest, prayerful, non-distracting atmosphere in the church.

The code is posted at the entrance to the church and is reviewed occasionally in the bulletin. If someone is dressed inappropriately, a priest quietly informs the party for future reference as to the code. No fuss, nor problem. I don’t know why that would prove so “fascinating.”

 

[frenchlady]

I find this thread interesting since I’ve never been to a TLM. The closest one is almost 3 hrs. away. Someone mentioned that one doesn’t say “Amen” before receiving the host. What is the reasoning behind this? I’m not being snarky; I just haven’t heard this one before and am wondering why it was added to the NO. At least, I’m assuming that that’s when it was added. I can only remember say “Amen” before receiving.

 

[Chatter163]

The questiom, of course, is the reason as to why the Amen was added to the OF, since that was the innovation, rather than the former practice of many centuries.

The formula of administration was shortened and the Amen was added to allow the recipient to affirm his or her belief in the Real Presence. In the old rite the priest says in Latin, “May the Body of Our Lord Jesus Christ preserve your soul unto everlasting life. Amen.”

 

[ethelzguy]

The questiom, of course, is the reason as to why the Amen was added to the OF, since that was the innovation, rather than the former practice of many centuries.

Why do people continue to ignore the fact that the Church DID change over it’s first 1900+ years, as if the ONLY change in the Church took place after Vatican II?

The formula of administration was shortened and the Amen was added to allow the recipient to affirm his or her belief in the Real Presence. In the old rite the priest says in Latin, “May the Body of Our Lord Jesus Christ preserve your soul unto everlasting life. Amen.”

Does “more words” automatically equal “better” ???

 

[frenchlady]

What about the chapel veils? Are there any specific requirements, such as color and size? I wonder about this because I’m a knitter and actually wanted to make my own.

 

[Chatter163]

Does “more words” automatically equal “better” ???

Did anyone say that they did?

 

[Chatter163]

Originally Posted by Chatter163 forums.catholic-questions.org/images/buttons_cad/viewpost.gif
The question, of course, is the reason as to why the Amen was added to the OF, since that was the innovation, rather than the former practice of many centuries.

Why do people continue to ignore the fact that the Church DID change over it’s first 1900+ years, as if the ONLY change in the Church took place after Vatican II?

The formula of administration was shortened and the Amen was added to allow the recipient to affirm his or her belief in the Real Presence. In the old rite the priest says in Latin, “May the Body of Our Lord Jesus Christ preserve your soul unto everlasting life. Amen.”

Did someone claim that? I am totally confused, as you seem to be drawing false conclusions, based on statements that I never made.

 

[laudamus_te]

Did someone claim that? I am totally confused, as you seem to be drawing false conclusions, based on statements that I never made.

Chatter, I’d suggest you ignore ethelzguy. He has a habit of doing this kind of thing.

 

[laudamus_te]

What about the chapel veils? Are there any specific requirements, such as color and size? I wonder about this because I’m a knitter and actually wanted to make my own.

There’s no specific requirements regarding head covering. Some people wear hats, others beautiful long mantillas, still others the little chapel caps (I call them “doilies”). Even a scarf will do (or in the old days, in emergency cases, a kleenex). I think something hand-knit would be interesting.

 

[Mattjolley]

Here’s my two cents as a 21 year old who first went to a TLM about a year ago:

The church was around 20 miles away so around 30 minutes drive, not too bad. However, my car was broken into outside this church the second time I went, so I had to find elsewhere to go to the TLM.

I must say at this point being 21 I am born and raised in the NO and just after easter this year I finally became an altar server for the saturday vigil at my local parish. So I serve on a saturday, and normally try to make the trip to Manchester on the occasional sunday when I can. (The trip to this church is about the same distance as the first I found)

Anyhow, because I only go occasionally, I still have to struggle to keep up in my missal, and at the start of the mass, find myself missing out great big sections of the order of mass. I still follow those around me but I think im getting the hang of it. I love the TLM though and whilst I dont have anything against the NO, the TLM adds something to my worship, perhaps its the silent feeling of being so close to the Lord, whearas I am concentrating on my saturday vigil to do my best for the mass and to offer my actions up to the Lord.

