Fmr. Komen Foundation insider’s new book will expose ‘Planned Bullyhood’

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I will post this, from our local pro-life coalition. This is Planned Parenthood’s stock in trade. LIES AND MORE LIES. Thank God, this baby is alive today, because someone was praying in front of Planned Parenthood.

*Yesterday, just minutes before her abortion she decided to come into our mobile crisis pregnancy center because she was struggling with wondering if her unborn child would feel pain during the abortion.

She had gone to Planned Parenthood last week for her ultrasound and of course they told her “the fetus” would not feel any pain, in fact when they turned on the fetal heartbeat they told her to cover her ears.

But as she drove into Planned Parenthood’s parking lot yesterday she saw a woman standing on the street praying and she couldn’t shake that image from her mind. She decided to pay our mobile clinic a visit.

She was quite shocked to see her baby jumping and moving around with arms, legs, a body and head because the ultrasound picture Planned Parenthood gave her last week showed just a circle. They also told her that the “fetus” was not moving when she asked.

Through the Grace of God and much tears that turned to relief and tears of joy she decided to continue her pregnancy!

If our mobile clinic had not been at Planned Parenthood yesterday this unborn child could very well have been aborted. We thank God everyday for the opportunity to be there, please help us to be able to stay!*
 
BlueEyedLady said:
Women go in to PP wanting an abortion. Pregnant women do not go there to decide the morality of it. And most women do not want to see ultrasounds or hear heartbeats. PP doesn’t lie. These women are not stupid, they know what they want when they go in. Let’s stop treating women like confused children and start acknowledging that they have been hearing both sides of the debate their entire lives and they are still choosing abortion. They have seen the pictures, heard the vile rhetoric, and still don’t want to be pregnant. Whether you agree with the choice or not let’s at least give women the dignity of owning their choices.

Like many other women if I got pregnant my first call would be to my fiance, my second would be to PP. I don’t need PP to show me ultrasounds or have me listen to a heartbeat. I’m not paying for a morality lesson, just the medical procedure that the SCOTUS says I’m entitled to.
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And it would haunt you for the rest of life.
 
estesbob said:
And it would haunt you for the rest of life.
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Actually only a very small percentage of people regret their abortions, and there are in fact many that are grateful for them. And let’s say it did haunt me (I highly doubt it would) then that’s a consequence of my choice, but it is my choice. No one is lying to me, no one is coercing me, and I’ve been hearing the pro-life side for well over two decades now. If it’s a decision that I ever have to make I at least want the dignity of having it acknowledged that I made it. And if someone is angry about it they need to be angry at me, because PP won’t be making the decision, I will.
 
BlueEyedLady said:
Actually only a very small percentage of people regret their abortions, and there are in fact many that are grateful for them. And let’s say it did haunt me (I highly doubt it would) then that’s a consequence of my choice, but it is my choice. No one is lying to me, no one is coercing me, and I’ve been hearing the pro-life side for well over two decades now. If it’s a decision that I ever have to make I at least want the dignity of having it acknowledged that I made it. And if someone is angry about it they need to be angry at me, because PP won’t be making the decision, I will.
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I spent 5 years counseling in a CPC. I spoke to a multitude of post abortive women and men. I traveled the country attempting seminars and othe Clinics. What you say is simply not true
 
BlueEyedLady said:
Women go in to PP wanting an abortion. Pregnant women do not go there to decide the morality of it. And most women do not want to see ultrasounds or hear heartbeats. PP doesn’t lie. These women are not stupid, they know what they want when they go in. Let’s stop treating women like confused children and start acknowledging that they have been hearing both sides of the debate their entire lives and they are still choosing abortion. They have seen the pictures, heard the vile rhetoric, and still don’t want to be pregnant. Whether you agree with the choice or not let’s at least give women the dignity of owning their choices.

Like many other women if I got pregnant my first call would be to my fiance, my second would be to PP. I don’t need PP to show me ultrasounds or have me listen to a heartbeat. I’m not paying for a morality lesson, just the medical procedure that the SCOTUS says I’m entitled to.
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I come to this forum to get away from this mindset. “a medical procedure I’m entitled to,not a morality lesson”. If you post something like this on a religious board, sorry to say, you are setting yourself up for a morality lesson. Morality lessons are why I’m here. Both give and take.

I have been listening to the debates my whole life as well, and after reading about fetal development, and seeing the remains of early miscarried babies during a six year stent as an emergency room nurse, as well as early second trimester babies, I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone could have your viewpoint. But there is a debate that has come up for me, and that is the effect on health care workers doing second trimester abortions. You say that most women don’t regret their abortions. Let’s see how health care providers feel providing them:

life.org.nz/abortion/aboutabortion/abortioncontroversy7/Default.htm

The site may seem to have a pro-life bias, but the reality is that the bottom of this page is actually summing up studies done by pro choice to abort folks. I have the study in 1970’s which was presented to Planned Parenthood printed out in full, but now somehow the link is gone, and the whole thing has disappeared.

