Five myths about antifa

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And, as Johnson observed, there is no settling the point of precedency between a louse and a flea.
 
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From your link, September 11, 2020:
These food supply vehicles seem innocuous but serve to act as a pull for rioters to show up everyday.
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I was reading something by a soldier in Afghanistan. He said they noticed that when people started gathering, as for a protest, food trucks would show up and then the people would hang around for longer and eventually start rioting.

So the Army prohibited the food trucks and… no more rioting.

We should do that here.

BTW, Ngô also noted that the food trucks also help block the police, and that the trucks are funded through donations sent online.
 
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RhodesianSon said:
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who can come in, IDs I believe.
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Ironically I’m sure most of those people believe immigration enforcement is a human rights violation.
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Not surprisingly. Leftists do not believe in individual rights.
 
Anymore, I remember when progressives were all about letting the individual pursue whatever they thought would make them happy, through drugs, sex, etc. that’s since morphed into group identities supplanting the individual.
 
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Anymore, I remember when progressives were all about letting the individual pursue whatever they thought would make them happy, through drugs, sex, etc. that’s since morphed into group identities supplanting the individual.
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Which, of course, is implemented as intersectionality, a thoroughly racist model.
 
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The men who made up those armies would be called fascists by today’s left wing. If nothing else the majority would be considered racist, sexist, etc. for their views regarding those issues.
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My father and two of his younger brothers?

To all: Please hold off on the buzzwords and unverified statements. Its bad enough that the thread has been sidetracked, but to have claptrap about what ‘they always do’ gets us no further forward.
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While there’s not an antifa connection, people have attempted to loot homes during the fires.
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The National Guard had to be called out due to looting after an earthquake on the west coast. That was San Francisco in 1906.
 
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Whole lot of strawmans in your retorts
Nepperhan said:
Antifa masterminds violence at Black Lives Matter protests.
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FACT: Antifa members have frequently initiated violence at BLM protests
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Antifa is affiliated with the Democratic Party.
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Yea, I expect their member voting record is 99% democratic
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Antifa is funded by liberal financiers like George Soros.
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The AG is investigating, let’s see the results. They are very political and certainly aren’t funded by conservative groups and financiers.
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Antifascists are the ‘real fascists.’
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see below

 
Nepperhan said:
My father and two of his younger brothers?
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Quite possibly. I know for example my grandfather, who fought in WWI and WWII was an extremely racist man, and definitely held opinions that would be considered sexist today. And in fact before the war he had fascist sympathies, but he still signed up and fought for King and country as was his duty. Most white men of that era in western countries were. There are always exceptions though I suppose.

ETA: please don’t take this as an accusation against your father or uncles, I’m speaking in broad terms as obviously I didn’t know them and am just making generalizations based on the era.
 
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Theo520 said:
Whole lot of strawmans in your retorts
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I’d like some verification of your claims. If you have any. A site stating that antifa and fascism are the same seems more Humpty Dumpty than verification.

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.”
 
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RhodesianSon said:
please don’t take this as an accusation against your father or uncles, I’m speaking in broad terms as obviously I didn’t know them and am just making generalizations based on the era.
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I don’t think racism caused men with rifles to march across Europe. You can look at men throughout the ages through a lens of current society and criticize them. That’s beside the point.

The question was anti-fascism.
 
Yea, I expect their member voting record is 99% democratic
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I think those that do vote definitely vote for the Democrat Party, but a lot of them probably don’t vote. Anarchists often don’t on principle.
 
Before WWII fascism wasn’t the default bogeyman. FDR courted fascist ideas pretty heavily. It was an experiment a lot of leaders picked from. I know this is a Cato link you’ll probably be more likely to write it off based on that but I think the parallels they draw are at least worth reading.

And I’m not saying FDR was a fascist, but he did pretty plainly agree with state control of the economy with ownership still being in private hands.

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/hitler-mussolini-roosevelt
 
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Before WWII fascism wasn’t the default bogeyman.
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You disagree with the accepted definition of fascism so your statements as to ‘who supported what and thereby consequently supported fascism’ have the tone of inaccuracy.
 
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