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QUOTE// I guess its just me though. I’ve spent most of my life dreaming about my future bride, and being single at 19 depresses me!! 😃 //QUOTE

Sooth, good sir; cease, or all maidens in this forum shall be swooning.
I wouldn’t want that, would I? 😉

It is certainly not my intention to cause any sort of trouble amongst the ladies in this forum…I really wouldn’t want them to swoon…
I won’t cease to be honest with my motivation, however…I apoligze if that’s any sort of trouble…:o
 
The men I meet these days are all professionals and more established and want to take a lady out. I expect it and so do they. I need to see that a man can 'step up" so to speak and do these things.

Group hangouts are not so appropriate at my age, unless it’s a spontaneous meeting at a party or something…

Well, enough said…Good Luck!
Hehe, same to you. I’m a professional too, by the way, and while I do prefer to take the lady out rather than going to her house or mine (generally not done in my case), I’d rather call it hanging out than dating.
 
Well, there are all sorts of ways this discussion can go. Cans of worms too. But all interesting. Always open to learning something about dating, it being such a challenge. Since I’m kind of taking it low key for a few days and supposedly clearing out my office after a whirlwind project I’m enjoying taking a little time to read the posts on this threads…bear with my verbose tendencies…i’m worn out and need a distraction/break…talking about the miseries of dating is the only thing at hand right now…🙂

I wondered how that statement would be read. What I mean by “professional” is that whatever work they’re in they are relatively more settled at 40 than a student for example or young person going through job hopping, and have more means to take a woman out for a date. That’s true no matter what the nature of their work.

They also by 40 pretty much know who they are, where they are headed, and what they want. So less need for exploratory outings, like the bowling outing I referenced where the girl has to buy her own pizza because the guy doesn’t want her to get any “ideas” (or he’s too cheap) just joking (75%)

When I was a college student and in my early years, I was sensitive to the guy feeling pressure to spend money on me so I would arrange all sorts of activities that were free or low cost. I would contribute in ways, too, such as cooking meals and inviting a group over…of course that life presents lots of opportunities for group hang outs etc…there were times we all sat up all night talking and watched the sun rise…

But I must admit the guys I have taken seriously - I have been engaged twice and so really avoided and dated relatively less often when I was younger - as only a couple got my attention, were the ones who were willing to call me, arrange a date, take me out and pursue me openly and persistently over time. Otherwise, I was focused in on other things in life…

My first serious bf, whom I was later engaged to, suddenly decided while on the sidelines during a soccer match that he must date me after months apparently of trying to ignore me/forget me, took off with the car leaving his buddies who were on the field to find their own way home, went home and put on a suit and tie and arrived at my door a bit later in the evening (7:30?) I answered my door in my pajamas and robe having gotten comfortable to do some work at home and he asked me if I would please change as he would like to take me out to dinner.

Having known him to some degree for awhile through work I was not afraid but impressed with his boldness and agreed. We had a wonderful evening and stayed up late on my doorstep talking. The buddies never did find out what happened to him and to the car! It was our special memory.

During our “courtship” (he made it clear soon after he was hoping for marriage) we used to “hangout” and do low-cost things like strolling through fancy grocery stores and holding hands, my not being far into my career yet and conscious about spending money although he was more advanced in that way and ready to get married.

Anyway, hanging out is okay at some point down the line, but I need a guy to make a clear, direct, first move making his inentions clear or I don’t give him much thought at all. I wouldn’t waste a lot of time on any guy who wasn’t pursuing me.

Guys have tried to get my attention in more subtle ways but maybe I’m dumb and just don’t get it. One guy during graduate school started a conversation with me about a very “sweet” girl he met and on and on about how “sweet” she was and how much he liked her…Couldn’t figure out why he kept repeating himself. I told him a few times directly that was great and maybe he should get to know her better/pursue her…he finally got frustrated and stormed away and I didn’t have any clue until my male classmates laughed at me and told me he had been talking about being “in love” me for months??? Similar things have happened periodically over the years and I just don’t get why they use such odd tactics and can’t make clear to me their intentions and pursue them? Is it really that hard?

As for hanging out, I am busy as I said and I wouldn’t spend too much time on a guy who is approaching things that way.

Maybe it is a personality thing but I have a strong personality and I’m attracted to strong, decisive type men who balance out my assertive tendencies. Really, leading a timid guy around endlessly would be total misery for me and spending months encouraging him to speak up and get on with it just awful.

