Florida's GOP gubernatorial nominee says a vote for his black opponent would 'monkey this up'

[HarryStotle]

On the contrary, I am very much interested in the truth rather than some made up stuff about why this profess got sacked. I realize that it is a non-trivial matter to fire a tenured professor. Moreover your insinuation that I am lying is really bad form to say the very least.

I never claimed you were lying, merely that you aren’t sufficiently informed on the subject to venture a well-considered opinion or judgement, so posting an article that, itself, carries a great deal of baggage and large sackfuls of innuendo isn’t exactly helpful.

Edit: It seems several posts have disappeared into the ether, so the above may be completely meaningless without the context. I imagine this post will disappear, as well.

Regarding Lindsay Shepherd…

 

[LeafByNiggle]

LeafByNiggle:

HarryStotle:

LeafByNiggle:

There are several well-respected college certification boards that rate colleges and universities. Which one has certified Prager U?

And there are a growing number of colleges and universities, previously accredited by those “well-respected” certification boards, that will lose all respect from thoughtful, intelligent, people because of what they have become.

So,…,no accreditation means not a university.

Not an authority on anything, really.

So the fact that many of the videos express the ideas and work of accredited university professors still doesn’t make them authoritative?

Interesting view, Leaf.

You aren’t actually claiming that it is the university administrative bodies which are the authorities on matters that are important to know, but the professors themselves and their work carry no weight?

By implication, your claim seems to be that only universities are “authorities on anything, really.”

What about independent scholars, researchers, authors, etc., etc.?

All are NOT “authorities on anything, really?”

Something seems very amiss with your position.

The phrase, “You have gone overboard!” seems quite appropriate.

Just out of interest, here is a very brief list of some of the contributors to PragerU, along with their level of education and accredited university or faculty where they currently teach or do research

Allan Dershowitz - PhD, Harvard University
Carol Swain - PhD, Vanderbilt
Jordan Peterson - PhD, University of Toronto
Burt Folsum - PhD, Hillsdale College
Anthony Esolen - PhD, Thomas More College
Christina Hoff Sommers - PhD, American Enterprise Institute
Heather MacDonald - PhD, Manhatten Institute

I could go on, and add to that a who’s who listing of well-known politicians, journalists, artists, professional writers, etc., such as Douglas Murray, Nigel Farage, Ayan Hirsi Ali, to name just a few.

Not authorities on anything? Really?

Not in any way that makes Prager a University. Let’s take Heather MacDonald. She has never held a teaching position in a college. Sure, she is famous, but does hosting her videos make Prager a University?

These are interesting people to listen to, but only in the same way that Donald Trump, Steven Colbert, Steve Bannon, Nancy Pelosi, and other famous people are interesting to listen to. And your touting the authority of journalists is quite amusing too. Let’s give Bob Woodward the same respect that you want me to give to Burt Folsum. After all, they both have credentials that you say qualifies them to be authorities.

 

[Inisfallen]

Dennis Prager can obviously call his videos anything he wants.

But at the end of the day, he’s a guy who makes YouTube videos. You may find them insightful and thoughtful and informative, but that doesn’t mean they add up to a university.

Prager U doesn’t have classes, do research, publish journals, grant degrees, have a faculty, advise students, or any of the myriad other things a university does.

I don’t know why it’s important to anyone that it be considered to be a university. It’s not. So what? That isn’t saying Prager doesn’t (or does) make great videos that have instructive value.

If Prager U is a university, then so is Jay Leno’s Garage.

 

[HarryStotle]

Not in any way that makes Prager a University. Let’s take Heather MacDonald. She has never held a teaching position in a college. Sure, she is famous, but does hosting her videos make Prager a University?

Look, the claim of yours that I was addressing was this one.

Not an authority on anything, really.

Clearly, PragerU is not an accredited university, even my cat knows that.

If you think I was claiming otherwise, give your head a shake.

You bundled your statement that it is not a university with the claim that it is “not authoritative on anything, really.”

You can argue THAT until the cows come home, but you know that it is as nonsensical as claiming the university professors whose work is featured on PragerU are also not “authoritative on anything.”

So which university professors are “authoritative?”

Do you want us to permit you to be the accrediting body, now?

Heather MacDonald’s credentials:

B.A. in English, Yale University
M.A. in English, Cambridge University
J.D., Stanford University Law School

Seems qualified to venture an informed opinion, no?

What are yours?

Her bio:

Heather Mac Donald is the Thomas W. Smith Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, a contributing editor of City Journal , and a New York Times bestselling author. She is a recipient of the 2005 Bradley Prize. Mac Donald’s work at City Journal has covered a range of topics, including higher education, immigration, policing, homelessness and homeless advocacy, criminal-justice reform, and race relations. Her writing has appeared in the Wall Street Journal , Washington Post , New York Times , Los Angeles Times , The New Republic , and The New Criterion . Mac Donald’s newest book, The Diversity Delusion: How Race and Gender Pandering Corrupt the University and Undermine Our Culture (2018), argues that toxic ideas first spread by higher education have undermined humanistic values, fueled intolerance, and widened divisions in our larger culture.

Your bio?

Ms. MacDonald’s work seems to provide her with just a bit of authority, no?

Your credentials to castigate or minimize or challenge her work would be what, exactly?

 

[HarryStotle]

Dennis Prager can obviously call his videos anything he wants.

But at the end of the day, he’s a guy who makes YouTube videos. You may find them insightful and thoughtful and informative, but that doesn’t mean they add up to a university.

Prager U doesn’t have classes, do research, publish journals, grant degrees, have a faculty, advise students, or any of the myriad other things a university does.

I don’t know why it’s important to anyone that it be considered to be a university. It’s not. So what? That isn’t saying Prager doesn’t (or does) make great videos that have instructive value.

Point me to a line where I claimed they were a bona fide or accredited university.

Why are you seriously arguing that they aren’t?

Oh, wait, just to be clear, in case there is some confusion…

… Hamburger University is also not a real university.

And neither is EveRy University.

 

[Inisfallen]

I posted what I thought was a pretty reasonable, very much not inflammatory post. Not, by the way, addressed to you, or criticizing anything you said. I said nothing critical about Dennis Prager, or any of his fellow YouTube posters (i.e., authors of videos under the “Prager U” banner).

That’s all. I’m not “arguing” anything. Just commenting, in a thread, as one does on an internet forum.

 

[HarryStotle]

I posted what I thought was a pretty reasonable, very much not inflammatory post. Not, by the way, addressed to you, or criticizing anything you said. I said nothing critical about Dennis Prager, or any of his fellow YouTube posters (i.e., authors of videos under the “Prager U” banner).

That’s all. I’m not “arguing” anything. Just commenting, in a thread, as one does on an internet forum.

Yeah, you are right.

It was your Wile E. Coyote avatar that triggered me.

I expected an anvil or something to drop on my head.

Sorry.

Beep Beep.

 

[Inisfallen]

It was your Wile E. Coyote avatar that triggered me.

Wile E. never gives up. He’s my hero.