For those who claim to know God

[Sam_777]

Well hamba2han that is a good post, I think Deuteronomy 33:1-2 might be more convenience than the Paracletos claim, but let us investigate it more:

This is what’s written in the Bible commentaries that I found:

1) Matthew Henry Concise Edition:
“Verses 1-5 To all his precepts, warnings, and prophecies, Moses added a solemn blessing. He begins with a description of the glorious appearances of God, in giving the law. His law works like fire. If received, it is melting, warming, purifying, and burns up the dross of corruption; if rejected, it hardens, sears, pains, and destroys. The Holy Spirit came down in cloven tongues, as of fire; for the gospel also is a fiery law. The law of God written in the heart, is a certain proof of the love of God shed abroad there: we must reckon His law one of the gifts of his grace.”
(R)

2) Dr. Constable Commentary:
"*After a brief introduction of the blessing (v. 1), Moses began by presenting God. He pictured Him as the source of all blessing in the figure of the sun rising on His people gathered at Sinai. The sun is the source of physical blessing. Seir (v. 2) refers to the mountain range in Edom over which the sun would apparently rise as seen from Sinai. Paran (v. 2) refers to the mountains near Kadesh Barnea that separated the Sinai wilderness from Canaan.

"The stylized or formulaic nature of such historical résumés allows them to depart from normal patterns of narration in which strict adherence to chronological and geographical sequence is expected. Thus the Lord could come from Sinai and appear from Seir and Paran at the same time, or at least without reference to actual historical movement which, of course, would necessitate the order Sinai, Paran, and Seir (cf. Num 10:12; 13:3, 26; 20:14; 21:4; Deut 1:19; 2:4). The real point here in v. 2 is that the Lord manifested himself gloriously to his people from his earthly dwelling places or at least his usual places of self-disclosure, namely, mountaintops."349

The “holy ones” (v. 2) are probably angels. Moses described God as accompanied by His countless angelic servants as He revealed His law to Israel at Sinai.350*"
(R)

3) Dr. Bob Utley Commentary:
"*33:2 This describes a revelatory appearance of YHWH to Israel (i.e., theophany). This awesome encounter between the divine and humans was terrifying (cf. Exodus 19; Ps. 50:2-3). YHWH’s presence was continued in the form of the special cloud (i.e, Shekinah cloud of glory). YHWH came and stayed with His people from Mt. Sinai/Horeb until they crossed the Jordan. Even then, His special presence was with the Ark, above the wings of the cherubim.

It is obvious from this verse that YHWH is seen as associated with mountains (cf. I Kgs. 20:23,28).

1. Moriah (Gen. 22:2; II Chr. 3:1, site of the temple)
2. Mt. Sinai/Horeb (Exodus 19-20)
3. Mt. Seir (here, Jdgs. 5:4)
4. Mt. Paran (here, Hab. 3:3)
5. Ebal/Gerizim (27:4; Josh. 8:30-33)
6. Tabor (Jdgs. 4:4; 5:5)
7. Carmel (I Kgs. 18:20-39; II Kgs. 4:25-27)
8. Perazim (II Sam. 5:20; Isa. 28:21)
9. Mt. Zion (Isa. 2:1-4; Mic. 4:1-4; Ps. 68:16, name for Jerusalem)
10. Mt. Nebo (Deuteronomy 34, to Moses only)

*** “Sinai”*** This is the place of the giving of the Law. It is called Sinai (BDB 696) only here in Deuteronomy. It is usually called Horeb (BDB 352). See Special Topic: The Location of Mt. Sinai at 1:2.
*** “Seir”** This name (BDB 973) has several different referents in the OT:

1. It can refer to the land of Edom - Gen. 32:3; 36:30; Num. 24:18; Deut. 1:44; 2:8,12,22,29; 33:1; Josh. 11:17; Jdgs. 5:4.
2. It can refer to a mountain/hill in Edom - Gen. 36:8-9; Deut. 1:2; 2:14; Josh. 24:4.
3. It can refer to a people - Gen. 36:20-30; II Chr. 25:11,14; Ezek. 25:8 (of Edom)
4. It can refer to a mountain/hill in Judah - Josh. 15:10(?). 354

*** “Mount Paran”** This is the mountain range (BDB 803) close to the plains of Moab (cf. 1:1) on the west side of Arabah, down the west side of the Gulf of Aqaba.

