For Catholics: Would you consider yourself anti-protestant?

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scriabin said:
I believe in letting scripture speak for itself.

2 John 10,11: If anyone comes to you bringing a different doctrine, you must not receive him into your house or even give him a greeting. Whoever greets him has a share in his wicked activities.
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I don’t see how this verse applies. The question isn’t about Protestants “coming to us bringing” a different doctrine. The question is about our attitude toward them simply existing and practicing their faith, not about them trying to change ours.
 
No not at all. I do think most practicing Protestants are at a less deep intellectual level and would benefit from studying Catholic theology and philosophy.
 
Maxply said:
No not at all. I do think most practicing Protestants are at a less deep intellectual level and would benefit from studying Catholic theology and philosophy.
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I assume you are not insinuating that Protestants, faith wise, are less intelligent than Catholics. This isn’t what you are saying is it? :confused:
 
ALLFORHIM said:
Hi,
A catholic posted this somewhere else and preceded to say that this is what the CC teaches and what Popes have taught over the years. I was wondering what you guys think:
**Christ is not present at Protestant services.

They are an offense to God, because they are a product of the Reformation. For example, when the Lutherans gathered in Augsburg to read their confessions of faith…they were gathering in the name of Christ. God forbid our Lord Jesus Christ was ‘present’ at that event.

While Protestants do merit somewhat from worshipping God in their services, it is going too far to say that Christ is ‘present’ there.

Christ would be formerly participating in a schismatic Church if he was at their services.

And thats a no no.

Christ being at a protestant church is like Christ commiting adultery.

He is married to the One Holy Catholic Church, and no other.**
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I’d say that sounds like a lot of the rhetoric that came out after the Reformation, although I’d like to see which Pope said it, and in what manner. Is this an ‘Ex Cathedra’ statement, or just an opinion. Does anyone know where this came from?
 
re: Mike above–

No, it would be silly to claim Protestants are less intelligent. But in my personal experience, I’ve found many practicing Protestants to not really bother with deep philosophical issues; they focus on the quick “Jesus is Love” or “I am Saved” approach, so they never approach these issues.

As a result, it leaves me thinking their faith is somehow less full. Again, this is my personal feeling.

There are folks who claim they just read the Bible, and it’s all there, but even these people have an intepretive framework, although many vigorously deny it. I’m not sure why certain Protestant groups are so anti-philosophical. To me, one of the great strengths, wonderments, resources and adventures of Catholicism is the depth of wisdom shown in the great Catholic writers and thinkers. They’ve seen the complicated, hard issues of life and have written on it.

And of course, many Protestants shudder at the idea of reading anything beyond the Bible, which tends to restrict their views. The great problem with this is, the use of the Bible as a source of competing one-liners!
 
artist3189 said:
I’d say that sounds like a lot of the rhetoric that came out after the Reformation, although I’d like to see which Pope said it, and in what manner. Is this an ‘Ex Cathedra’ statement, or just an opinion. Does anyone know where this came from?
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Hi,

This came from another catholic here on the forums. Im sure it was just his/her opinion. This person gave a list of Popes who he /she says agrees with what is in the post:eek: . I really dont believe ANY Pope EVER would say such a thing nor do I believe the CC teaches this.

I just wanted a catholic opinion on what a fellow catholic said about protestants. I personally was appauled and hurt by the comments.😦 Of course Im a protestant:D
 
Maxply said:
re: Mike above–

No, it would be silly to claim Protestants are less intelligent. But in my personal experience, I’ve found many practicing Protestants to not really bother with deep philosophical issues; they focus on the quick “Jesus is Love” or “I am Saved” approach, so they never approach these issues.
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To play devil’s advocate (pls no comments about Satan, etc.) for a minute… Maybe the Church has made God’s message more complex than it needs to be. Perhaps it very simple, but maybe the Church has “deep thought” it so much that now we have so many rules, traditions and doctrines that its gone way past what God actually had in mind. This may not be so, but sometimes I (and I think others) wonder. How about that?
 
Maxply said:
But in my personal experience, I’ve found many practicing Protestants to not really bother with deep philosophical issues; they focus on the quick “Jesus is Love” or “I am Saved” approach, so they never approach these issues.