Here is something more recent lib.tcu.edu/staff/bellinger/abortion/Harris.pdf

the truth of the matter is that the uterus was not designed to expel it’s contents during the second trimester. That makes providing one problematic – and the preferred method is to dismember the unborn baby in pieces, and pull the body parts through the cervix one and a time. the head doesn’t fit, so the skull has to be crushed. The provider might provide one bit of mercy, and inject something into the heart of the unborn child to kill it before dismembering or he or she might not. Then the child is reassembled like a puzzle, so the abortion provider can make sure s/he “got it all”…and even though the mother might not feel guilt over this (because no one shows her the pieces) the provider does not remain unaffected and “relieved”. The provider and staff may well experience dissociation, disengaging from themselves, problems with their relationships, nightmares, etc. And they don’t have to just experience it once, but over and over again. If you want to see a human already born experiencing scientifically proven pain over this procedure, look no further than the pro choice to abort people providing it.

There are other anecdotal stories of providers deciding their conscience got in the way, and just couldn’t do it any more. The author of the “Silent Scream” is one of them, and although you might not believe the movie, his personal story is unforgettable. Once a baby gets to the point of development where it has body arms and legs, between 8-10 weeks, it is harder and harder for the person removing it to ignore. And in case he tries to forget, he has to do it again and again, until burned into his brain, and there is no question…

In one of the studies, a staff member was quoted as saying she was starting to resent women having second trimester abortions that were cavalier about it, because they didn’t seem to care about how much the abortion was costing her, emotionally. Another person who was put in charge of reassembling little bodies and measuring had to be relieved because of nightmares.

Your post is completely inhumane, on many levels.
 
I worked in the office of an OB-GYN who started doing abortions when he got a larger office. I didn’t know what was going on but I knew the nurses would cry and be very upset on certain days. After one of them quit, they finally told me he was doing abortions and yes, they had to examine the extractions to be sure all the parts were there. I quit too.
 
but back to the original topic, as much as I despise PP, the Komen foundation is in no position to cast stones on being a bully.

huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/07/komen-foundation-charities-cure_n_793176.html

They think they own the words “for the cure” and the color pink, and sue any other charity that tries to use the words for fundraising. I am very wary of them. They have gone from a charity to a corporation. I don’t give them anything, and they have no place calling PP a bully, given the way they act towards other charities. They are not the only ones needing to raise money.
 
BlueEyedLady said:
Actually only a very small percentage of people regret their abortions, and there are in fact many that are grateful for them. And let’s say it did haunt me (I highly doubt it would) then that’s a consequence of my choice, but it is my choice. No one is lying to me, no one is coercing me, and I’ve been hearing the pro-life side for well over two decades now. If it’s a decision that I ever have to make I at least want the dignity of having it acknowledged that I made it. And if someone is angry about it they need to be angry at me, because PP won’t be making the decision, I will.
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drhern.com/pdfs/staffrx.pdf –

found what I was looking for – you could possibly be paying for this abortion with a piece of someone else’s soul – and that does not include the soul of the unborn child, returned to God.
 
Gwendolen said:
drhern.com/pdfs/staffrx.pdf –

found what I was looking for – you could possibly be paying for this abortion with a piece of someone else’s soul – and that does not include the soul of the unborn child, returned to God.
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And yet, the study states that the senior author has done more than 650 abortions by D&E. So, he understands that the procedure causes distress in the people who perform it and assist, and yet he still does it…deal with the devil, anyone?

I find it sad that the baby’s parts are referred to as “tissue,” just as Planned Parenthood does. Yes, I know that “tissue” is a medical term, so not inaccurate, but it distances from the actuality that this is a baby’s arm, a baby’s hand, the baby’s torso, the baby’s head.
 
TheRealJuliane said:
And yet, the study states that the senior author has done more than 650 abortions by D&E. So, he understands that the procedure causes distress in the people who perform it and assist, and yet he still does it…deal with the devil, anyone?

I find it sad that the baby’s parts are referred to as “tissue,” just as Planned Parenthood does. Yes, I know that “tissue” is a medical term, so not inaccurate, but it distances from the actuality that this is a baby’s arm, a baby’s hand, the baby’s torso, the baby’s head.
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I know, I know…but pro choice to abort people frequently suggest that any negative press about abortion and it’s harmful psychological effects are just make up and fabricated by pro-life people to “take away a woman’s right to choose”.

I thought such a person might think twice since the author of this paper quite plainly had no such agenda. He has no plans to try to make any abortion illegal. He voiced no opinion that providers should stop offering them, including himself. Therefore his evidence that abortions done during this time frame (not the most common time to get one, but still 10 of thousands are performed every year, many for social reasons, or for abnormalities where a person could still live a happy life, such as Down’s syndrome) are psychological harmful to the people who are performing or assisting with them is particularly compelling.

