Flaws in Islam

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Can someone tell me the flaws in Islam. Please note I am looking for facts and not opinions so can you please list your sources.
According to muslims, or islam, its the third follow up of a religion ie first came Judaism, than came Christianity and finally came islam.

But they have no authentic references to quote their hold. ie For Christianity, we have all references in OT, which provide clues and NT is full of OT texts. But islam has nothing not a single quote either to OT or NT, except names of the Prophets.

They also dont accept Jesus’s divinity.

They claim the God to be a liar as for them the crucification is a big hoax ie God at the last moment switched someone else to be crucified.

They also claim that the Holy Bible is a corrupted book, meaning nothing from there is true and have no authentic reference neither in quran or anywhere where its proved to be so or where the original Holy Bible is as according to them quran is the direct revelation from allah and allah does not know where it is 🙂

They have no authentic proof as to why Jesus a prophet according to them, was given a Miraculous birth, and the only answer you will ever get to this question is that Adam was more miracelous. ie take you on a wild goose chase.
 
from the responding of christians here
is that mean that the biggist flaws in islam is that it isn’t christianity !!!
 
“…Muslims ruled Spain for over 800 years…”
Spain was invaded by Muslims (Moors from Africa?). The Christians were there first. You make your side of it sound so peaceful.
Much later on, a Muslim army reached the gates of Vienna, before being driven back. It wasn`t a peace crusade!

No forced conversions?
What about captured Soviet soldiers in Afghanistan in the 1980s. In some areas, it was “convert” or be beheaded.

The Crusades?
To free the sacred shrines.

In his Letter to the Galatians, St. Paul says: “But even if we, or an angel from Heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to rhat which we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone is preaching to a gospel contrary to that which you have received, let him be accursed.” (Galiatians 1:8,9). RSV. Strong words!
“Even if an entity claiming to be the angel Gabriel …”
 
P.S. There are many internet sites which try to critique Islam. I’m not sure if it helps to do that on the Catholic forum as it is likely to upset Muslims with a genuine interest in Christianity.
Thank you, I myself am learning of the Christian faith. Now back to your question ( go easy on me I’m only 15) I don’t know how Muslims came to dominate much part of the non-muslim world but give me a week and I will have an answer for you.

Mo
 
No forced conversions?
What about captured Soviet soldiers in Afghanistan in the 1980s. In some areas, it was “convert” or be beheaded.
There will always be black sheep in the herd especially one as big as the Muslim community. Those men thought they would get into heaven by converting non-muslims but the truth is given in this quote from the Quran:

“Invite all to the way of your Lord, with wisdom and beautiful preaching, and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious!”

As you can see these men were poorly sourced. Also the Quran is written in arabic, so you see the afghan men have a problem reading.

Finally answer me this didn’t the Soviets invade Afghanistan? or am I just crazy?.

Mo
 
Dude! I just gave you four credible, secular sources refuting what you said in the first post. You think that by repeating yourself I might forget?
XD OH MAN! That is priceless. I’m sorry, but it is.

I’ve seen people repeat arguments in the past, but they were usually kind enough to reword it a little bit. But I have never seen any one just post the exact same thing as before. Usually repeating something shows a person has no argument…what does repeating the exact same thing say?
from the responding of christians here
is that mean that the biggist flaws in islam is that it isn’t christianity !!!
I don’t think anyone has used an ad hominem.

I will say, however, that the greatest flaw in Islam is it not Christocentric. 🙂
 
XD OH MAN! That is priceless. I’m sorry, but it is.

I’ve seen people repeat arguments in the past, but they were usually kind enough to reword it a little bit. But I have never seen any one just post the exact same thing as before. Usually repeating something shows a person has no argument…what does repeating the exact same thing say?

I don’t think anyone has used an ad hominem.

I will say, however, that the greatest flaw in Islam is it not Christocentric. 🙂
I posted it again because there were some spelling mistakes and I wrote 20% as 205.

Mo
 
In his Letter to the Galatians, St. Paul says: “But even if we, or an angel from Heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone is preaching to a gospel contrary to that which you have received, let him be accursed.” (Galiatians 1:8,9). RSV. Strong words!
“Even if an entity claiming to be the angel Gabriel …”
You’re kidding right? Not another generic argument trying to dissaprove Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) rightful place as a Prophet.
Well you think that the religion preaching the evil gospel to be Islam well it isn’t that religion is a now dead one called Yazidism. It originated a few hundred years after Christianity and a few hundred before Islam, this is the religion that St.Paul talks about.

Mo
 
You’re kidding right? Not another generic argument trying to dissaprove Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) rightful place as a Prophet.
Well you think that the religion preaching the evil gospel to be Islam well it isn’t that religion is a now dead one called Yazidism. It originated a few hundred years after Christianity and a few hundred before Islam, this is the religion that St.Paul talks about.
:confused: What? Where are you deriving that conclusion?

