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SyroMalankara said:
Thusly the fallacy of disunity and the self-proclaimed ‘Reformation’ is revealed. No longer does one today even bother to justify one’s stance, it is much simpler to fracture and recreate in one’s own image.
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It seems like modern Protestantism is a form of humanist relavism
 
SyroMalankara said:
Thusly the fallacy of disunity and the self-proclaimed ‘Reformation’ is revealed. No longer does one today even bother to justify one’s stance, it is much simpler to fracture and recreate in one’s own image.
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Does it bother anyone that some people need to justify themselves by denying others the sincerity and intellectual integrity they assume for themselves?
 
I would agree that the differences that divide us will never be overcome (until the second coming). But what we share in common is greater. I think we can witness together in basic ways. Last week I heard an exciting interview from pastor in London which shows that it can work. Vicar Nicky Gumbel of Holy Trinity Bromton explained how the Alpha Course is being used by all the major denominations with great success. It is a way of getting a group of seekers together to share without any pressure and not at first answering questions but just encouraging them to come back.
I was very encouraged and if anyone would like to see it and offer feedback, it can be viewed at the ITBN page and I found it by putting the guest “Nicky Gumbel” in the search box. I originally caught it by chance on the Church Channel. You can also learn more at “alpha.org”

Differences do not have to be an impediment to effective Christian witness.
 
Adamski said:
When I have shared the gospel with the completely unchurched one of their first complaints goes something like

" Christianity is to confusing with all the different options"

“Christianity can’t be true because there are so many options”

For evangelizing it would seem unity would be much better
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I had a profound evangelising experience about ten years ago, I went out door knocking in the style of the JWs. I introduced myself, as Eric from the Catholic Church, my partner introduced himself as John from the Anglican Church.

People seemed so confused, they asked us what we were doing together, a number of people wanted to engage with us and asked us questions.

This was truly a remarkable experience, I only had about ten minutes with John before we knocked on the first door, neither of us had any real understandings of the others thoughts. We just had to trust in our Lord and go.
 
I remember the ‘Renew’ group sessions that were happening in my former archdiocese.

Christ was essentially how you saw Him…and people then deciding which Catholic doctrines and morals they wanted to believe in.
 
KathleenGee said:
I remember the ‘Renew’ group sessions that were happening in my former archdiocese.

Christ was essentially how you saw Him…and people then deciding which Catholic doctrines and morals they wanted to believe in.
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Kind of like “my Jesus” in fundamentalism?
 
eazyduzit said:
Does it bother anyone that some people need to justify themselves by denying others the sincerity and intellectual integrity they assume for themselves?
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What intellectual integrity is in the phrase “believing Jesus is God is all you need”? The comment itself is vapid and jejune.
 
Another point about the poor Catholics in times past and the oppressive clerics…and irregardless, it was clericalism that brought about the split…

I am reading about the Church authorizing the killing of Jews during the Crusades.

As I continued to search…it was anti Jewish peasants in the Rheinland and Danube…incited by a Cistercian monk, and another cleric, Rudolf, who caused the peasants to rise up and kill about 2000 Jews.

There were comments in study of past liturgies in the manner the laity was receiving the Eucharist by clerics…revealing little reverence and their manner of reception…chewing Christ putting more nails into Him…

So many of them were illiterate…and then you read the various saints in how they became educated…

Nevertheless…the bibles were chained in churches because they were so expensive, 340 plus skins of sheep.

There is always another side to the story.
 
aidanbradypop said:
True and we are united in our faith in who Jesus is and His purpose for taking on flesh.
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With all due respect, there is not a united Church. There are many doctrinal differences that, in my personal opinion, don’t really amount to enough of a problem that they are important. Some of the doctrinal differences are vast and really do matter.
 
St_Pancake said:
With all due respect, there is not a united Church. There are many doctrinal differences that, in my personal opinion, don’t really amount to enough of a problem that they are important. Some of the doctrinal differences are vast and really do matter.
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With all due respect, I never said we were united as one church. Please read more carefully. 👍
 
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