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I’ve never watched the show but here’s a cool graphic showing all the deaths on the show, clan/kingdom, manner of death (apparently no one dies of sickness or accident) and season/episode. Oh, and it includes animal deaths as well as humans.
 
The show has.disgusting pornographic scenes with immodest semi nudity.and crude language.

Watching pornographic scenes is a mortal sin under the three conditions.
didymus said:
I’ve never watched the show but here’s a cool graphic showing all the deaths on the show, clan/kingdom, manner of death (apparently no one dies of sickness or accident) and season/episode. Oh, and it includes animal deaths as well as humans.
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OurLadysServant said:
The show has.disgusting pornographic scenes with immodest semi nudity.and crude language.

Watching pornographic scenes is a mortal sin under the three conditions.
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I tried to just read the books (which aren’t as graphic), but the cynicism and bleakness is just too much. And the TV producers use a tactic of “sexplanation”, in which characters discuss something critical to the story during a graphic sex scene; it’s more irritating than tempting, as you know they’re preventing you from fast-forwarding.

(On the flipside, Emilia Clarke, who plays Danaerys Targaryen, refused to do any more nude scenes, so that’s good).
 
Pornography is a sin.

Even if its sneakily slipped into books and tv.

catholics.should.have.nothing.to.do wwith the book or show

Plenty of.christian shows out there
JackVk said:
I tried to just read the books (which aren’t as graphic), but the cynicism and bleakness is just too much. And the TV producers use a tactic of “sexplanation”, in which characters discuss something critical to the story during a graphic sex scene; it’s more irritating than tempting, as you know they’re preventing you from fast-forwarding.

(On the flipside, Emilia Clarke, who plays Danaerys Targaryen, refused to do any more nude scenes, so that’s good).
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JackVk said:
I tried to just read the books (which aren’t as graphic), but the cynicism and bleakness is just too much. **And the TV producers use a tactic of “sexplanation”, in which characters discuss something critical to the story during a graphic sex scene; it’s more irritating than tempting, as you know they’re preventing you from fast-forwarding. **

(On the flipside, Emilia Clarke, who plays Danaerys Targaryen, refused to do any more nude scenes, so that’s good).
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Oh yuck. 😦

I was able to skip the lurid parts of the book and found I was interested in the story, but they’re badly in need of editing the further you get. Mostly I just want to know who Jon Snow’s mother is (I have a guess, but I still want to know if I am right!).

Maybe after the last book is published I’ll just look it up on Wikipedia. 😃
 
OK, I’m sorry. All I’d heard was it’s very violent.
I just thought the graphic was cool.
 
This is awesome, thank you for the link. I enjoy the show and just see everything as artistic.
 
isu said:
No, because there is nothing wrong with the show.
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The amount of sex and nudity in the series, especially in scenes that are incidental to the plot, was the focus of much of the criticism aimed at the series in its first and second season. Actor Stephen Dillane, who portrays Stannis Baratheon, likened the series’s frequent explicit scenes to “German porn from the 1970s”.[142] Charlie Anders wrote in io9 that while the first season was replete with light-hearted “sexposition”, the second season appeared to focus on distasteful, exploitative and dehumanizing sex with little informational content.[143] According to the Washington Post’s Anna Holmes, the nude scenes appeared to be aimed mainly at titillating heterosexual men, right down to the Brazilian waxes sported by the women in the series’s faux-medieval setting, which made these scenes alienating to other viewers.[144] And in the Huffington Post, Maureen Ryan likewise noted that Game of Thrones mostly presented women naked, rather than men, and the excess of “random boobage” undercut any aspirations the series might have to address the oppression of women in a feudal society.[145] Saturday Night Live parodied this aspect of the adaptation in a sketch portraying the series as retaining a thirteen-year-old boy as a consultant whose main concern was showing as many breasts per scene as possible.[143][146]
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Elizium23:
…sensationalist writing to get emotional responses out of people who can’t see a story for what it is. Art. A lot of the stuff in the show happened in the past. History channel documentaries will assist with this.

I do not see any propaganda in the show that forces me to accept homosexuality or to further make women degraded, etc. This is a well written story that shows details of how life is like in that world which is a pretty good mirror to the world of our past. There are many other shows that are popular that I refuse to watch because of the propaganda and unnecessary nudity. I have not felt any of the nudity scenes as unnecessary in this show. On the contrary I felt a lot of it added to the story, especially with the story of Khalessi. I became more emotionally attached the character because of the details. (as a women myself, I understood her powerlessness) If you can’t see a well written story/art when it’s in front of you there is nothing more for me to say. Not saying that you have to like it. Moby Dick is a well written novel but that doesn’t mean that I enjoyed the story.
 