Perhaps this listing is of the travel of the children of Israel as they left Sinai going into the Promised Land (also can be a wilderness, cf. Num. 10:12; 12:16; 13:3,26). God was saying that He had been with them throughout the wanderings and He was still with them.

NASB “the midst of ten thousand holy ones”
NKJV “with ten thousands of saints”
NRSV “myriads of holy ones”
TEV “ten thousand angels were with him”
NJB ----------

The MT here has “Ribeboth-Kodesh.” Deuteronomy 32:51 translates similar consonants as “Meribah-Kadesh. This could refer to (1) a place name or (2) “angels” (cf. Dan. 7:10; Rev. 5:11) or “saints” (cf. v. 3;7:6; 14:2; 26:19; 28:9). Rabbis use this as text to assert the intermediary role of angels (cf. Acts 7:53; Gal.3:19; Heb. 2:2).

NASB “flashing lightning”
NKJV “a fiery law”
NRSV “a host of his own”
TEV “a flaming fire”
NJB “blazed forth”

Literally this is “fiery law” (BDB 77 and 206). However, in this context it refers to the coming glory of the brilliance of YHWH’s glory (cf. Isa. 60:1-3)."
(R)

If any if our fellow Catholics can show us additional commentaries, I would appreciate it.

Now fellow hamba2han, after reading the above commentaries, don’t you think its odd to link that to Muhammed’s 10,000 fighters when they marched toward Makkah, don’t you think its just coincidence!, however, I would have agreed with you if Muhammed didn’t contradict Jesus teaching.

 

[hamba2han]

… Your flawed and repeatedly debunked theories have been done to death, havent you got anything new?

I have not mentioned the prophecy in Jude 1:14-15 before.

And so then, a new prophecy in the New Testament would surely qualify as being something new, shouldn’t it?

 

[hamba2han]

Very good. Now I ask you, do you know who were the 240,000 prophets before Mohammad?

Actually, it is more like 124,000 prophets before Muhammad (pbuh).

Most of them are not mentioned by name but what is definitely known is that only a few of them like Prophet Ishmael (pbuh) and Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) are reported to have lived in the area formerly known by it’s ancient name of Paran.

And so, that would narrow down considerably the list of candidates for which group are being referred to as the “ten thousands of saints” in the prophecies found in both Deuteronomy and Jude.

 

[hamba2han]

… The “holy ones” (v. 2) are probably angels. Moses described God as accompanied by His countless angelic servants as He revealed His law to Israel at Sinai.350

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(R)
"And this [is] the blessing, wherewith Moses the man of God blessed the children of Israel before his death. And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand [went] a fiery law for them." … Deuteronomy 33:1-2

Who exactly are being referred to as “them” in the part about “a fiery law for them”?

Are you saying that this “fiery law” has been sent down for these “angels” to adhere to?

And what indeed is this “fiery law” exactly?

… don’t you think its odd to link that to Muhammed’s 10,000 fighters when they marched toward Makkah, don’t you think its just coincidence!..

’Coincidences’ and actual ‘prophecies’ which are specifically mentioned in BOTH the Old and New Testaments do not make a good mix.

 

[hamba2han]

Just to clarify here that Muslims revere the companions of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) because of the absolute faith and dedication that they had to live their lives 100% in accordance with the commands of the Lord and subsequently their unhesitant willingness to sacrifice just about everything they had for the sake of their Creator.

The Qur’an has this to say about them:

"And the foremost to embrace Islam of the Muhajireen and the Ansar and also those who followed them in goodness, Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. Allah has prepared for them gardens under which rivers flow (Paradise) to dwell therein forever. That is the supreme success." … [Surah At-Tawbah: 100]

The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said: “The best of mankind is my generation, then those that come after them, then those that come after them.” Reported by Al-Bukhaaree, Muslim and others from the report of 'Imraan Ibn Husayn and 'Abdullaah Ibn Mas’ood, may Allah be pleased with both of them.

