For Women Under 30, Most Births Occur Outside Marriage

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LORAIN, Ohio — It used to be called illegitimacy. Now it is the new normal. After steadily rising for five decades, the share of children born to unmarried women has crossed a threshold: more than half of births to American women under 30 occur outside marriage. …73 percent of black children are born outside marriage, compared with 53 percent of Latinos and 29 percent of whites.
This is the fruit of the sexual revolution. Our president thinks that the answer to poverty is with free abortion and contraception. When in reality, these vices degrade our society and increase poverty.
When a second child, with a new boyfriend, followed three years later — her birth control failed, she said — her boyfriend, a part-time house painter, was reluctant to wed.
Rather, sex outside of marriage failed her. It’s telling that Obama-care will fund contraceptives and abortifacients but not education for NFP methods which would educate women and men about the fertility cycle rather than dehumanizing them with the contraceptive mentality. But of course, the pharmaceutical giants are making a fortune on the pill. Better keep people in the dark.
 
I just saw you post and as usual when i see things like it in the news it hits a nerve, why is it that the single mother alway get the grief for being single parent, unless im wrong doesnt the creation of a baby still involve a man, where are these men to support these children they created, probably walking off into the horizon making another woman pregnant,

I was 37 when i become a mother and yes a single one at that, i didnt believe in sex before marriage that choice was taken away from me,as this man didnt quite understand the word no.

But God give me gift that i treasure, and i will bring her up the best i can and will protect her with my life.

All single mothers out there aren’t bad.
 
i so want to reply to this post not because of what you wrote but the topic it covers, i will have to come back when i stop being angry
 
People need to understand that contraceptives do not keep you from becoming pregnant. They just keep you from staying pregnant.
 
This is the fruit of the sexual revolution. Our president thinks that the answer to poverty is with free abortion and contraception. When in reality, these vices degrade our society and increase poverty.

Rather, sex outside of marriage failed her. It’s telling that Obama-care will fund contraceptives and abortifacients but not education for NFP methods which would educate women and men about the fertility cycle rather than dehumanizing them with the contraceptive mentality. But of course, the pharmaceutical giants are making a fortune on the pill. Better keep people in the dark.
I once read that the UK had the highest level of underage pregnancy, I don’t know if that still stands or even if it was accurate.

This is completely unrelated to your point I see, sorry, it just got me thinking.
 
actually the USA has the highest level of under age pregnancies, the UK doesnt even appear in the top 26 countires listed.

But responding to the post, when anything is mentioned about unmarried mothers regardless of age enters the news it always makes me angry.

Im a unmarried mother, i didnt believe in sex before marriage it went against everything i believed in but that changed when i become a mother at 37 some men im afraid dont understand the word NO. Fortunately God blessed me with a beautiful daughter who will be four in May. She is the light of my life even when things are bad one smile from her bring happiness back to me, she is a true blessing.

I know there are unmarried mothers out there who got pregnant for selfish reasons, but the fathers of these children should also be hold accountable, it just seems that some people forget it takes two to conceive a child.
Sex is a powerful control over people and its not just physical action,

( sorry if this isnt the right responce to the post but it got it off my chest and now im not angry)
 
actually the USA has the highest level of under age pregnancies, the UK doesnt even appear in the top 26 countires listed.

But responding to the post, when anything is mentioned about unmarried mothers regardless of age enters the news it always makes me angry.

Im a unmarried mother, i didnt believe in sex before marriage it went against everything i believed in but that changed when i become a mother at 37 some men im afraid dont understand the word NO. Fortunately God blessed me with a beautiful daughter who will be four in May. She is the light of my life even when things are bad one smile from her bring happiness back to me, she is a true blessing.

I know there are unmarried mothers out there who got pregnant for selfish reasons, but the fathers of these children should also be hold accountable, it just seems that some people forget it takes two to conceive a child.
Sex is a powerful control over people and its not just physical action,

( sorry if this isnt the right responce to the post but it got it off my chest and now im not angry)
Men do seem to somehow slip through the net of responsibility.
 
Yes they do, some men are a cause of a lot of suffering on this planet that they seem unable to recognised or accept, saying that there are women also that are capable of causing suffering to.
 
Yes they do, some men are a cause of a lot of suffering on this planet that they seem unable to recognised or accept, saying that there are women also that are capable of causing suffering to.
You sound like a really good mother and you make a good point about men it takes two.

This is to the OP

I fail to see how this is President Obama’s fault as so many things seem to be his fault.Was not George W Bush in charge just 3 years ago? Not everything can be blamed on the current president.
 
Yes they do, some men are a cause of a lot of suffering on this planet that they seem unable to recognised or accept, saying that there are women also that are capable of causing suffering to.
Maralah, I agree - but actually the OP also mentions the negative role of men, giving the example of the boyfriend who was reluctant to marry the woman who became pregnant with his child. Absentee fathers are a big problem, and many times they not only refuse to marry the mother of their child, they also fail to pay child support regularly, they fail to stay involved in their children’s lives, etc.
 
