For Catholics: Would you consider yourself anti-protestant?

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Do I consider myself anti-protestant?

Yes. Yes, I am an anti-protestant. I am a Christian in the Catholic Rite under the Spiritual authority of Cardinal William Henry Keeler, Archbishop of Baltimore. Who is under the Spiritual direction of the Ancient See of Rome, His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI.

I fully reject the ideologies of all Protestant ecclesial communities and their tenants of faith that are in conflict with the faith handed down by the Apostles of Jesus Christ.

I think being a Catholic in good standing makes one anti-protestant automatically.
 
Mannyfit75 said:
So the Protestant to this day still splinters… Talk about disunity… shame shame…Jesus prayed for us to be one. How can this be fullfilled if the Protestantism just keep on splintering?
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Let’s not get all one-sided here. The wounds to the unity of the Church lie with Protestants, Orthodox AND Catholics.

*CCC 817: In fact, “in this one and only Church of God from its very beginnings there arose certain rifts, which the Apostle strongly censures as damnable. But in subsequent centuries much more serious dissensions appeared and large communities became separated from full communion with the Catholic Church - for which, often enough, men of both sides were to blame.”… * (Emphasis added).
 
rr1213 said:
Let’s not get all one-sided here. The wounds to the unity of the Church lie with Protestants, Orthodox AND Catholics.

CCC 817: In fact, "in this one and only Church of God from its very beginnings there arose certain rifts, which the Apostle strongly censures as damnable. But in subsequent centuries much more serious dissensions appeared and large communities became separated from full communion with the Catholic Church - for which, often enough, men of both sides were to blame."… (Emphasis added).
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Yes, I know about the split between the Protestants and Catholic in 1517.

I just stating that Protestantism itself just splinter. You noticed I listed a name of the Reformer Leaders during the Reformation. If you look at modern Protestantism, there are thousands of denomination with varies doctrines and belief due to the doctrine of Sola Scriptura.

The issue is that there is no unity in Protestantism. They just splinter into more churches.
 
Mannyfit75 said:
Yes, I know about the split between the Protestants and Catholic in 1517.

I just stating that Protestantism itself just splinter. You noticed I listed a name of the Reformer Leaders during the Reformation. If you look at modern Protestantism, there are thousands of denomination with varies doctrines and belief due to the doctrine of Sola Scriptura.

The issue is that there is no unity in Protestantism. They just splinter into more churches.
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That is not always true. There have been some unions. In Canada the Prebyterian, Congregationalist, and Methodist Churches combined to form the United Church of Canada. And the existence of some the “thousands” of denominations is not always doctrine. Most of the Protestant churches are organized in national units. So while it may appear that there are 180 say Presbyterian Churches, they may all hold the same doctrine just in different countries.

Then there is the view that the only church is the local church. So there can be a multitude of congregations holding the same doctrines but each being a separate “denomination” because of their belief on church government, which is one of the beliefs they hold in common. That being said there is certainly too much division in Protestantism. I think there could be said to be a lot of division in the Catholic Church if people who do not hold all the doctrines but nominally remain in the Church are considered.
 
SyCarl said:
That is not always true. There have been some unions. In Canada the Prebyterian, Congregationalist, and Methodist Churches combined to form the United Church of Canada. And the existence of some the “thousands” of denominations is not always doctrine. Most of the Protestant churches are organized in national units. So while it may appear that there are 180 say Presbyterian Churches, they may all hold the same doctrine just in different countries.

Then there is the view that the only church is the local church. So there can be a multitude of congregations holding the same doctrines but each being a separate “denomination” because of their belief on church government, which is one of the beliefs they hold in common. That being said there is certainly too much division in Protestantism. I think there could be said to be a lot of division in the Catholic Church if people who do not hold all the doctrines but nominally remain in the Church are considered.
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The only difference between Catholic and Protestants is this.

In Catholic Church doctrines, and dogmas are defined by the Magisterium of the Catholic Church.
  1. The Deposit of Faith doesn’t change because it has been handed down from us by the Apostles and to the bishops their successors. If you look at the Church document Dei Verbum, HG, and other Vatican II, they set the ground rules on discipline and rites of the Church.
  2. There are dissenters in the Catholic Church such as those politicans and some Catholic priests who belief is contrary to the teachings of the Church, and rebel against the Church. Some even step ove the authority of the church, like one bishop who ordained married men with the Pope’s disapproval. That bishop was execommunicated. There was another group of women nuns who ordain women priest and claim to be Catholic.
The Vatican declare their ordaination null and void. Just as in Acts, the Church display authority when there are disagreements.