Paul is speaking to the Galatians about false gospels being given to them, and then speaks about false gospels in general. Let’s look at it in the fullest of context:

I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. [Galatians 1:6-9; ESV]

And yes, Mohammad did preach a gospel contrary to that given by Christ, because his message denies several things affirmed by Christ and His apostles.
  • Christ is not divine (S. 5:116)
  • Christ was not crucified, let alone died on the cross or was resurrected (S. 4:157)
  • The Trinity is a lie (S. 5:73)
And he receives it from a supposed angel, but Paul also warns against that:

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. [2 Corinthians 11:13-14]

This is but a sampling of why Christians do not believe Islam.
 
**You’re kidding right? **

Not another generic argument trying to dissaprove Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) rightful place as a Prophet.

Well you think that the religion preaching the evil gospel to be Islam well it isn’t that religion is a now dead one called Yazidism. It originated a few hundred years after Christianity and a few hundred before Islam, this is the religion that St.Paul talks about.

Mo
There is **no **“kidding” when we quote our Bible!
 
sigh Jakasaki, you just HAD to post THAT, creating a whole new page and burying my response? 😛

I’m reposting it here simply so it doesn’t get missed.
You’re kidding right? Not another generic argument trying to dissaprove Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) rightful place as a Prophet.
Well you think that the religion preaching the evil gospel to be Islam well it isn’t that religion is a now dead one called Yazidism. It originated a few hundred years after Christianity and a few hundred before Islam, this is the religion that St.Paul talks about.
 
Thank you, I myself am learning of the Christian faith. Now back to your question ( go easy on me I’m only 15) I don’t know how Muslims came to dominate much part of the non-muslim world but give me a week and I will have an answer for you.

Mo
I think it’s an important question, but take your time if you like Mo, there is no need to hurry, or even to post an answer back here at all.

There are lots of complex questions that may take years of study and prolonged considering from different peoples viewpoints and histories.
 
Firstly I would like to give all of you a big shout as to how history is written. History is written by the survivors, the progressors, the powerful. For example during the First Crusade Pope Urban II changed the comandment in the bible “Thou shalt not kill” to “Thou shalt not kill Christians”, his reason being was Jesus apparently said the latter but those who wrote the bible A) Misinterpreted the message, or B) Jesus did not say such a thing(“Thou shalt not kill Christians”. People can easily change history to what best suits them, and so have the Christians changed the Islamic history to better suit themselves to gain power. As that is all Catholicism is, a power game that’s aim was controlling society for their personal wealth?

Secondly, before you criticize other religions of their flaws, I think it would be best to start at your own. Let me give you a hand on this one:

One of the Seven Deadly sins is ‘Envy’, Envy being a synonym for Jealousy. The fifth commandment is “Do not worship other gods, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God.” Now if your god is a jealous god, don’t you think it is rather cruel and hypocritical that your god doesn’t follow his own rules. We don’t put up with politicians that do as such, so why should we put up with your god; that is if your god is real.

Our second most greatest human instinct, after self-preservation, is the preservation of our race, otherwise known as lust. We are programmed to desire such instincts for the good of our race. Thus, such a indulgence is almost irresistible to most of us, deeming all of us as sinners, in turn this gains the Catholic church wealth. What did people do before marriage was invented? Did they all burn in the 8th Icy ring of hell due to allowing our race to survive?

Alexander VI had four, and possibly five, children by his long time mistress Vannozza dei Cattani a courtesan of the House of Candia (while she was married to Domenico da Rignano): Cesare, Juan Borgia, and Lucrezia. Then, Goffredo. How is it that your own superiors, and mentors, do not follow their own rules?

According to Catholicism if you do not receive your ‘Last Rights’ you are banished to purgatory/limbo, considering Jesus never received his ‘Last Rights’ would that not mean he is in Purgatory? If he is then I refuse to worship a god whos son is in hell, if not then it is very selective of your god!

Another issue is Jews. If you look at part of Catholicism, it is believed that in order to indulge in the afterlife we must depend ourselves on symbolically eating and drinking the flesh and blood of a zombie Jew. Catholics regarded Jews as Devils in ancient times, theoretically that means you are consuming the blood and flesh of a Devil, which is meant to get you where…Heaven?

If your Religion is truthful, and is not the greatest goof of the century. Then I would rather reign in hell then serve in heaven, as your lord is far from righteous!

Thank-you consider what I have said,

Nikolai Claud Umashev
Email: neoknick@hotmail.com

" Let me give you a little inside information about God. God likes to watch. He’s a prankster. Think about it. He gives man instincts. He gives you this extraordinary gift, and then what does He do, I swear for His own amusement, his own private, cosmic gag reel, He sets the rules in opposition. It’s the goof of all time. Look but don’t touch. Touch, but don’t taste. Taste, don’t swallow. Ahaha. And while you’re jumpin’ from one foot to the next, what is he doing? He’s laughin’ His sick, *in’ *** off! He’s a tight-! He’s a SADIST! He’s an absentee landlord! Worship that? NEVER! " - John Milton, The Devils Advocate.
 
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