I fail to see how this is President Obama’s fault as so many things seem to be his fault.Was not George W Bush in charge just 3 years ago? Not everything can be blamed on the current president.
President Bush was the constant target of ridicule from the left, because he promoted faith-based approaches and especially abstinence for unmarried school students. President Obama, on the other hand, defunded those educational programs that teach abstinence outside of marriage, programs that were put in place previously under Bush’s presidency.

So, yeah, President Bush earned my respect, and I do blame the left, starting with former President Clinton’s administration, and now Pres Obama’s. Clinton’s Health Secretary told in public, “we have taught the students what to do in the front seat of the car, now let’s teach them what to do in the back seat” - meaning sex, of course.

So, one could argue, President Bush tried to turn the ship around, but both Clinton before him, and Obama after him, are running the ship in the wrong direction. One more reason why the leftists should be voted out. Positive change can be made, and Bush did work hard to effect positive change. Now we only need to vote out Obama and bring back some sanity into Washington DC.
 
This is the fruit of the sexual revolution. Our president thinks that the answer to poverty is with free abortion and contraception. When in reality, these vices degrade our society and increase poverty.

Rather, sex outside of marriage failed her. It’s telling that Obama-care will fund contraceptives and abortifacients but not education for NFP methods which would educate women and men about the fertility cycle rather than dehumanizing them with the contraceptive mentality. But of course, the pharmaceutical giants are making a fortune on the pill. Better keep people in the dark.
How many married and unmarried men were those children born to please?

Why those words in bold? Please do not bring race into any discussion on CAF.
 
actually the USA has the highest level of under age pregnancies, the UK doesnt even appear in the top 26 countires listed.

But responding to the post, when anything is mentioned about unmarried mothers regardless of age enters the news it always makes me angry.

Im a unmarried mother, i didnt believe in sex before marriage it went against everything i believed in but that changed when i become a mother at 37 some men im afraid dont understand the word NO. Fortunately God blessed me with a beautiful daughter who will be four in May. She is the light of my life even when things are bad one smile from her bring happiness back to me, she is a true blessing.

I know there are unmarried mothers out there who got pregnant for selfish reasons, but the fathers of these children should also be hold accountable, it just seems that some people forget it takes two to conceive a child.
Sex is a powerful control over people and its not just physical action,

( sorry if this isnt the right responce to the post but it got it off my chest and now im not angry)
I am sorry for what happened to you. God bless you and your daughter, a precious gift from God.
 
How many married and unmarried men were those children born to please?

Why those words in bold? Please do not bring race into any discussion on CAF.
👍👍👍 Agreed!

To respond to L piperatus I do not want to divert this discussion about politics but your political views are very different to mine as a catholic.
 
73 percent of black children are born outside marriage
I think to solve current problems in society you have to look at the source of what started them. It started in the 1960s with War on Poverty.
The War on Poverty represented the crowning triumph of the liberal vision of society – and of government programs as the solution to social problems. The disastrous consequences that followed have made the word “liberal” so much of a political liability that today even candidates with long left-wing track records have evaded or denied that designation.
In the liberal vision, slums bred crime. But brand-new government housing projects almost immediately became new centers of crime and quickly degenerated into new slums. Many of these projects later had to be demolished. Unfortunately, the assumptions behind those projects were not demolished, but live on in other disastrous programs, such as Section 8 housing.
Rates of teenage pregnancy and venereal disease had been going down for years before the new 1960s attitudes toward sex spread rapidly through the schools, helped by War on Poverty money. These downward trends suddenly reversed and skyrocketed.
The murder rate had also been going down, for decades, and in 1960 was just under half of what it had been in 1934. Then the new 1960s policies toward curing the “root causes” of crime and creating new “rights” for criminals began. Rates of violent crime, including murder, skyrocketed.
The black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life.
Government social programs such as the War on Poverty were considered a way to reduce urban riots. Such programs increased sharply during the 1960s. So did urban riots. Later, during the Reagan administration, which was denounced for not promoting social programs, there were far fewer urban riots.
Neither the media nor most of our educational institutions question the assumptions behind the War on Poverty. Even conservatives often attribute much of the progress that has been made by lower-income people to these programs.
For example, the usually insightful quarterly magazine City Journal says in its current issue: “Beginning in the mid-sixties, the condition of most black Americans improved markedly.”
That is completely false and misleading.
The economic rise of blacks began decades earlier, before any of the legislation and policies that are credited with producing that rise. The continuation of the rise of blacks out of poverty did not – repeat, did not – accelerate during the 1960s.
The poverty rate among black families fell from 87 percent in 1940 to 47 percent in 1960, during an era of virtually no major civil rights legislation or anti-poverty programs. It dropped another 17 percentage points during the decade of the 1960s and one percentage point during the 1970s, but this continuation of the previous trend was neither unprecedented nor something to be arbitrarily attributed to the programs like the War on Poverty.
In various skilled trades, the incomes of blacks relative to whites more than doubled between 1936 and 1959 – that is, before the magic 1960s decade when supposedly all progress began. The rise of blacks in professional and other high-level occupations was greater in the five years preceding the Civil Rights Act of 1964 than in the five years afterwards.
While some good things did come out of the 1960s, as out of many other decades, so did major social disasters that continue to plague us today. Many of those disasters began quite clearly during the 1960s.
capitalismmagazine.com/politics/poverty/3864-War-Poverty-Revisited.html
 
I once read that the UK had the highest level of underage pregnancy, I don’t know if that still stands or even if it was accurate.