In Protestantism, where there is disagreement they just break with that Protestant Church and form their own church. Now, who is practicing what Jesus said regarding dispute.

The fact that the Church in Rome execommunicate and issue eddicts regarding disobedient Catholic laymen and religious is founded that the Church has authority when dealing with dissenters.

This is what makes the Catholic Church different from the Protestant Church.
 
I hold some negative views on Protestantism, such as the doctrine of Sola Fide (but this doctrine is only of some denominations), which I wholeheartedly despise, but I wouldn’t even go so far as to say I dislike Protestantism, let alone be against it.
 
b_justb said:
Do I consider myself anti-protestant?

Yes. Yes, I am an anti-protestant. I am a Christian in the Catholic Rite under the Spiritual authority of Cardinal William Henry Keeler, Archbishop of Baltimore. Who is under the Spiritual direction of the Ancient See of Rome, His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI.

I fully reject the ideologies of all Protestant ecclesial communities and their tenants of faith that are in conflict with the faith handed down by the Apostles of Jesus Christ.

I think being a Catholic in good standing makes one anti-protestant automatically.
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At least you’re honest… But mind you… Since you proclaim, with some pride I might add, that you are in fact anti-protestant it will make me VERY wary in reading anything you state on this Non-Catholic board…

Let’s be honest here folks… if ANYONE came on here and stated that they were anti-catholocism the fur would automatically start flying. How can someone be anti-catholocism and not be anti-catholic? I just don’t understand…:confused:
 
I am not anti- anyone. Unfortunately, however, I often come across as anti-Protestant for the sole reason that I am anti-Protestant denominations. Now, hear me out. I do not agree with Protestant beliefs. In speaking about those beliefs, it may be that it seems I am speaking evil of those who believe those beliefs. But I don’t hate Protestants. I have known more Protestants than Catholics, and I love and respect a good majority of them. I love all Christians, and try to follow Christ’s command to love all people. But it’s hard to speak against or question a person’s faith without highly offending the person.

A (maybe rather poor) example would be homosexuality. As a Christian, I am totally against it. I believe that those who practice it will go to hell if they don’t repent. But I don’t hate homosexuals. Hate the sin, not the sinner, right? Otherwise I should hate everyone, especially myself, as all are sinners.

Anyway, I think alot of what comes across as anti-Catholic or anti-Protestant is simply a failure to understand that we are not anti-each other. I doubt ninety-nine percent of the posters on these forums actually full out hate PROTESTANTS or CATHOLICS. We just love our own faith and belief systems, and tend to get defensive if someone seems to oppose them- even if they are only asking why we believe that way.

I know- kind of confused and unclear post, but I’m tired. I get off in two hours, yay! Peace.
 
Cat said:
We were kicked out of our Evangelical Free Church after we gave seven years of good service to the Christians in that church. Remember Laban and his trickery? Been there. It was pretty awful.
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Wow Cat in a way I kind of understand. Here’s what’s happing to me. Little background parents stopped going to Mass when I was five years old so I was Catholic in name only I was un-churched. I was just checking out the Catholic Church when my wife of twenty-three years passed away. The Lord blessed me with another lady a devoted Christian woman when I first started attending RCIA we ended up getting married by the State of Texas.

Am I anti Protestant, well my oldest brother is Lutheran and my lovely wife is Protestant but not main line Protestant she is a Seventh - Day Adventist. So I say no I’m not anti Protestent.

After I entered the Church of course my marriage is invalid so I cannot receive our Lord in communion. So I ask the wife lets get married in the Catholic Church. In her mind we are already married and the Catholic Church should stay out of our marriage. I went to confession and talk to my Priest and he said, “Well go get married in her church we know they have a valid baptism the Catholic Church will bless it then you will be in a Christian marriage and will be able to receive communion.” I’m thinking great this will work.

The wife said she would be happy to get married in her church. Guess what the Seventh – Day Adventist church will not marry us because I’m a Catholic they want me to convert. :banghead: Yeah right Alec Baldwin will vote republican first; not going to happen. So we are now living as brother and sister.

We used to go to church together I would go to her service on Saturday mornings and she would go to Mass with me on Saturday evenings. It got so bad every one of the services at the Adventist church they would slam Catholics I got so fed up I told her I cannot attend her services anymore the way they’re slamming the Lords Church.