In Biblical terms, they were indeed the ‘tens of thousands of saints’ who were blessed by their Lord and I would think that Christians who say that they believe in the Bible really would have no choice in the matter but to believe in the truth of this prophecy about the coming of “ten thousands of saints” because it is found in BOTH the Old and New Testaments.

Remember that these ‘saints’ are the real deal because they have been acknowledged and blessed by God Almighty Himself and not merely the ordinary “Saints” (with a capital ‘S’) who have been beatified by the Church.

The following two links would help explain who these “ten thousands of saints” were and why they mean so much to Muslims → 1 & 2.

I would say that the good news for Christians is that since the prophecy of both Deuteronomy 33:1-2 and Jude 1:14-15 about the coming of “ten thousands of saints” have indeed been fulfilled, this certainly goes a long way towards proving yet again the truth of the Bible.

And when you examine both the Qur’an and the Bible, you will see that the Bible does NOT at all contradict the Qur’an… except in the instances where the Bible contradicts itself.

As with most things in life, we need to follow where the evidence takes us in our search for the true path to salvation.

And considering that what is at stake is nothing less than our eternal fate in the Hereafter, then I really cannot imagine wanting to follow a plan of salvation that BOTH my heart and my head cannot agree on.

 

[hamba2han]

There is considerable evidence from the Bible that Prophet Abraham (peace be upon him) built a “house of God”.

Psalm 138:2
I will bow down toward your holy temple and will praise your name for your love and your faithfulness, for you have exalted above all things your name and your word.

Genesis 28:16-18
16 When Jacob awoke from his sleep, he thought, “Surely the LORD is in this place, and I was not aware of it.”
17 He was afraid and said, “How awesome is this place! This is none other than the house of God; this is the gate of heaven.”
18 Early the next morning Jacob took the stone he had placed under his head and set it up as a pillar and poured oil on top of it.

Judges 20:18
18 The Israelites went up to Bethel (the House of GOD in Hebrew) and inquired of God. They said, “Who of us shall go first to fight against the Benjamites?” The LORD replied, "Judah shall go first."

1 Chronicles 6:47-49
47 the son of Mahli, the son of Mushi, the son of Merari, the son of Levi.
48 Their fellow Levites were assigned to all the other duties of the tabernacle, the house of God.
49 But Aaron and his descendants were the ones who presented offerings on the altar of burnt offering and on the altar of incense in connection with all that was done in the Most Holy Place, making atonement for Israel, in accordance with all that Moses the servant of God had commanded.

GOD Almighty’s “holy temple” in Islam is the Ka’ba in Makkah.

Surah Al Hajj (the pilgrimage) 22:26-27
26. Behold! We gave the site, to Abraham, of the (Sacred) House, (saying): "Associate not anything (in worship) with Me; and sanctify My House for those who compass it round, or stand up, or bow, or prostrate themselves (therein in prayer).
27. "And proclaim the Pilgrimage among men: they will come to thee on foot and (mounted) on every kind of camel, lean on account of journeys through deep and distant mountain highways; "

If Christians and Jews say that it is NOT the Ka’ba that the above Biblical verses are referring to, then pray tell → What and where exactly is this “house of God” that Prophet David (pbuh) would “bow down toward” as written in Psalm 138:2 above?

 

[Muslim_Woman]

…Why are these “angels” choosing Mount Paran to descend from on that Day??.. Is it not far more logical for them to descend on Jerusalem instead?

Interesting & thought provoking
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[ralphinal]

So Jude is ok because you will force it to apply to Muhammed, but Jesus was a lier when he warned of false teachers? Paul was a lier when he warned of the devil acting like an angel of Light to preach the false Gosple? Look. the day anything good in the Bible applies to Muhammed and his false religion is the day monkeys fly out of my behind.

 

[inJESUS]

If the Kaba was the house of God, why did Muhammad order his followers to face Jerusalem?

 

[inJESUS]

Psalm 138:2

I will bow down toward your holy temple and will praise your name for your love and your faithfulness, for you have exalted above all things your name and your word.and David bowed down to the Kaaba right? and nobody discovered it but Muslims.

