For All Our Meslims Friend,please Explain

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Heaven, as promised in the Quran describes men drinking endless quantities of wine and sex with women to which he is not married (Suras 2:25; 4:57; 11:23; 47:15). We wonder why Muslims will not drink wine or commit adultery on their wives now? Does eternity make these sins right? This view of heaven is common and earthly and originates from the mind of men, not God. As Morey puts it: “The Quran’s picture of paradise is exactly what a seventh-century pagan Arab would have thought wonderful.”
 
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Heaven, as promised in the Quran describes men drinking endless quantities of wine and sex with women to which he is not married (Suras 2:25; 4:57; 11:23; 47:15). We wonder why Muslims will not drink wine or commit adultery on their wives now? Does eternity make these sins right? This view of heaven is common and earthly and originates from the mind of men, not God. As Morey puts it: “The Quran’s picture of paradise is exactly what a seventh-century pagan Arab would have thought wonderful.”
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Heaven has non alcoholic wine. And i wonder how you git the idea of men having sex with women whom they are not married.

There is nothing wrong with heaven having earthly origins. I would like to have pommegranates in heaven as well as apples. I would like to be married and live in a nice house. I want to drink wine that wouldnt get me intoxicated and i want to have fun. I want to praise God and i want to live and have fun as well.

what is the problem with that ? I fail to see what is wrong exactly.
 
meedo said:
Heaven has non alcoholic wine. And i wonder how you git the idea of men having sex with women whom they are not married.

There is nothing wrong with heaven having earthly origins. I would like to have pommegranates in heaven as well as apples. I would like to be married and live in a nice house. I want to drink wine that wouldnt get me intoxicated and i want to have fun. I want to praise God and i want to live and have fun as well.

what is the problem with that ? I fail to see what is wrong exactly.
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How do you know that heaven has non-alcholic wine, and tell me what the verse I give you are saying or they right or wrong. Its from your book and not from the Bible.PLEASE and have a good nite
 
Non-believers really should not get unduly concerned about the presence of women in Paradise.

After all, are there not more women in Hell where non-believers are destined to end up according to the teachings of Islam?

And there is no sex and wine in Hell BTW and so non-believers might find this to be more acceptable behaviour in the Hereafter.
 
BILL PICK said:
How do you know that heaven has non-alcholic wine, and tell me what the verse I give you are saying or they right or wrong. Its from your book and not from the Bible.PLEASE and have a good nite
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Well the verse exist. But what does it differ if i quote it for your any way ?

yes ofcourse it is from the Quran and not the Bible. But i am asking you to tell me what is wrong with the concept of enjoyng oneself in heaven any way ?

every time this discussion is open it appears to me more and more than Christians think of life itself as a sin . or a dirty thing.
 
What are the verse saying please look and tell us in english, Suras 2:25; 4:57; 11:23; 47:15).
 
meedo said:
Well the verse exist. But what does it differ if i quote it for your any way ?

yes ofcourse it is from the Quran and not the Bible. But i am asking you to tell me what is wrong with the concept of enjoyng oneself in heaven any way ?

every time this discussion is open it appears to me more and more than Christians think of life itself as a sin . or a dirty thing.
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Why do you not answer the question and stop dancing around.
 
meedo said:
Well the verse exist. But what does it differ if i quote it for your any way ?

yes ofcourse it is from the Quran and not the Bible. But i am asking you to tell me what is wrong with the concept of enjoyng oneself in heaven any way ?

every time this discussion is open it appears to me more and more than Christians think of life itself as a sin . or a dirty thing.
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meedo, no. For Christian paradise is to be with the Almighty for Eternity - nothing else required.
 
hamba2han said:
Non-believers really should not get unduly concerned about the presence of women in Paradise.

After all, are there not more women in Hell where non-believers are destined to end up according to the teachings of Islam?

And there is no sex and wine in Hell BTW and so non-believers might find this to be more acceptable behaviour in the Hereafter.
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Well, they aren’t really women from earth are they? They are virgins who are recycled continually to remain virgins. :rotfl:

Foul, disgusting filth from the decadent mohammed’s flaccid appendage. You follow a man’s appendance. You associate a man’s appendage with allah.

This is fun. Just make a statement, that’s it. 😃
 
Oh wait! Maybe that’s what that means!!! (One woman’s hell is another man’s paradise.) ??? 😛
 
For anyone who is really, really, REALLY interested in finding out what we can expect in Paradise according to the teachings of Islam, then I would suggest that you listen to this 7-part lecture by Tawfique Choudury of which the 1st part is as follows:

youtube.com/watch?v=hpbQyQLViNo
 
Like I said, the link is only for those who are really, really, REALLY interested in finding out what Islam teaches about Paradise.
 
hamba2han said:
Like I said, the link is only for those who are really, really, REALLY interested in finding out what Islam teaches about Paradise.
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Thank you, hamba2han. I’ve bookmarked the link and will watch the series as soon as possible. I have also listened to a muslim scholar on Jennah, and will be interested to hear if they are similar or dissimilar, if so in what ways, etc.

Jharek, hopefully there is enough debate going on in here to deflect the impact of proselytising that muslims are engaged in on the forum. I have found many of their posts to be proselytising.
 
chrisse said:
meedo, no. For Christian paradise is to be with the Almighty for Eternity - nothing else required.
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so are you saying men will be having sex and drinking wine,in heaven this is just rubbish if this is all it is ,why not have sex and drink here why wait
 
BILL PICK said:
so are you saying men will be having sex and drinking wine,in heaven this is just rubbish if this is all it is ,why not have sex and drink here why wait
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Bill, I don’t understand your point. But your comment to me had nothing to do with my comment.
 
In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace
BILL PICK said:
… why Muslims will not drink wine
or commit adultery on their wives now? "
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In Paradise , there will be no harm from wine .

related verses:

Round them will be passed a cup of pure wine -

White, delicious to the drinkers.

Neither will they have Ghoul (any kind of hurt, abdominal pain, headache, a sin) from that, nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom.

( سورة الصافات , As-Saaffat, Chapter #37, Verse #47)

It’s absurd to think that one can commit adultery as a guest of God Almighty in His garden.
 
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