I found the statement, yeah, I could probably have an abortion with no guilt, just relief very disturbing. So instead of paying the emotional price for this sin, just pass it off to someone else!

After I established care with my OB for my first pregnancy, I found out she was an abortionist as well…I could have switched, but for some reason I didn’t …she did save my daughter’s life during the delivery — she was quite adept at forcefully removing a fetus from the womb, which in this case was in our favor, as our daughter’s heart had pretty much stopped. I watched her give up her OB practice, and only do gyn. Then she stopped practicing altogether, and sent us all a letter saying she was leaving to find herself, type of thing. I know she really at one time at least thought she was helping women, (very kind in many ways) the last time I saw her, she looked very battleworn. I never asked, but always wondered – I do pray for her. May God have mercy on her, the babies never born, and the mothers who signed the consent forms.

For my final pregnancy, I had a high risk OB, and when it came down to pre-natal testing, I told him it didn’t matter, I wasn’t aborting. He looked actually angry, and said something to the effect of “well, for the vast majority of problems, I wouldn’t do an abortion anyway”. Again, God knows the pain he has endured and the choices he has had to make to provide care for high risk pregnancies in his decades of practice. People are paying silently and dearly for a “woman’s right to choose”.
 
Gwendolen said:
I know, I know…but pro choice to abort people frequently suggest that any negative press about abortion and it’s harmful psychological effects are just make up and fabricated by pro-life people to “take away a woman’s right to choose”.

**I thought such a person might think twice since the author of this paper quite plainly had no such agenda. He has no plans to try to make any abortion illegal. He voiced no opinion that providers should stop offering them, including himself. Therefore his evidence that abortions done during this time frame (not the most common time to get one, but still 10 of thousands are performed every year, many for social reasons, or for abnormalities where a person could still live a happy life, such as Down’s syndrome) are psychological harmful to the people who are performing or assisting with them is particularly compelling.
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I found the statement, yeah, I could probably have an abortion with no guilt, just relief very disturbing. So instead of paying the emotional price for this sin, just pass it off to someone else!

After I established care with my OB for my first pregnancy, I found out she was an abortionist as well…I could have switched, but for some reason I didn’t …she did save my daughter’s life during the delivery — she was quite adept at forcefully removing a fetus from the womb, which in this case was in our favor, as our daughter’s heart had pretty much stopped. I watched her give up her OB practice, and only do gyn. Then she stopped practicing altogether, and sent us all a letter saying she was leaving to find herself, type of thing. I know she really at one time at least thought she was helping women, (very kind in many ways) the last time I saw her, she looked very battleworn. I never asked, but always wondered – I do pray for her. May God have mercy on her, the babies never born, and the mothers who signed the consent forms.

For my final pregnancy, I had a high risk OB, and when it came down to pre-natal testing, I told him it didn’t matter, I wasn’t aborting. He looked actually angry, and said something to the effect of “well, for the vast majority of problems, I wouldn’t do an abortion anyway”. Again, God knows the pain he has endured and the choices he has had to make to provide care for high risk pregnancies in his decades of practice. People are paying silently and dearly for a “woman’s right to choose”.
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Good point. It’s easy for the pro-abortion side to slag off the doctors who convert, like Bernie Nathanson. But this doctor has no such agenda. He is just reporting the facts.

I cannot communicate with a person who so blithely tosses off a statement like was made earlier in the thread. Two in one week (one on another thread) was enough to send me right over the edge. All I can do is pray.
 
BlueEyedLady said:
Women go in to PP wanting an abortion. Pregnant women do not go there to decide the morality of it. And most women do not want to see ultrasounds or hear heartbeats. PP doesn’t lie. These women are not stupid, they know what they want when they go in. Let’s stop treating women like confused children and start acknowledging that they have been hearing both sides of the debate their entire lives and they are still choosing abortion. They have seen the pictures, heard the vile rhetoric, and still don’t want to be pregnant. Whether you agree with the choice or not let’s at least give women the dignity of owning their choices.

Like many other women if I got pregnant my first call would be to my fiance, my second would be to PP. I don’t need PP to show me ultrasounds or have me listen to a heartbeat. I’m not paying for a morality lesson, just the medical procedure that the SCOTUS says I’m entitled to.
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I don’t understand your thinking here at all. What distinguishes this child you would choose to abort from a future child you would decide to keep? How could you ever claim to love a child you would have in the future when you could frivolously dispose of a child today? What is it that makes one lovable but the other not? What kind of massive change of heart could take place that would distinguish the two? There is something deeply disturbing about this view.
What is most disturbing is how frivolously we can treat another human life and not even wince at the thoughtlessness behind it. Our culture is in deep trouble! :nope:

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