Genesis 28:16-18

16 When Jacob awoke from his sleep, he thought, “Surely the LORD is in this place, and I was not aware of it.”
17 He was afraid and said, "How awesome is this place! This is none other than the house of God; this is the gate of heaven."
18 Early the next morning Jacob took the stone he had placed under his head and set it up as a pillar and poured oil on top of it.Then he had a dream: a stairway rested on the ground, with its top reaching to the heavens; and God’s messengers were going up and down on it.
13
And there was the LORD standing beside him and saying: “I, the LORD, am the God of your forefather Abraham and the God of Isaac; **the land on which you are lying I will give to you and your descendants. **
14
These shall be as plentiful as the dust of the earth, and through them you shall spread out east and west, north and south. In you and your descendants all the nations of the earth shall find blessing.
15
Know that I am with you; I will protect you wherever you go, and bring you back to this land. I will never leave you until I have done what I promised you.”
16
When Jacob awoke from his sleep, he exclaimed, “Truly, the LORD is in this spot, although I did not know it!”

The land in the above passage is surely not Saudi Arabia since the path between Beer-sheba and Haran does not pass through the Kaaba.

Judges 20:18

18 The Israelites went up to Bethel (the House of GOD in Hebrew) and inquired of God. They said, “Who of us shall go first to fight against the Benjamites?” The LORD replied, "Judah shall go first."Bethel is a town in Palestine.

1 Chronicles 6:47-49

47 the son of Mahli, the son of Mushi, the son of Merari, the son of Levi.
48 Their fellow Levites were assigned to all the other duties of the tabernacle, the house of God.
49 But Aaron and his descendants were the ones who presented offerings on the altar of burnt offering and on the altar of incense in connection with all that was done in the Most Holy Place, making atonement for Israel, in accordance with all that Moses the servant of God had commanded.“Then Solomon began to build the temple of the LORD in Jerusalem ON MOUNT MORIAH, where the LORD had appeared to his father David.” 2 Chronicles 3:1

“Sometime later God tested Abraham. He said to him, then, ‘Abraham!’ ‘Here I am,’ he replied. Then God said, ‘Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, **and go to the region of Moriah. **Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about.’ Early the next morning Abraham got up and saddled his donkey. He took with him two of his servants and his son Isaac. And he had cut enough wood fort he burnt offering, he sat out for the place that God had told him about. On the third day Abraham looked up and saw the place in the distance… Isaac spoke up and said to his father Abraham, ‘Father?’ ‘Yes, my son?’ Abraham replied. ‘The fire and wood are here,’ Isaac said, ‘but where is the lamb for the burnt offering?’ Abraham answered, ‘God himself will provide the lamb for the burnt offering, my son.’ Abraham looked up and there in the thicket he saw a ram caught by its horns. He went over and took the ram and sacrificed as a burnt offering instead of his son. So Abraham called THAT PLACE The LORD Will Provide. And to this day it is said, ‘On the mountain of the LORD it will be provided.’” Genesis 22:1-4, 7-8, 13-14

the Temple in Jerusalem was built in the same area where Abraham offered up Isaac and the Bible you are quoting is more than clear it is not the Kaaba.

Next.

 

[hamba2han]

‘Bethel’ is the Hebrew word for ‘house of God’.

The fact that there is a town in Palestine called Bethel is no more significant than the fact that there is a place called Mount Sinai in Egypt.

Remember that during the time of Prophet Jacob and also of Prophet David (peace be upon them), neither the Temple of Solomon nor the town of Bethel in Palestine even existed yet.

And so, just because these particular names were given to these two places at a much later period in history does not at all mean that there really is a ‘house of God’ in the town of Bethel and neither does it mean that the true location of Mount Sinai is in the Sinai Peninsula.

 

[inJESUS]

‘Bethel’ is the Hebrew word for ‘house of God’.

The fact that there is a town in Palestine called Bethel is no more significant than the fact that there is a place called Mount Sinai in Egypt.

Now the **town **of Bethel had sent Sharezer and Regemmelech and their men to seek the favor of the LORD. Zechariah 7:2

I mean, are their limits to absurdity?

 

[dolphinlove]

I mean, are their limits to absurdity?

In Islam… no.

