For police, the goal is vigilance, not vigilantes

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BroomWagon said:
Let’s not forget, George Zimmerman was rejected for police service, he wasn’t a police officer, charged for hitting a woman, charged with violence towards a police officer, had to register in an alcohol program, a coworker described him as a racist, reports were that he lost his temper working security at a party and fired.

If you take all that into account, one can see he wasn’t a responsible gun owner.

Talking about killing someone who was doing NO wrong as Zimmerman being right on the money is repugnant. So you have to make excuses for it.
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when?
 
Robert_Sock said:
Profiling then. GZ wantonly profiled TM as a criminal, and was therefore negligent.
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Mr. Sock, just stringing a couple of legal-sounding buzzwords together doesn’t make them mean anything…although I would love to see the legal theory that would be behind the heinous crime of “wanton profiling.” We know you don’t like whatever it is you think he did, but you could at least stop insulting our intelligence by inventing things like this.
 
You guys are so biased against TM. All this stuff has been beaten to death in the GZ thread. If TM had a record, so too did GZ. GZ definitely did incorrectly profile TM as a criminal, even though TM’s only crime was buying some candy and an iced tea. We know GZ profiled based on GZ’s conversation with the dispatcher. GZ was also negligent in following TM in the first place. There was four minutes of dead time. from the time GZ ended his call to the the dispatcher to the time the police arrived. We do not know what actually happened during this time, except that GZ shoot TM. We do know that TM had a perspective too, but people on this thread completely ignore it.

Can we get back to the original post now?
 
lcburgundy said:
Mr. Sock, just stringing a couple of legal-sounding buzzwords together doesn’t make them mean anything…although I would love to see the legal theory that would be behind the heinous crime of “wanton profiling.” We know you don’t like whatever it is you think he did, but you could at least stop insulting our intelligence by inventing things like this.
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Address the post, not the poster.
 
Robert_Sock said:
Address the post, not the poster.
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There was no profiling. 46 calls and probable cause. All documented. You continue to desire to twist this into a racial issue.

I think TM profiled GZ and that’s why he also Stalked him.

The defense argued Zimmerman in fear for his life and bodily injury, defended himself by shooting and killing Martin. He was found not guilty. Thus the jury agreed.
 
GaryTaylor said:
Police displaying overall good vigilance according to the thread? What are your thoughts.
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The police are indeed exercising good vigilance in trying to undermine vigilantism. We do not need neighborhood watch members profiling, following or carrying a concealed weapon.
 
Robert_Sock said:
The police are indeed exercising good vigilance in trying to undermine vigilantism. We do not need neighborhood watch members profiling, following or carrying a concealed weapon.
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No evidence of profiling by block watch.

Being observant is what block watch consists of. No idea of what you talking about with following.

Neighborhood watch isn’t new its ancient.

A permit to carry a firearm is an American Right.

What exactly do YOU mean by profiling?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_profiling
 
SamH said:
Once is enough.
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Hopefully if GZ ie is carrying a gun will now be more responsible with it. I doubt he’ll be captain of any NW so hopefully this tragedy will not happen again. We don’t need vigilantes with concealed weapons; that I do agree with.
 
GaryTaylor said:
No evidence of profiling by block watch.

Being observant is what block watch consists of. No idea of what you talking about with following.

Neighborhood watch isn’t new its ancient.

A permit to carry a firearm is an American Right.

What exactly do YOU mean by profiling?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_profiling
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Evidence of criminal profiling.

Being observant not killing people is what block watch consists of.

Mary.
 
MaryT777 said:
We don’t need vigilantes with concealed weapons; that I do agree with.
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We all agree, crazy people shouldn’t carry firearms. Good US citizens who pass a background check for a permit simply can’t be grouped as crazy people or vigilantes.
 
GaryTaylor said:
We all agree, crazy people shouldn’t carry firearms. Good US citizens who pass a background check for a permit simply can’t be grouped as crazy people or vigilantes.
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I agree. I don’t consider someone with a prior history of assaulting police officers with alcohol involved and domestic violence issues a good US citizen myself.

Looks like Zimmerman got stopped for speeding and had his weapon in his glove
compartment…

Mary.
 
MaryT777 said:
Evidence of criminal profiling.

Being observant not killing people is what block watch consists of.

Mary.
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What evidence of profiling and where?

If being observant results in being confronted and assaulted an individual has the right to defend himself.

Criminals confront block watch members, not un-common, they can and do become targeted.
 
MaryT777 said:
I agree. I don’t consider someone with a prior history of assaulting police officers with alcohol involved and domestic violence issues a good US citizen myself
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I added the link with the details. He has no “conviction” which prohibited him from obtaining a permit. If there was a reason, then the oversight is the back-ground check. Thus not anyones fault but the police who I guess were not vigilante. 🤷
 
GaryTaylor said:
What evidence of profiling and where?

If being observant results in being confronted and assaulted an individual has the right to defend himself.

Criminals confront block watch members, not un-common, they can and do become targeted.
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Being observant means just that, observing. Not following and getting out of your vehicle etc.

How would a criminal know someone was a block watch member? Z never even identified himself as such while he was out of his vehicle.
 
GaryTaylor said:
I added the link with the details. He has no “conviction” which prohibited him from obtaining a permit. If there was a reason, then the oversight is the back-ground check. Thus not anyones fault but the police who I guess were not vigilante. 🤷
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No he did not; that’s the problem. His assault on the police officer was dropped in exchange for an alcohol awareness program.
 
MaryT777 said:
No he did not; that’s the problem. His assault on the police officer was dropped in exchange for an alcohol awareness program.
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Ah, but he has no “conviction” which prohibited him from obtaining a permit. If there was a reason, then the oversight is the back-ground check.

If being observant results in being confronted and assaulted an individual has the right to defend himself.

Criminals know a good deal of what’s going on. Once they take over and get rooted, really is something to see. They killed a block watch member here a year or so ago. He didn’t carry a gun. He thought he was immortal, He wasn’t

Here’s another…

nhregister.com/articles/2012/02/18/news/new_haven/doc4f40576958dcd911150617.txt
 
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