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stevegravy
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Didn’t say they were, just don’t apologize the perpetually offended.
Florida's GOP gubernatorial nominee says a vote for his black opponent would 'monkey this up'
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Victoria33
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Not at all.
Why does the Democratic party hold up Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood up in such high esteem? Why are black children 5 times more likely than white children to be aborted? Her writings are thought by many to be racist. Black pro-lifers such as Reverend Childress says this is even worse than the Klan. Read any black pro-life website and they will tell you this.
Why are there examples of Democratically run cities that are so problematic? Baltimore? Detroit?
And plenty of modern statements that are racist can be found on the Democratic party, especially anti-Semitic statements.
You’re argument too, has to be said is a lazy argument, anyone can say “roles are reversed now”, you provided no back up at all.
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7_Sorrows
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Don’t forget Chicago as an example of a problematic Democratic run city!dvdjs:
Not at all.
Why does the Democratic party hold up Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood up in such high esteem? Why are black children 5 times more likely than white children to be aborted? Her writings are thought by many to be racist. Black pro-lifers such as Reverend Childress says this is even worse than the Klan. Read any black pro-life website and they will tell you this.
Why are there examples of Democratically run cities that are so problematic? Baltimore? Detroit?
And plenty of modern statements that are racist can be found on the Democratic party, especially anti-Semitic statements.
You’re argument too, has to be said is a lazy argument, anyone can say “roles are reversed now”, you provided no back up at all.
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Victoria33
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As long as the Democratic party maintains Planned Parenthood, upholds Margaret Sanger and sees the pro-choice movement as one of their main special interests, I don’t think anything has changed. Anyone can confirm this by going to any black pro-life website where they have her quotes and report on stats such as black children being 5 times, maybe only 3 times more likely to be aborted than a white child.
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Victoria33
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Nobody should forget that this headline was originally, some made-up headline and that has to be seen as likely being deceptive on this board and if it was intentionally that way, very prejudicial. Now the original story is being seen as a joke, liberal media playing the race card.
Also, I"m sorry, I follow Catholic teaching. If this is about one’s own made philosophy or that of the left, count me out of further discussion. Non-negotiable, life begins at conception. Not necessarily what you or others think.
Also, I"m sorry, I follow Catholic teaching. If this is about one’s own made philosophy or that of the left, count me out of further discussion. Non-negotiable, life begins at conception. Not necessarily what you or others think.
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dvdjs
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The voting demographic patterns speak for themselves.
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abucs
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This is silly. Because we don’t have slavery today is the conservative position today one of anti-slavery and the Progressive one of slavery?
Your definitions are intentionally out of whack to produce the result you want.
Democrats at the time wanted slavery to be extended to the western territories.
The standard of the western territories was no slavery. By that logic you have to admit the people fighting against slavery being introduced to the western territories were conservatives which makes a mockery of your definitions.
Do we say the Democrats in the western territories were Progressives because they wanted slavery introduced into an area that was traditionally non slavery?
Let’s get rid of all the mental gymnastics that tries to paint conservatives as being somehow pro slavery. That is a big part of the anger with what we see as the insanity of Left wing thinking.
Lets just be honest. The Republicans were the ones fighting against slavery and for the civil and voting rights of blacks. That has never changed. What has changed is the Democrats, belatedly coming on board and then shifting the goalposts to what rights of blacks should mean in the service of victim politics.
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F_Marturana
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I’ve never seen @LeafByNiggle identify as pro choice.
Are you aware of how abortion was legalized in New York? What party spearheaded the legalization?
Are you aware of how abortion was legalized in New York? What party spearheaded the legalization?
LeafByNiggle
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Exactly! And Democrat and Republican today is not what it was 150 years ago, which is why it is so strange to see today’s parties being evaluated by what the parties that shared those names 150 years ago were like.
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Victoria33
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So does Johnson’s welfare program.
So does the Trump administration’s delivering the lowest black unemployment figures speak for themselves.
So does the high crime rate in cities run by Democrats.
Lazy argument. You can’t answer the question and it is no problem at all to point out how the Democratic party may be anti-Catholic; as the Klan was.
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Victoria33
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So, blacks have historically low unemployment under Trump.
And again, if one is just dismissing Catholic teaching about the right to life, their statements as well should be dismissed.
The DNC still appears very anti-Catholic in ways, such as trying to make the Little Sisters pay for contraception. If one is not Catholic on this forum, I don’t see why this is even worthy of discussion.
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Inisfallen
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Does the historically low crime rate in cities likr New York, run by Democrats, speak for itself?
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Victoria33
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I think those speaking up for the Democrat party but not addressing the right to life and blacks aborting their own at 3 to 5 times higher than whites speaks for itself? Don’t you?
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Inisfallen
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Okay, I get it. You’re going to dodge the question.
Hey, you brought it up, but if you’re going to deflect, go right ahead.
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Victoria33
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This is a Catholic forum, if one just basically rejects Catholic teaching as the Democrat party does on a number of issues, I see no reason to further discuss.
The old Klan, Democrats , were largely anti-Catholic.
Oh, and by the way, those pictures you see of lynchings? Those are mainly Democrats, if one says, roles have reversed. Lynchings have not been around really for 50, 60 years. So that is on the Democrats, maybe mainly the Dixiecrats but Democrats all the same. Sorry. Klan had a desk at the Democrat convention at least untill 1964 or 1960.
The old Klan, Democrats , were largely anti-Catholic.
Oh, and by the way, those pictures you see of lynchings? Those are mainly Democrats, if one says, roles have reversed. Lynchings have not been around really for 50, 60 years. So that is on the Democrats, maybe mainly the Dixiecrats but Democrats all the same. Sorry. Klan had a desk at the Democrat convention at least untill 1964 or 1960.
LeafByNiggle
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That describes every political party ever.dvdjs:
The Democratic Party is and always has been about raw political power and have opportunistically been on the side that could leverage votes…JonNC:
But in the present day the situation is reversed. And the current voting patterns reflect that present reality.
One who is more sympathetic to the Democratic party would say this shows that Democrats today are better at representing people who live in deplorable conditions, whereas Republicans are better at representing people who are living more comfortably.
LeafByNiggle
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Zero evidence only if you ignore history.LeafByNiggle:
It makes a nice narrative for current Democrats. The problem is that there is virtually zero evidence for it being true.
LeafByNiggle
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They are the only ones who admit to recognizing them.AuldP:
Why are Democrats the only people who can hear them?
LeafByNiggle
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Some of her writings were definitely racist. And Margaret Sanger is not held in such high esteem by Democrats in everything she wrote.dvdjs:
Not at all.
Why does the Democratic party hold up Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood up in such high esteem? Why are black children 5 times more likely than white children to be aborted? Her writings are thought by many to be racist.
As I explained earlier, high population density cities tend to have problems that rural populations do not have. And Democrats appear to be better at representing people with those problems.
No, there aren’t. Not at the Party Platform level. And it is not common at the grass roots level either.
Here is your backup.
LeafByNiggle
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Can you show me an example of a Republican run city of similar population density that is not problematic?
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