 

[hamba2han]

Now the **town **of Bethel had sent Sharezer and Regemmelech and their men to seek the favor of the LORD. Zechariah 7:2

I mean, are their limits to absurdity?

There is approximately a 1,000-year diference between the time of Prophet David and that of Prophet Zechariah (peace be upon them).

Therefore, the existence of the town of Bethel at the time of Prophet Zechariah (pbuh) does NOT at all prove that it existed at the time of Prophet David (pbuh), what more at the time of Prophet Jacob (pbuh) who lived 1,800 or so years before Zechariah.

 

[hamba2han]

When trying to determine (1) the identity of the “ten thousands of saints” referred to in both Deuteronomy 33:1-2 and in Jude 1:14-15, and also (2) the location of the “holy temple/house of God” referred to in Psalm 138:2, Genesis 28:16-18, Judges 20:18 and 1 Chronicles 6:47-49, we need to do a bit of detective work in order to arrive at the most probable answer and therefore it might be a good idea for us to adopt the following methodology used by one of the best known detectives in history whenever he carried out his own investigations:

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." … Sherlock Holmes

While the definition of ‘faith’ itself means that we cannot be 100% certain of our beliefs, nevertheless these are the reasons why I believe that it is extremely unlikely that these “ten thousands of saints” can be either of the following:

Angels – it certainly cannot mean angels because the “fiery law” surely cannot be meant for them and furthermore, it really does not make any sense at all, especially from a Christian perspective, that these angels will be emerging from Mount Paran instead of Jerusalem on the Day of Judgment.

Israelites – it most surely cannot be them who God has called ‘saints’ because they refused to obey the command of the Lord and were consequently sentenced to wander in the wilderness for forty years.

And therefore, once we have eliminated these two candidates for this position of “ten thousands of saints” in the Biblical prophecy, then who are we left with, however improbable it may seem to Christians, when we examine and analyse the evidence objectively?

If Christians say that the companions of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) who liberated Makkah from the pagan idol-worshippers cannot be these “ten thousands of saints”, then what exactly are their reasons to disqualify them from being these ‘saints’ that the Bible refers to?

Similarly, if we apply the methodology of Sherlock Holmes in eliminating all that is impossible when determining the location of the “holy temple/house of God”, then since it is clear that the Temple of Solomon CANNOT be the ‘house of God’, then what other structure is there to be found that qualifies for the title of ‘house of God’ as referred to in the Bible?

 

[hamba2han]

If Prophet Abraham (peace be upon him) lived in Egypt, as what Christians and Jews claim, then there is something wrong with the following verse of the Bible:

And he dealt well with Abram for her sake; and he had sheep, and oxen, and he-asses, and men-servants, and maid-servants, and she-asses, and camels. … Genesis 12:16

You see, the archaeological fact is that NO camel remains are to be found in Egypt at anywhere near the time that Abraham (pbuh) is supposed to have received them as a gift from Pir’u, King of Mitzraim. Nor does Egyptian art of the period depict the camel as it does the other animals given to Abraham.

The evidence is clear from the Biblical account alone, Abraham could NOT have entered Egypt, the ONLY place he could have obtained his camels was Arabia. And Mitzraim could not possibly have been Egypt, ALL the evidence points to it being a region in Arabia.

To read more, kindly click on the following image.

biblemysteries.com/images/camels1.jpg

 

[hamba2han]

Isaiah 42
8 "I am the LORD ; that is my name! I will not give my glory to another or my praise to idols.
9 See, the former things have taken place, and new things I declare; before they spring into being I announce them to you."

Song of Praise to the Lord
**10 Sing to the LORD a new song, his praise from the ends of the earth, you who go down to the sea, and all that is in it, you islands, and all who live in them.
11 Let the desert and its towns raise their voices; let the settlements where Kedar lives rejoice. Let the people of Sela sing for joy; let them shout from the mountaintops. **

Kedar is the son of Ishmael (peace be upon him): "These are the names of the sons of Ishmael, listed in the order of their birth: Nebaioth the firstborn of Ishmael, Kedar, Adbeel, Mibsam, (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 25:13)"

The “settlements where Kedar lives” is referring to the Arabs. The Arabs before Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) were pagans. They used to worship idols. They had 360 idols in the Holy City of Makkah.

