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excaliber as you learn about mormon doctrine i hope you will talk about the similarities and differences from the JWs. I understand there are more similarities than differences.
 
It’s true, probably in excess of 30,000 polygamous marriages in Utah, Colorado, Arizona and Idaho.
I bet this whole thing about polygamy will be considered off topic, but since the question was asked and the above answer is from hosemonkey, thought perhaps a clarification is in order. Isn’t the polygamous marriages from the many offshoots of the LDS, but not from the LDS headquartered in Salt Lake City? Thought that if polygamy was practiced by the members of the LDS in Salt Lake City, the offending parties would be excommunicated.
 
I bet this whole thing about polygamy will be considered off topic, but since the question was asked and the above answer is from hosemonkey, thought perhaps a clarification is in order. Isn’t the polygamous marriages from the many offshoots of the LDS, but not from the LDS headquartered in Salt Lake City? Thought that if polygamy was practiced by the members of the LDS in Salt Lake City, the offending parties would be excommunicated.
Undoubtedly, many polygamous
“marriages” are entered into by mormons who are not in “official” standing with the mormon “church.” But there are also many who are living the “principle” deeply underground and who are regular members. The doctrine of plural “marriage” has never been abrogated by the General Authorities, it has only been placed “in suspension.” If you turn over enough rocks, you will find “temple recommend holding” mormons in polygamous “marriages.”
 
I was told something that could have been a rumor.
I was told that mormons still practice poligamy illegally.

The man has unofficial marriages with women living in different homes. And the women just says that she dose not know who the father of her children are.

Don’t know if this is true or not?
As already pointed out, the LDS Church retains polygamy as a doctrine, just, it is a doctrine they do not practice. The LDS Church itself will excommunicate anyone who is practicing polygamy.

That being said, there are a lot of people who do practice it. Not like you see in Texas, with odd clothing and insular compounds. No, these are women who are living in Utah suburbia with their children, and claim that they are “single mothers”. When in fact, they are practicing polygamy.

I had neighbors in the house behind me that were living this way. And a friend of mine has a next door neighbor who is living this way. On paper, they are single mothers, in practice, they consider themselves married.

But, it should also be pointed out that there are more than a few people living other types of “Bilbical polygamy”, and also secular polyamorous relationships across the US. It is not just a “Mormon thing”.
 
If you are asking him a question, then I am out! You either ask him a question, or me, not both!

zerinus
such arrogance for one so young. who here needs Z’s help, approval or permission? i didn’t think so. so go ahead and ask away, if z doesn’t respond consider yourself fortunate. all of his answers are on his blog anyway.:rolleyes:
 
such arrogance for one so young. who here needs Z’s help, approval or permission? i didn’t think so. so go ahead and ask away, if z doesn’t respond consider yourself fortunate. all of his answers are on his blog anyway.:rolleyes:
I didn’t wait to get zerinus’ permission, I just went ahead and answered the poster’s question. Sure hope I don’t get into trouble with zerinus, being that he is in charge of mormon “apologetics” on these forums.:rolleyes:
 
If you are asking him a question, then I am out! You either ask him a question, or me, not both!

zerinus
Z your not going to like this,
but if jw’s and lds are alike that means you are to with hold information. I hear muslims also are able to do this.

Jw’s must keep information from EACHOTHER let alone new members. For example I am not to reveal negative experiences at bethel to anyone (even other jw’s) outside bethel.

If jw and lds are simular in this regard. That means that there is information that would even be kept from you. I don’t know if that’s true with mormons yet.

Because I don’t know where the jw’s and lds are different. The logical conclusion is to ask more then one person. Because I saw A LOT of children at the lds church.
Then someone told me about secret poligamy illegally…its possible that mormons have emphasis on strong families…I don’t know just had to ask.
 
Because I don’t know where the jw’s and lds are different. The logical conclusion is to ask more then one person.
Well, he did answer your question. He told you that Mormons secretly practice polygamy. Do you believe him?

zerinus
 
The guilty take the truth to be hard. -nephi
nephi is a construct of someones imagination.so what truth? i wouldn’t give 5 minutes to JW’s or amway reps either. are you claiming that makes them true?in any case i would respond with 2 peter 2 to all mormons.
 
nephi is a construct of someones imagination.so what truth? i wouldn’t give 5 minutes to JW’s or amway reps either. are you claiming that makes them true?in any case i would respond with 2 peter 2 to all mormons.
your denial of a fact does not cause it to be a non fact.

Peter is cool A bit more blunt than I personally tend to be, but I do agree with him.
 
your denial of a fact does not cause it to be a non fact.

Peter is cool A bit more blunt than I personally tend to be, but I do agree with him.
i don’t deny any FACTS. and your assertion applies to all. that particular petrine quote i believe applies specifically to mormonism, especially the early leaders like joseph smith and brigham young.
 
Well, he did answer your question. He told you that Mormons secretly practice polygamy. Do you believe him?

zerinus
You guys better not be!!!
If I can’t have 5 wives you guys can’t eather!!!

wait a minuet…dose that mean I have to buy 5 engagement rings
YIKES!!!
 
Well, he did answer your question. He told you that Mormons secretly practice polygamy. Do you believe him?

zerinus
A couple (a few?.. I’m bad with time passage) years ago I was home for my family reunion and there was a front page story in the Chicago Tribune about LDS families that practice polygamy. So I do believe that some LDS secretly practice polygamy. Though since one can’t have more than one spouse they are all really nothing more than adulterers.
 
Men have tried every line in the book to get away with cheating.

And now your telling me that there is a religion that lets guys have plenty of women…who know about eachother…and yet don’t beat, yell at, cut, or even kill the man…they actualy marry him!
lets not be player haters 😃
 
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