Something I find may help though, dont worry to flip between the order of mass and the propers of the mass which change each week, you might get distracted or as I do, left behind!

At the moment I read these when I’m home later on, and just take the mass for what it is when I’m there. It gives me the chance to reflect later on about the message of today’s readings, whilst not being bogged down in ribbons during the mass itself. Our TLM doesnt have the Gospel in the vernacular, so I rely on the Homily, unless I can follow the propers for that day which isnt very often!

 

[Mattjolley]

I’m so sorry, my last post was supposed to help, but I think its just a big mess! I hope it has at least a little something to help somebody.

 

[nannygirl]

What about the chapel veils? Are there any specific requirements, such as color and size? I wonder about this because I’m a knitter and actually wanted to make my own.

That’s a great idea. Many women I know make their own head coverings. There aren’t any requirements about size or color. I have several mantillas in all different sizes and colors- even one that practically wraps around my whole upper body. Some women like to wear brightly colored scarves. It’s entirely up to you.

 

[frenchlady]

Thanks for the info and encouragement. I love knitting; it’s actually quite a meditative activity especially if the pattern is a simple one. Very conducive to prayer.

 

[iona_scribe]

There’s no specific requirements regarding head covering. Some people wear hats, others beautiful long mantillas, still others the little chapel caps (I call them “doilies”). Even a scarf will do (or in the old days, in emergency cases, a kleenex). I think something hand-knit would be interesting.

Hello. I have a question; are women required to wear a mantilla at the TLM? My husband and I found out that a nearby church has a Latin Mass and we’re excited to go this Sunday. I have no idea where to acquire a mantilla, and I’m afraid to go if not having one will be disrespectful. Does anyone have advice on this?

 

[mullenpm]

Quite frankly, the outfit as pictured appears to me to be lingerie; that outfit would not seem proper at any Mass – TLM or not.

Surely you have a day time dress that you could wear to Mass on Sunday. What do you wear at your own church?

 

[Mister_De]

Quite frankly, the outfit as pictured appears to me to be lingerie; that outfit would not seem proper at any Mass – TLM or not.

Surely you have a day time dress that you could wear to Mass on Sunday. What do you wear at your own church?

I strongly agree. One has to wonder whether the person wearing such an outfit is going to a church or a brothel. That dress is highly inappropriate to wear in public, whether you’re going to Mass or not. The original poster says she will be wearing a sweater over it. Why buy a dress if the only way you can wear it is if you cover it up with a modest sweater?

 

[nannygirl]

Hello. I have a question; are women required to wear a mantilla at the TLM? My husband and I found out that a nearby church has a Latin Mass and we’re excited to go this Sunday. I have no idea where to acquire a mantilla, and I’m afraid to go if not having one will be disrespectful. Does anyone have advice on this?

Our TLM doesn’t “require” a head covering, but most women wear them, so you might feel more comfortable wearing something. It doesn’t have to be a mantilla, just something that covers your head- hat, scarf, etc. Our local Catholic bookstore/gift shop has basic mantillas, but the beautiful ones can be found online (HaloWorks).

If the church you are attending prefers that women wear headcoverings, they will have some spare ones around.

I hope this will be a wonderful experience for you as it has been for me these last couple of years.

May God richly bless you!

 

[iona_scribe]

Our TLM doesn’t “require” a head covering, but most women wear them, so you might feel more comfortable wearing something. It doesn’t have to be a mantilla, just something that covers your head- hat, scarf, etc. Our local Catholic bookstore/gift shop has basic mantillas, but the beautiful ones can be found online (HaloWorks).

If the church you are attending prefers that women wear headcoverings, they will have some spare ones around.

I hope this will be a wonderful experience for you as it has been for me these last couple of years.

May God richly bless you!

Thank you That’s very helpful. I’m looking forward to it very much.