Five myths about antifa

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Its tragic that some people in OR refused to leave their homes when the forest fires threatened because they believe antifa had set the fires so it could loot homes. People just believe that hoax and others. Trump says he’s going to subpoena antifa but there is no ‘antifa’ organization!

Myths include:

Antifa is a single organization

"On May 31, President Trump tweeted “The United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization.” Attorney General William P. Barr echoed his sentiments by arguing … that [it] is interested in some form of socialism.”

But Trump cannot designate “ANTIFA” as a terrorist organization because antifa is not an organization. Rather, it is a politics of revolutionary opposition to the far right. "

Antifa masterminds violence at Black Lives Matter protests.​

"[N]either the Justice Department, the FBI nor the press have found evidence to corroborate the grandiose allegation that the most widespread and significant political upheaval this country has seen in half a century was masterminded by one shadowy organization. Not even in Portland .

Antifa is affiliated with the Democratic Party.​

"In August, a fake antifa website began to redirect users to Joe Biden’s campaign site. Though it was clearly a ploy to associate the Democratic Party with antifa, right wingers seized upon the apparent conspiracy. Speaking about the Democrats that same day, Trump claimed that “in my book, it’s virtually part of their campaign, antifa.”

"Not only is there no evidence to support such allegations — which are more of an effort to associate liberalism with lawlessness than anything else — but Democratic leaders have routinely condemned antifa and political violence more broadly. "

Antifa is funded by liberal financiers like George Soros.​

Right-wing conspiracy theorists have alleged that egalitarian protest movements, such as Occupy Wall Street or the women’s marches, have been secretly funded for many years by liberal financiers like George Soros. Trump is among those who have accused Soros of funding antifa, while other conservatives, such as Rep. Ken Buck, have dog-whistled this anti-Semitic trope by asking in more general terms “who is funding these violent riots.”

There is no evidence that Soros or any other 1 percenter is bankrolling antifa groups."

Antifascists are the ‘real fascists.’​

Recently Barr described antifa as deploying “fascistic” tactics, and Donald Trump Jr. characterized the movement as having moved “to the book burning phase.” The Internet is awash with articles about how “antifa are the real fascists…

Indeed, antifascists and fascists have one thing in common: an illiberal disdain for the confines of mainstream politics. In every other way they are worlds apart. As opposed to their far-right adversaries, antifascists are feminist, anti-racist, anti-capitalists who seek to abolish prisons and police. "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...7071ac-f37b-11ea-bc45-e5d48ab44b9f_story.html
 
Regardless, Antifa is a Marxist outfit and Marxism is vehemently condemned by the Catholic Church in every fashion.
 
I would generally associate them more with anarchism. I am sure there are Marxists involved though.
 
Regardless, Antifa is a Marxist outfit and Marxism is vehemently condemned by the Catholic Church in every fashion.
It is more an idea than a group like the concept of feminism. Opposing fascism is not marxism nor is it condemned by the Church.

How can you simply state that antifa is a Marxist outfit? It is not really an outfit at all.
 
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It is more an idea than a group like the concept of feminism. Opposing fascism is not marxism nor is it condemned by the Church.
The beauty of our faith is that things are clear. We can try circumventing Church teaching all we want. All we must do to analyze the question of whether Antifa is diabolical or not is to just ask, how many antifa folks out there in the street are faithful Catholics attending the holy Sacrifice of the Mass? It is very clear.
 
All we must do to analyze the question of whether Antifa is diabolical or not is to just ask, how many antifa folks out there in the street are faithful Catholics attending the holy Sacrifice of the Mass? It is very clear.
How many protesters in Arab spring were faithful Catholics? Other than a few nuns, some scattered priests and Viola Liuzzo, how many civil rights activists can you say were faithful Catholics?

The lack of Catholics makes an organization ‘diabolical’? That is against modern theology and logic.
 
terrorism

[ˈterəˌrizəm]

NOUN
  1. the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
 
So you support Antifa antics? You support their violent actions against others?
 
Yeah, sure. Let’s look at what Antifa does and not what they say.
The first one I attended was on the University of Michigan campus. The protest was rather large, about 1,500 people. What I found interesting was that the first speaker pointed out that “allies from RevCom/ANTIFA” were present, just to provide “logistical support” including medical and security teams. The local RevCom leader got up and explained how to find the medics (Large red or green crosses) and explained that security was “circulating among the crowd” for safety. That was an ominous statement, as I’ll point out later.
I began moving through the crowd and quickly spotted several security team members, obviously watching the crowd for anyone who wasn’t clapping or cheering along. It’s important to note that these protests require 100% ideological agreement or they will approach you and become confrontational, so I made sure I was chanting along. I noticed almost immediately that despite the man who said he was the RevCom leader, a young man named Ethan, that I would later have many interactions with, was actually in charge. He is a security team leader within the ANTIFA organization.
Or maybe Antifa is not organized and this is all the work of the Revolutionary Communist Party…
 
So you support Antifa antics? You support their violent actions against others?
Maybe I get tired of people using the word as a bugaboo. I’m anti fascism – does that make me part of antifa? We had whole armies which were antifa in WWII.
 
LOL at anyone taking the time on a Catholic website to clear up misconceptions about a group like Antifa. Let’s start a topic called “NAMBLA - Fact vs Fiction” too while we are at it.
 
Yes, it will. Disgusting group promoting relations between men and boys. Sorry.
 
LOL at anyone taking the time on a Catholic website to clear up misconceptions about a group like Antifa.
How many allegations about antifa have you seen on this forum? Do you prefer just not knowing facts?

Please don’t hijack the issues of this thread.
 
Its tragic that some people in OR refused to leave their homes when the forest fires threatened because they believe antifa had set the fires so it could loot homes
All you need to know about people cowering from the antifa boogeyman is armed militia groups in Oregon blocked roads, delaying people trying to evacuate, because they were listen to radio scanners and thought authorities referring to “BLM” were talking about Black Lives Matter and not the Bureau of Land Management. It’s just tilting at windmills by incredibly misinformed people.
Myths include:

Antifa is a single organization
This one trips up conservatives because they can’t imagine any sort of political movement that isn’t hierarchical. People across the country independently organizing anti-police protests and mutual aid networks couldn’t possibly be doing it on their own, they must be getting marching orders from somewhere (every leftist protester must be cashing checks from George Soros) . It’s why so many threads in this forum are formatted as “[name of conservative pundit]: [outrage of the day]”; they’re not designed to distribute or discuss a news event, they’re how conservatives get told what to do and think about whatever topic.
 
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It’s why so many threads in this forum are formatted as “[name of conservative pundit]: [outrage of the day]”; they’re not designed to distribute or discuss a news event, they’re how conservatives get told what to do and think about whatever topic.
And this never happens on the left… oh, no 🥺
 
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…because they espouse Marxist positions/ideas.
As stated here, those who espouse antifa are probably closer to being anarchists than marxists.
I actually think, based on their tactics, that they are closer to fascist than communist, but that is picking at nits.
As for anarchists, we saw in Seattle that they are not anarchists. The first thing they did was set up authoritarian rules.
 
While there’s not an antifa connection, people have attempted to loot homes during the fires.

“ There are so many empty homes - we expected it," said Lalonde. “You knew it would happen, you knew someone would be doing that.”


I have a friend who owns a gun store in Milwaukie OR, he’s had customers come in and report having to chase off looters themselves.
 
We had whole armies which were antifa in WWII.
The men who made up those armies would be called fascists by today’s left wing. If nothing else the majority would be considered racist, sexist, etc. for their views regarding those issues.
 
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