As a result, it leaves me thinking their faith is somehow less full. Again, this is my personal feeling.

There are folks who claim they just read the Bible, and it’s all there, but even these people have an intepretive framework, although many vigorously deny it. I’m not sure why certain Protestant groups are so anti-philosophical. To me, one of the great strengths, wonderments, resources and adventures of Catholicism is the depth of wisdom shown in the great Catholic writers and thinkers. They’ve seen the complicated, hard issues of life and have written on it.
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A gross generalization that is equally applicable to the “average Joe Catholic” as it is to the “average Joe Protestant.” Do you think Calvin’s theological writings were not “deep”? They may or may not have been correct depending on your perspective, but intellectually challenging definitely. Or from the Lutheran perspective, how about Bonhoeffer? Or from the Anglican perspective, how about C.S. Lewis? (And many more, I am sure, of which I am woefully ignorant). Don’t paint with the broad brush of ignorance…
 
I don’t see myself as anti-protestant. I find some prostestants annoying when they wring their hands over my being Catholic because they believe I am in the hands of Satan. I love the passion of many protestants for God and Jesus, which I often do not see within my Catholic church.
 
…and considering how protestants (our brothers) slander our Lord by denying His Church of its authority, His Scripture of some of its holy books, and His Mother of due honor, respect, and reverence…

1 Corinthians 5: “In fact what I meant was that you were not to have anything to do with anyone going by the name of brother who is a …slanderer… It is no concern of mine to judge outsiders. It is for you to judge those who are inside, is it not?
You must banish this evil-doer from among you.”
 
I would not consider myself anti-Protestant at all. Who could deny the fact that so many protestants have a remarkable faith in the Lord?:gopray: Whenever I meet a protestant, I don’t think of them any differently to a catholic. However, as a catholic I don’t recognise their churches as apostolic & tend to think of their denominations as man-made. But their christian faith in Our Saviour is just as valid as mine.:bible1:
 
Anti-protestant what a concept! If by this is meant anti-heresy and falsehood then yes of course i am.
Many times our need to be liberal/pc convinces us that too each his own and that ecumenical goals require give and take and though for some this may be so the choice is clear. As a catholic i must and will defend and propogate my faith whenever i can and if this makes me anti catholic then mea culpa

GOD BLESS
Arthur
Ad Jesu per Mariam
 
And wouldnt you know it just when i was reaching new pompous heights in my previous post an error slipped in it should read anti protestant and not anti catholic:) And so a lesson in humility is taught.

God bless
Arthur
Ad Jesu per Mariam
 
I love protestants. Martin Luther loved the catholic church he didnt want to divide it. In hes days the popes where commiting adultery, so where the monks. The church sold scrolls to all people so their sinds will be forgiven cause the church allows it. They belived they could exclude people from heaven, they where playing god.

If todays system existed back then Martin Luther wouldnt want to seperate.
 
Pater_Familias said:
And wouldnt you know it just when i was reaching new pompous heights in my previous post an error slipped in it should read anti protestant and not anti catholic:) And so a lesson in humility is taught.

God bless
Arthur
Ad Jesu per Mariam
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LOL 😃 I knew it was a typo;)
 
Doberman said:
I love protestants. Martin Luther loved the catholic church he didnt want to divide it. In hes days the popes where commiting adultery, so where the monks. The church sold scrolls to all people so their sinds will be forgiven cause the church allows it. They belived they could exclude people from heaven, they where playing god.

If todays system existed back then Martin Luther wouldnt want to seperate.
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Wow the popes get blamed for everything. I doubt that they could commit adultery since this presuppouses a marriage,which in luthers time was an impossibility.
also lets not generalise to much or i might start speculating on the source of luther’s scrupelosity which gets one nowhere and proves even less.
God bless
arthur
Ad Jesu per Mariam
 
Pater_Familias said:
Wow the popes get blamed for everything. I doubt that they could commit adultery since this presuppouses a marriage,which in luthers time was an impossibility.
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I believe that sex between a married person and an unmarried person is still adultery for both.
 
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