GOD Almighty in Isaiah 42:11 is clearly saying that He will send the people of Kedar (i.e., the Arabs) a Prophet and they should “rejoice” and “raise their voices” in happiness.

Also, “Let the desert and its towns raise their voices;” is clearly referring to Arabia, since Arabia is known to be made of mostly deserts. Jerusalem was never called “desert”, nor the Jews were ever called the people of “Kedar”.

 

[hamba2han]

Speaking of the chapter of Isaiah, here is another related prophecy found in the Bible:

Isaiah
60:1 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee.
60:2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.
60:3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.
60:4 Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side.
60:5 Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee.
60:6 The multitude of camels shall cover thee, the dromedaries of Midian and Ephah; all they from Sheba shall come: they shall bring gold and incense; and they shall shew forth the praises of the LORD.
60:7 All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory.

In Isaiah 60:1-7, A prophecy about a Holy man (prophet) bringing the light of God to the world. This holy man would appear in a time of darkness filling the world and covering the earth, He would appear to eliminate the darkness and spread the light of God and his praises.

In Isaiah 60:3, we read "And the Gentiles shall come to thy light ", and that means this Holy Prophet would arise among the Gentiles and his Light would fill his place where the nations would come and visit.

In Isaiah 60:4, we find the people would come from far, the sons and daughters, all would come together for the Light.

In Isaiah 60:5-6, it keeps telling us about the coming of the people from all over the world to the Light… and the part about the “multitude of camels” is a clear indication of the general location from where the ‘Holy man/Prophet’ would be emerging from. → (Refer to my previous post about the abundant presence of camels in Arabia and conversely the absence of in Egypt)

In Isaiah 60:7, is the clear meaning, it’s Kedar (Makkah) , Where its flocks and tribes would be gathered together under the light of God, “they would come up with acceptance on mine altar” (Note: Muslims during the Hajj “pilgrimage” they slaughter the sacrifices as one of the ceremonies and Muslims all over the world share that from their places which is called Eid Al Adha).

"And I Will glorify the house of my glory", and it refers to the Ka’ba in Makkah , the Sacred House for God’s glory.

And this prophecy is also mentioned in the Qur’an and hence affirming once again what I said previously about the Bible not contradicting the Qur’an… except in the places where it contradicts itself.

Surah Al Hajj (the pilgrimage),
**26. Behold! We gave the site, to Abraham, of the (Sacred) House, (saying): "Associate not anything (in worship) with Me; and sanctify My House for those who compass it round, or stand up, or bow, or prostrate themselves (therein in prayer).
27. "And proclaim the Pilgrimage among men: they will come to thee on foot and (mounted) on every kind of camel, lean on account of journeys through deep and distant mountain highways; " ** … (The Noble Quran, 22:26-27)

And so, we can see here that another Biblical prophecy has been fulfilled and therefore going a long way towards proving yet again the truth of the Bible.

Christians really should be happy knowing this.

 

[inJESUS]

If Christians say that the companions of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) who liberated Makkah from the pagan idol-worshippers cannot be these “ten thousands of saints”, then what exactly are their reasons to disqualify them from being these ‘saints’ that the Bible refers to?

we gave other passages from the same Bible you quote identifying them as angels but since you cannot digest that your argument is refuted by the same source you quote, i’ll throw the ball to you and wait for you to give me one Islamic reference mentioning ten thousandSSSSS of saints. Not 10 thousand, but thousandSSS, and you surely know the difference. If you cannot, i’ll kindly ask you to starting thinking of a better argument.

 

[inJESUS]

You see, the archaeological fact is that NO camel remains are to be found in Egypt at anywhere near the time that Abraham (pbuh) is supposed to have received them as a gift from Pir’u, King of Mitzraim.
To read more, kindly click on the following image.

instead of copying everything without checking, using ‘old data’ and not keeping up with the information, maybe you must check the updated views . Every now and then a “scholar” presents an argument that archeology refutes later and your copy/paste is not different.
In the case of the camel, there is an abundance of data in ANE studies to show that the camel had been domesticated for a millenium or two BEFORE Abraham.