GoT isn’t perfect in terms of female representation (for example, female nudity being much more common in the show than male nudity), but it’s still got a lot of positive elements to it. For example, GoT has a decent number of significant female characters, and they all have different personalities and motivations and positive/negative traits; that should be (at least) the norm on TV shows, but it isn’t.
 
Loly_Maria said:
GoT isn’t perfect in terms of female representation (for example, female nudity being much more common in the show than male nudity), but it’s still got a lot of positive elements to it. For example, GoT has a decent number of significant female characters, and they all have different personalities and motivations and positive/negative traits; that should be (at least) the norm on TV shows, but it isn’t.
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I would have to agree with that.
 
isu said:
This is awesome, thank you for the link. I enjoy the show and just see everything as artistic.
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Personally I don’t buy the whole art excuse. If they wanted to tell us that there was lots of sex, it doesn’t mean we have to see it. There have been plenty of movies where you know people are having or have had sex, without them showing it graphically.

We know people have sex all the time, but we don’t stand their in the room and watch it. They could easily have not shown these scenes. It’s personal, it’s not for people to gawp at and when they do, that is what turns it in to an immoral sin, because you do it for completely selfish reasons.

Nudity in the name of art is in my view just an excuse for perverted minds to get to draw, take pictures of, make scenes with or gawp at nude bodies and sexual scenes. I’m totally against this.
 
Polak said:
Nudity in the name of art is in my view just an excuse for perverted minds to get to draw, take pictures of, make scenes with or gawp at nude bodies and sexual scenes. I’m totally against this.
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Hang on there, are you saying there is no nudity with valid artistic merit? That view is quite wrong; there is a large chasm between porn and tasteful nudity. Just look at some of the art in the Vatican… start with Michelangelo’s Sistine Chapel.

That being said, it’s clear that GoT is nothing but porn, and trashy vioent porn at that. Even Planned Parenthood does some nice redeeming things, it doesn’t mean they should be patronized.
 
Okay, I’ve been curious about GoT, because it seems that “everybody is talking about it,” it’s not available on Netflix or any other free streaming site, and we don’t have HBO. So, just to have had the experience, I went to a pirate site and downloaded Season 1, Episode 1, and here is my “review.”

The video quality (approximately the same as a 1960s-70s-era color TV) and audio quality (shall we say, less than optimum) meant that the download was worth roughly what I paid for it – nothing.

As an entertainment experience, I’m no prude, but I have to say that OurLadysServant and Elizium23 are correct – while there is a story being told, significant portions of the episode were ordinary soft-core porn. One episode was quite enough, and I have since cleared the space on my computer’s hard drive.
 
DaveBj said:
Okay, I’ve been curious about GoT, because it seems that “everybody is talking about it,” it’s not available on Netflix or any other free streaming site, and we don’t have HBO. So, just to have had the experience, I went to a pirate site and downloaded Season 1, Episode 1, and here is my “review.”

The video quality (approximately the same as a 1960s-70s-era color TV) and audio quality (shall we say, less than optimum) meant that the download was worth roughly what I paid for it – nothing.

As an entertainment experience, I’m no prude, but I have to say that OurLadysServant and Elizium23 are correct – while there is a story being told, significant portions of the episode were ordinary soft-core porn. One episode was quite enough, and I have since cleared the space on my computer’s hard drive.
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I’d say the choice to pirate the show was more morally problematic than the show’s content.
 
gracepoole said:
I’d say the choice to pirate the show was more morally problematic than the show’s content.
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I will agree that the morality of watching a pirated copy is questionable, but that was the only way that I would have been able to satisfy my intellectual curiosity. But if you believe that my watching a pirated copy was more morally problematic than the producers’ showing multiple instances of frontal female nudity and depicting a girl being raped from behind by a barbarian – I don’t know what to say about that comment that the moderators would allow to remain.
 
DaveBj said:
I will agree that the morality of watching a pirated copy is questionable, but that was the only way that I would have been able to satisfy my intellectual curiosity.
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“I wonder what it would be like to have sex with someone other than my wife… Well, only one way to satisfy my curiosity.”

There’s nothing “questionable” about the morality or lack thereof in theft. Piracy is theft.
 
gracepoole said:
“I wonder what it would be like to have sex with someone other than my wife… Well, only one way to satisfy my curiosity.”

There’s nothing “questionable” about the morality or lack thereof in theft. Piracy is theft.
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I “borrowed” it for a while. Even the copyright laws allow for copying for academic purposes. And my quibble is with your rating that “moral violation” as worse than distributing porn.
 
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