So she goes to her service on Saturday and I go to Mass on the Lords Day. Am I bitter no! I know the Lord has a plan for me I just don’t know what it is yet. So I have left my marriage in the hands of the Holy Spirit and I’m just all long for the ride.😃

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CAT Ellen G. White is the Adventists Pope:p
 
Pater_Familias said:
I agree but if both are umarried then its not adultery but fornication more than mere semantics. Dont u agree?
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I do not agree fornication; what commandment does that fall under?
From the Catechism:
2390 In a so-called free union, a man and a woman refuse to give juridical and public form to a liaison involving sexual intimacy.

The expression “free union” is fallacious: what can “union” mean when the partners make no commitment to one another, each exhibiting a lack of trust in the other, in himself, or in the future?

The expression covers a number of different situations: concubinage, rejection of marriage as such, or inability to make long-term commitments.183 All these situations offend against the dignity of marriage; they destroy the very idea of the family; they weaken the sense of fidelity. They are contrary to the moral law. The sexual act must take place exclusively within marriage. Outside of marriage it always constitutes a grave sin and excludes one from sacramental communion.

2391 Some today claim a “right to a trial marriage” where there is an intention of getting married later. However firm the purpose of those who engage in premature sexual relations may be, "the fact is that such liaisons can scarcely ensure mutual sincerity and fidelity in a relationship between a man and a woman, nor, especially, can they protect it from inconstancy of desires or whim."184 Carnal union is morally legitimate only when a definitive community of life between a man and woman has been established. Human love does not tolerate “trial marriages.” It demands a total and definitive gift of persons to one another.185

Sorry to get off topic.
 
stanmaxkolbe said:
So she goes to her service on Saturday and I go to Mass on the Lords Day. Am I bitter no! I know the Lord has a plan for me I just don’t know what it is yet. So I have left my marriage in the hands of the Holy Spirit and I’m just all long for the ride.😃 P.S.
CAT Ellen G. White is the Adventists Pope:p
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Wow, you definitely will be entered into my prayer list.
 
I’m not anti-protestant. I used to be one. Now, I just feel sorry for them, because they do not have the fullness of Christ. They are missing out on so much! I am infinitely closer to Jesus in the Catholic Church than I ever was out of it. Praise be to God, He led me to the Truth, and that is the Catholic Church.
 
Memaw said:
What are their Awanies meetings, I never heard of them before??
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i just noticed the post. i am sorry that it took me so long to get to it.

i think that i meant awanas. it is a group for kids that meet once a week, usually on Wednesday. they play games and have fun. they also learn bible verses that support protestant teachings. if you learn enough verses you get rewards.

it isn’t evil or anything just very protestant in its teachings. plus i am wary of any church that does friendship evangelizing as this could lead to some underhanded attempts to convert my kids.
 
Singinbeauty said:
At least you’re honest… But mind you… Since you proclaim, with some pride I might add, that you are in fact anti-protestant it will make me VERY wary in reading anything you state on this Non-Catholic board…

Let’s be honest here folks… if ANYONE came on here and stated that they were anti-Catholicism the fur would automatically start flying. How can someone be anti-Catholicism and not be anti-catholic? I just don’t understand…:confused:
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i think that it might be more appropriate for the person to say that they are against certain teachings of some Protestant churches.

i really detest some of the extreme forms of OsAS.

i am not anti protestant, though, because i view protestants as Christians, even those who believe in those extreme forms of osas.
 
I dont consider myself anti protestant.
But i dont agree with their teachings, as they dont agree with mine.
As long as we are at peace.
 
Anti-protestant, not exactly. But definitely against many protestant beliefs. Then again, I am an Anglo-Catholic, so many posters here wouldn’t consider me fully Catholic anyway.
 
Anti-Protestant? No. One of my best friends is Protestant. (Although, I am praying for her conversion to Catholicism.)

The Protestants that are anti-catholic, and bash us, are the protestants that don’t have a clue on what we believe. Only studying the Catholic faith on their part would put an end to catholic bashing all together. It would probably bring about many conversions as well.

Bishop Fulton J. Sheen says it this way, “There are not 100 people who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions, however, who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church.”
 
The main branch of Protestantism I find repulsive is fundamentalism and also the people who are obsessed with the ‘end-times’ and things like rapture. I don’t doubt amoung these there are some who love the Lord with all their heart, but also there is an anti-intellectualism and intolerance I find disturbing. I also have some difficulties with the theology of the Reformers, especially Calvinism (I regard the ideas of double predestination and total corruption and depravity are theologically unacceptable and come from a serious misreading of St Augustine, and I can’t accept the doctrines of sola fide and sola scripture). Otherwise I regard all Protestants as brothers and sisters in Christ.
 
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