For police, the goal is vigilance, not vigilantes

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Who profiled who?

"We’ve been a tight-knit community that does way more than look out for crime,” she said, adding that about 100 more people have joined the group since the attack on Badurek. “Our community is all about helping each other.”

She said Badurek “happened to run into a group of kids who were up to no good.”

Badurek is not married and helps care for his mother and grandmother.

Charged in the attack with first-degree assault, conspiracy to commit first-degree assault and breach of peace, are: Heriberto Colon, 21, Geovanni Baez, 21, and a 17-year-old who all live in New Haven."

Yes those aggressive Block Watch members. :rolleyes:
 
MaryT777 said:
I agree. I don’t consider someone with a prior history of assaulting police officers with alcohol involved and domestic violence issues a good US citizen myself.

Looks like Zimmerman got stopped for speeding and had his weapon in his glove
compartment…

Mary.
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so what 🤷
 
MaryT777 said:
Evidence of criminal profiling.
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What is “criminal profiling?” Like, do you have a link to a state or federal statutory definition of what the heck that is? The state only tries people on real crimes, not made up stuff like this.
 
Robert_Sock said:
Again, my perspective is that GZ is guilty of manslaughter due to his being negligent for someone with a CCW permit. Someone with a CCW needs to have added responsibility and and prudent judgment. Therefore, GZ ought to have never racially profiled TM and certainly should not have stalked him. This evidence points to GZ being a vigilante.

TM could have easily have been the victim and never have bashed GZ’s head until after he saw GZ go for his gun. Why on earth would TM beat somebody’s head into the ground, and thereby risk life in prison, unless he felt his life was in danger?

Again, all your evidence is hearsay, from GZ’s perspective.

Now can we get back to my original post. We’re really getting off track here.
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Fantasy.
 
Robert_Sock said:
Manslaughter. Negligence.
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Silly. There was absolutely NO evidence that showed Z “racially profiled” or “stalked” TM in any way, shape, or form. Pure, unadulterated hearsay on your part.

The only “negligence” would have been not being prepared for the beating TM administered.

All this, including Z had HOW MANY calls to the police with no incident? The evidence of Z making repeated calls to the police “points to GZ being a vigilante” how, exactly?

It was his plan all along to make several calls to the police for suspicious people, with no confrontation in order to build a case for him shooting someone, after being assualted, later???

🤷🤷🤷
 
Robert_Sock said:
Manslaughter. Negligence.
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Manslaughter: Acquitted.

Edited to account for your last post:

More made up crimes. There is no such thing as negligent profiling or negligent following. People using a weapon to stop an attack must do so lawfully regardless of their CCW status.
 
Robert_Sock said:
TM could have easily have been the victim and never have bashed GZ’s head until after he saw GZ go for his gun.
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And you know this how? As I recall from the trial, GZ didn’t pull his weapon until after TM attacked GZ.
Robert_Sock said:
Why on earth would TM beat somebody’s head into the ground, and thereby risk life in prison, unless he felt his life was in danger?
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Why on earth would GZ shoot someone and thereby risk life in prison unless he felt his life was in danger? It goes both ways.
 
Suudy said:
And you know this how? As I recall from the trial, GZ didn’t pull his weapon until after TM attacked GZ.
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PERSPECTIVE TAKING. What’s the other person’s perspective? All you are posting is from GZ’s perspective.
 
BroomWagon said:
Let’s not forget, George Zimmerman was rejected for police service, he wasn’t a police officer, charged for hitting a woman, charged with violence towards a police officer, had to register in an alcohol program, a coworker described him as a racist, reports were that he lost his temper working security at a party and fired.

If you take all that into account, one can see he wasn’t a responsible gun owner.

Talking about killing someone who was doing NO wrong as Zimmerman being right on the money is repugnant. So you have to make excuses for it.
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Police force showed good judgment on this one rejecting Z for the police force.
I have no issue with guns but this was a no brainer; GZ should never have had a gun.

Mary.
I doubt anyone will be too overly thrilled to have him on Neighborhood Watch again given his killing already.
 
Robert_Sock said:
PERSPECTIVE TAKING. What’s the other person’s perspective? All you are posting is from GZ’s perspective.
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From what’s posted here he had Thug written all over him. Good grief.
Yep if you think someone is a THUG just shoot them ; no need to wait for the police and find out if you might have been wrong.
That is wrongola.
 
Suudy said:
And you know this how? As I recall from the trial, GZ didn’t pull his weapon until after TM attacked GZ.

Why on earth would GZ shoot someone and thereby risk life in prison unless he felt his life was in danger? It goes both ways.
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GZ SAID he didn’t pull his weapon out; probably got it out to try to detain TM.
TM no choice but to fight for his life. “Look at me I’m just like a police officer and got a suspect of my own, Yippee” Thinks GZ until he is assaulted in an attempt to save one’s life.

Not so good now as John Q public can’t wait to off him.
What comes around goes around.

It’s pure speculation either way though for TM is dead and can’t tell his side of the story.
God knows though and he is perfect justice.

GZ who beats up police officers while drunk, assaults girlfriends, trolls around following girlfriends is
Mary.
 
Robert_Sock said:
PERSPECTIVE TAKING. What’s the other person’s perspective? All you are posting is from GZ’s perspective.
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Because it’s the only perspective available. You weren’t there. The only person that can tell us what happened is GZ. And you assume he’s mistaken or lying. Any other perspective is pure speculation.
 
MaryT777 said:
GZ SAID he didn’t pull his weapon out; probably got it out to try to detain TM.
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Speculation. You say probably, but have no evidence to substantiate this claim.
MaryT777 said:
TM no choice but to fight for his life. “Look at me I’m just like a police officer and got a suspect of my own, Yippee” Thinks GZ until he is assaulted in an attempt to save one’s life.
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You presume TM’s life was threatened, but have no evidence to substantiate that claim.
MaryT777 said:
Not so good now as John Q public can’t wait to off him.
What comes around goes around.
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Very Christian attitude of you.
MaryT777 said:
It’s pure speculation either way though for TM is dead and can’t tell his side of the story.
God knows though and he is perfect justice.
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And if things happened exactly as GZ said, will you apologize to God when you meet Him?
MaryT777 said:
GZ who beats up police officers while drunk, assaults girlfriends, trolls around following girlfriends is
Mary.
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:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
MaryT777 said:
Speeding is violating the traffic laws is it not? Now we know he is still a packin’ a piece.
Mary.
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Of course, that makes him a vigilante, right? :rolleyes:

And as far as I know, speeding isn’t even a misdemeanor in most states. Minor traffic infractions does not make one a criminal.
 
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