Anyway, got carried away and not sure I am responding relevantly to the thread as usual. Thanks for bearing with me

Feeling a bit lost in my dating at 40 world. Where’s that catalogue…or can anyone advise me on how to get one going? Maybe I could get a discount on a “starter pack.” 🙂
 
Now, if someone were to come over and ask if I caught the latest episode of Battlestar Galactica or Lost, or if I’ve gone fishing lately, who the best candidate for president it, etc that’s another thing altogether. That’s actually an interesting topic that I can go on and on about. The problem is that at a function like that, not too many people are going to be talking about “interesting” topic. For me, when I’m conversing, it’s all about the topic. The “act” of conversing or the person I’m conversing with is beside the point.*

But if we all sat around waiting for OTHERS to come to US and talk to us about what WE like, wouldn’t we all just be sitting around at tables, silent, not one person talking to another? I think it’s a fact of life that small talk is necessary, whether we like it or not.
I think using a tape recorder with a prerecorded message summarizing your current location, birthplace, education, job, and family life would be better than handing out pieces of paper. That way, you can just press “Play” and the other person will at least get to hear a human voice.
 
They also by 40 pretty much know who they are, where they are headed, and what they want. So less need for exploratory outings, like the bowling outing I referenced where the girl has to buy her own pizza because the guy doesn’t want her to get any “ideas” (or he’s too cheap) just joking (75%)

When I was a college student and in my early years, I was sensitive to the guy feeling pressure to spend money on me so I would arrange all sorts of activities that were free or low cost. I would contribute in ways, too, such as cooking meals and inviting a group over…of course that life presents lots of opportunities for group hang outs etc…there were times we all sat up all night talking and watched the sun rise…

But I must admit the guys I have taken seriously - I have been engaged twice and so really avoided and dated relatively less often when I was younger - as only a couple got my attention, were the ones who were willing to call me, arrange a date, take me out and pursue me openly and persistently over time. Otherwise, I was focused in on other things in life…
Anyway, hanging out is okay at some point down the line, but I need a guy to make a clear, direct, first move making his inentions clear or I don’t give him much thought at all. I wouldn’t waste a lot of time on any guy who wasn’t pursuing me.

Guys have tried to get my attention in more subtle ways but maybe I’m dumb and just don’t get it. One guy during graduate school started a conversation with me about a very “sweet” girl he met and on and on about how “sweet” she was and how much he liked her…Couldn’t figure out why he kept repeating himself. I told him a few times directly that was great and maybe he should get to know her better/pursue her…he finally got frustrated and stormed away and I didn’t have any clue until my male classmates laughed at me and told me he had been talking about being “in love” me for months??? Similar things have happened periodically over the years and I just don’t get why they use such odd tactics and can’t make clear to me their intentions and pursue them? Is it really that hard?

As for hanging out, I am busy as I said and I wouldn’t spend too much time on a guy who is approaching things that way.

Maybe it is a personality thing but I have a strong personality and I’m attracted to strong, decisive type men who balance out my assertive tendencies. Really, leading a timid guy around endlessly would be total misery for me and spending months encouraging him to speak up and get on with it just awful.

Anyway, got carried away and not sure I am responding relevantly to the thread as usual. Thanks for bearing with me

Feeling a bit lost in my dating at 40 world. Where’s that catalogue…or can anyone advise me on how to get one going? Maybe I could get a discount on a “starter pack.” 🙂
Your post made me laugh because i agree with it and i am only 28! I need a man who atleast lets me know he is interested and then makes a clear move. Otherwise how am i suppose to know? I am horrible at reading signals and since i am always the friend and never the girlfriend, i tend to not read too far into things. I need the man to make clear moves. Such as “beckers lets go on a date or beckers i think your interesting and i want to get to know you better.”

I love hanging out with people but I don’t consider that dating. To date there needs to be a clear discussions on the status of the relationship. I am an active single and have no problem doing things on my own (ie go to the movies, concerts etc.) so just because we start hanging out and doing these things together doesn’t mean we are a dating item. I need clear knowledge of your intentions.
 
I wish I wasn’t single & can’t wait to meet my future husband but all in God’s timing 🙂 Perhaps he needs to work in me so I can grow in faith, hope & love so I can be a worthy wife to someone someday.

I’m so excited for marriage-
to give myself totally to someone to learn to become selfless
to have them help me grow in holiness and love and to help each other grow in faith and love for Christ.
To work as a team to further God’s Kingdom
To trust in each other completely
Can’t think of anything that would make me happier!:o For now all I can do is keep praying for him- God will take care of the rest
 
Thanks for the feedback. I am glad I am not the only one who sees it this way. Wondered if I was in my own private universe on this subject.