Bulliet references:

A 3.5 ft cord of camel hair from Egypt, dated around 2500 BC. Buillet believes it is “from the land of Punt, perhaps the possession of a slave or captive, and from a domestic camel”
The bronze figurine from the temple of Byblos in Lebanon. It is in a foundation with strong Egyptian flavoring, and is dated before the sixth Egyptian dynasty (before 2182 BC). Although the figure could be taken as a sheep, the figure is arranged with items that would strongly require it to be a camel (e.g., a camel saddle, camel muzzle, etc.)
Two pots of Egyptian provenance were found in Greece and Crete, both dating 1800-1400 BC, but both in area so far removed from the range of the camel as to suggest its presence in the intermediate areas (e.g., Syria or Egypt) during an earlier time. Both have camels represented, and one literally has humans riding on a camel back.
A final piece of strong evidence is textual from Alalakh in Syria, as opposed to archaeological: a textual ration-list. There is a entry for ‘camel fodder’ written in Old Babylonian. “Not only does this attest the existence of camels in norther Syria at this time, but the animal involved is clearly domestic.” [HI:TCAW:64].

“Abraham did not want his son to marry a Canaanite, so he sent his servant to Paddan Aram (as the Haran region of north Mesopotamia is called) to secure a bride for Isaac. With ten camels and adequate personnel, the servant heads the caravan towards his master’s Aramean kinsmen. The mention of camels here and elsewhere in the patriarchal narratives often is considered anachronistic. However, the correctness of the Bible is supported by the representation of camel riding on seal cylinders of precisely this period from northern Mesopotamia” [Gordon/Rendsburg, in BANE:120-12]. (They refer the reader to the illustrations in the journal Iraq 6, 1939, pl. II, p. And to the general discussion in Journal of Near Eastern Studies 3, 1944, pp. 187-93.)

"It is often asserted that the mention of camels and of their use is an anachronism in Genesis. This charge is simply not true, as there is both philological and archaeological evidence for knowledge and use of this animal in the early second millenium BC and even earlier. While a possible reference to camels in a fodder-list from Alalakh (c. eighteenth century BC) has been disputed, the great Mesopotamian lexical lists that originated in the Old Babylonian period show a knowledge of the camel c. 2000/17000 BC, including its domestication. Furthermore, a Sumerian text from Nippur from the same early period gives clear evidence of domestication of the camel by then, by its allusions to camel’s milk…For the early and middle second millennium BC, only limited use is presupposed by either the biblical or external evidence until the twelfth century BC. " [Kitchen in AOOT:79-80]

In an article that appeared in the Journal of Near Eastern Studies a half-century ago, professor Joseph Free listed several instances of Egyptian archaeological finds supporting the domestication of camels [NOTE: The dates given for the Egyptian dynasties are from Clayton, 2001, pp.14-68]. The earliest evidence comes from a pottery camel’s head and a terra cotta tablet with men riding on and leading camels. According to Free, these are both from predynastic Egypt (1944, pp. 189-190), which according to Clayton is roughly before 3150 B.C. Free also listed three clay camel heads and a limestone vessel in the form of camel lying down—all dated at the First Dynasty of Egypt (3050-2890 B.C.). He then mentioned several models of camels from the Fourth Dynasty (2613-2498 B.C.), and a petroglyph depicting a camel and a man dated at the Sixth Dynasty (2345-2184 B.C.). Such evidence has led one respected Egyptologist to conclude that “the extant evidence clearly indicates that the domestic camel was known [in Egypt—EL] by 3,000 B.C.”—long before Abraham’s time (Kitchen, 1980, 1:228).

Perhaps the most convincing find in support of the early domestication of camels in Egypt is a rope made of camel’s hair found in the Fayum (an oasis area southwest of modern-day Cairo). The two-strand twist of hair, measuring a little over three feet long, was found in the late 1920s, and was sent to the Natural History Museum where it was analyzed and compared to the hair of several different animals. After considerable testing, it was determined to be camel hair, dated (by analyzing the layer in which it was found) to the Third or Fourth Egyptian Dynasty (2686-2498 B.C.). In his article, Free also listed several other discoveries from around 2,000 B.C. and later, which showed camels as domestic animals (pp. 189-190).

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