I’m getting more knowledgeable about dating and what approach I should take based on my own needs after opening up and starting to talk about it.

I agree - dating is pursuing a potential relationship - no promises, but definite interest and forward direction. Hanging out is just friends and ok if I have time and on my schedule…ha ha…I’m so in demand - just kidding…the President is on line 1. Seriously, like most women, I am busy happy and have a full life. So go bowling with someone else - I don’t like pizza anyway…here’s a coupon…go for it…

It occurred to me that dating is more about weeding out than on acquiring “leads.” That sounds horrible. What I mean is it is important for me to know what I want, need and am looking for…of course based on proper spiritual teaching and motives…it is actually productive to actively weed out ones who don’t present those things so as to not invest time and energy unneccesarily and get diverted from meeting people who might be compatible…and of course to avoid getting hurt, potentially very deeply…learned from hard life experience…or from becoming compromised and such…

So one of those helpful criteria is their initiating/pursuing behaviors. If they are not present, the guy is an acquaintance/possible friend and I push the button and he is magically channelled down a dark hallway…ha ha…if he wants out of the hallway he has to pick up the hotline and dial “1-800-A-DATE”…otherwise he can sit there and contemplate his behavior…🙂

I have posted so much on here I am afraid I am due for some kind of backlash.

Really, I drafted up a “dating manifesto” writing down some of the wisdom I am getting from other women and from reading Catholic resources that helps guide me in navigating relationships with men. Women have to get and keep their power if you know what I mean…of course, we still want to be open to love which requires vulnerability…but actually by having some criteria, some wisdom, we guard our hearts and make ourselves more able to love when the right guy does present himself…

Whew! I’m on a kick apparently!

Oh, I’m looking into the $39.95 dating “starter pack.” I’ll let you guys know how it works out. Know you’ll be wanting to know more…
 
“starter pack”?

weird…lol

To tell you the truth I could seriously use a date at this point…even if it was just with a friend…

I haven’t talked to anyone (save my family) in three days!

None of my friends are anywhere! Not online, not calling!

I’m incredibly bored ATM…lol
 
Sorry, just being quirky, prior reference in earlier posts…humor doesn’t always translate online. Just poking fun at the ridiculous aspect of it all sometimes…
 
To tell you the truth I could seriously use a date at this point…even if it was just with a friend…

I haven’t talked to anyone (save my family) in three days!

None of my friends are anywhere! Not online, not calling!

I’m incredibly bored ATM…lol
Amen to that. Frustrating part is I’m getting all sorts of date requests from the guys around me but…we’ll say that they have a much more liberal view on sex. ugh!
 
Amen to that. Frustrating part is I’m getting all sorts of date requests from the guys around me but…we’ll say that they have a much more liberal view on sex. ugh!
Major UGH

Guys are annoying…Unfortunately God made me one of them…😉
Nah, I like being a guy…I just don’t like being like the rest of 'em!

anyways…
Its so annoyingly boring here at home…

I need some more social time…I went out with a friend (a girl…NOT a date) on Sunday (the one before last) and I’m already wanting to go do something!! I’m usually lucky if I get to do anything in months, not weeks!
 
Just my gist of following this thread for awhile.

Does it seem that there is a huge communication gap or is it just me?

If so why is that? Probably a good idea for another thread.

God’s servant,
John Anthony
 
Just my gist of following this thread for awhile.

Does it seem that there is a huge communication gap or is it just me?

If so why is that? Probably a good idea for another thread.

God’s servant,
John Anthony
Communication gap as in…? There’s no communication between men and women on what they are seeking in a relationship?
 
Communication gap as in…? There’s no communication between men and women on what they are seeking in a relationship?
I have not a clue as to what he’s saying…

Is he talking about HERE or what? No idea…

Anyways…to stay relatively on topic, I’ll state that I’ve got a bunch of friend over the age of 18 (dating age around here) and I don’t recall any of them having girlfriends (or boyfriends) at any point…
I’m not even sure if any have been out on a date…

THough I’m guessing that’s likely
 
Sorry for not being more clear.
Communication in dating or even just relating; sex to opposite sex.

God’s servant,
John Anthony
 
As a single Catholic woman I believe if God wanted me to marry He would somehow bring me together with my partner. It has never happened and at 35 I now feel that God wishes me to remain single, which has been difficult to accept. Apart from being lonely at times I feel I have disappointed my family by not marrying and providing grandchildren. I feel I am not accepted so readily by work colleagues and my community because I am alone. I am independent because I have to be.

Having accepted that I will always be single it annoys me a bit when people start with the platitudes…your one of these career girls are you…the right mans just around the corner…it will be your turn next…just wait until you have children running around…they don’t realise how hurtful they are being. So if any of you wives and mothers are reading this remember the next time you are talking to your single friends don’t start with the well meant cliches…its not always helpful.
 
I wouldn’t mind finding a nice man, but I am quite happy alone and frankly my former marriage scarred me deeply.
Yes, mine did too. What comes to mind is the saying that second marriage is the triumph of hope over experience. I guess I am a bit short on hope.

I’ve been divorced for nine years, and have been told that I wouldn’t have any trouble getting an annulment, but I haven’t filed for it. I just have had no interest in dating.
As a single Catholic woman I believe if God wanted me to marry He would somehow bring me together with my partner. It has never happened and at 35 I now feel that God wishes me to remain single, which has been difficult to accept. Apart from being lonely at times I feel I have disappointed my family by not marrying and providing grandchildren. I feel I am not accepted so readily by work colleagues and my community because I am alone. I am independent because I have to be.
I think the 30s must be a difficult time to be single. So many of your peers have families, its hard to fit in without seeming like a fifth wheel. We weren’t able to have children, and similarly recieved a lot of well meaning, but hurtful, platitudes. And found ourselves left out of discussions and events which often centered on kids. Now, I’m well into middle age, and this is less of a problem.
 
Because I’m middle-aged (41), heavy, not very pretty, and introverted. (I can be bubbly and funny and the like, but I need a LOT of alone time and I have bouts of social anxiety.) I’m also a bit battle-scarred by my first marriage and other rejections. There are almost no single Catholic men at my parish.

I’m starting to think (and get more comfortable with the idea) that I will be alone for the rest of my life. Not only are my prospects dim, but I’m getting set in my ways and getting used to being on my own.

The really frustrating part is I would LOVE to be a housewife. I *loathe *having an office job (I’ve never liked any of my post-college jobs) and I love to do all the stereotypical housewifely things. Obviously, that’s an impossible goal without a husband, and… doesn’t seem likely.

Alas.

Francesca
 
I feel perfectly comfortable out in the world, single working folks around more commonly…and I have a circle of single women friends…

I feel invisible in my parish, though. Every homily starts with a “funny” story about small children and their “funny” antics…yawn…, only married people can bring up the gifts, do the readings and such. In two years noone has every approached me for any kind of contact. I did try to start a few conversations on hospitality days and such but people didn’t know what to say when I said I had no children. There were awkward silences. People give me really weird handshakes (you know the tip of the finger and really limp wrists) when I try to smile and give the sign of the peace. It’s like going back in time 1000 years or something…?

Two or three years in a row I filled out the questionnaire on service in detail and offered to volunteer for several ministries, which were supposedly in serious need of help but never heard back…I finally called the Social Ministry coordinator in a response to an ad requesting volunteers for the soup kitchen on a certain date and they acted mystified and told me they didn’t need my help - ever! (you guessed it the senior married couples filled every spot).

Every position in the parish is filled with a married person, usually a senior.

There are regular acknowledgements of all these seniors marriage milestones at announcement time and we all clap. I’m happy for them of course but you’re starting to get the picture…it’s almost comical.

The priest is very awkward with single women (he’s 45) and completely avoids all communication and eye contact (I must be a desperate female and therefore dangerous?) although I do manage periodically to wade through the throngs of senior couples who surround him enjoying jovial conversation to shake his hand for politeness sake, but I have to wait respectfully for long periods of time until the seniors pause long enough for me to awkwardly push forward and give a brief handshake.

Anyway, I go there and get the sacraments and pray. Don’t really need to find best friends there. Have been given a recommendation by someone here for a new parish in my city and may need to try it out, but who wants to be a parish hopper and also start all over in a new place? Sounds like a good option, though…
 
Because according to most of my exes I’m not pretty enough to deserve a relationship. But really I’m not a very good person and people shouldn’t have to put up with me. There was only one person who I really felt a strong connection with, and I haven’t found that in anybody else.
You’ll find the connection.
Prayers help!

I think if you think you’re not a very good person, then you can at least try to change that. However, I think you’re just being overly critical of yourself. 😃

I think your exes should be smacked upside the head, too.
It’s hard to put that sort of thing aside. In high school (lo these many years ago) a guy told a pretty friend of mine she should not walk down the street with me because I was so ugly. In response, a well-meaning male friend said, “It will get better when we’re adults and looks don’t matter so much.” Uh, thanks. Unfortunately he wasn’t entirely correct. And 20-odd years later I still sometimes think of that incident.
 
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