This is completely unrelated to your point I see, sorry, it just got me thinking.
UK has one of the highest teenage pregnancy rates in Europe after decades of sex education in schools, with very little if any focus on abstinence. Decades of government initiatives to provide free contraception. Most if not all contraception is FREE in Britain.
 
UK has one of the highest teenage pregnancy rates in Europe after decades of sex education in schools, with very little if any focus on abstinence. Decades of government initiatives to provide free contraception.
Sex education from my perceptive should only be taught at an age you would be expecting them to be consenting.
Most if not all contraception is FREE in Britain.
Exactly, this is why I don’t get how it is possible that so many have kids they say they didn’t plan.
 
Let me try to respond as an old man who grew up in a different time, and a historian.

First, my mother, as all mothers of that time taught me to stand when a lady enters the room, remove my hat before speaking to a lady, and always to treat a lady properly. Young ladies were taught to accept and expect that treatment with quiet dignity.
Girls were taught that their first responsibilty was to their husband and children to maintain a good home for them. While boys were taught that their first responsibilty was to their wife and children, to work to provide funds for that good home for his family.
My father and parish priest taught me to be responsible for my actions, including marrying a girl if you got her pregnant or go to work and support the child if the girl refused to marry. That was my times.

In historical times pregnancy has been treated far differently. Ever wonder why there is so many names in the phone book that begin with “fitz”. It is because that’s the Gaelic word for illegitimate child of John, Gerald, Hugh, etc. Then there was practiced in Scotland a term called hand fasting. Where a couple had the man’s right arm and the lady’s left arm tied together in a hand fasting ceremony. They lived together for a year. If they produced a child, then the marriage was performed by replacing the tying of her left arm with a ring on the third finger of her left hand. The couple could also break the hand fast with simple consent from both at any time during that first year. In our South a lady would have to prove that she was fertile before a marriage was performed. This was true up to and after the War for Southern Independence. In the Morman Sect of the 1800, early 1900’s, many Mormen men had been killed, hanged, died in jails for their beliefs. So, multiple marriages were authorized just to bring more children into the sect. In Africa today, women are “fixed” so they have no feeling during sex. It is accepted that African men have complete authority over women and that women must submit to any man. Hence, some would say Barak Obama, whose African father was taught in this matter. In Islam a female is nothing more than property. In some areas of Islam when the marriage ceremony was performed a sheeps skin was given to the man to place under his new wife, which he had to retrun to the Imam with blood of his wife on it to prove she was a virgin when married.

While marriage, or formal coupling of a man and woman in some fashion is a long ancient accepted ceremony in history both pagan and religious, the rules of pregnancy are not.

Slave women were given presents by their owners on our Southern plantations when they became pregnant. Those slaves, in many cases, married by jumping over a broom. But the chance of family was almost not existent as a slave marriage was not recognized and they could be sold at will.

Today, we still see some small remnants of that slave mentality in African American children born out of wedlock and a fatherless family, A mentality passed by, some would say, ignorant generations. We thought we could change that with integration. However, historically it has been proven that when two societies integrate the stronger actions of one will eventually overcome the other. We are seeing it happen before our very eyes. Our government facilitates it under the guise of multiculturism, government mandated birth control, food stamps, welfare, and so many other “equalizing” programs. We see it in our lack of proper speech, music, and a week long celebration of the death of a drug addict who lost her millions up her nose and down her throat. It was the same with Janis Joplin in the late 60’s. So skin color has no bearing, our children’s “heros” no longer set a good example.

In my time what Bristol Palin did would have been quietly filed in some journalist’s file. Today, it made worldwide headlines. Because of who she is and the now “food frenzy” attitude of our present media. I wonder what would happen if, in a very short time, one of President Obama’s daughters became pregnant and had a child out of wedlock. The ravenous media would jump all over it and we would have special hour long news programs dedicated to that one subject. “The times they are a changin” a mantra of the late 60’s.

Scientists predict that within 1500 years we will all look the same, that races will no longer exist. That’s probably a good thing. The only problem is what the laws and practices of religion and social responsiblity be in 1500 years?
 
Why are we so surprised to see the demise of the family structure? I think this is normal considering where we’re at in current times.

The best antidote is love, shelters for women to encourage re-growth of family values and raising of their children, and Catholic Social Programs that encourage family. It’s 10x harder to be a family when everything seems at odds. Catholic programs can help encourage women, and men, to re-think their views of contraceptives, abortion, etc. in a loving way. Just one person can have a huge impact on someone’s life, and that in turn can change the community around them.

I got pregnant outside of marriage, with my out-of-state boyfriend at the time. I was just making an oath to God at that time not to have sex anymore outside of marriage when I found out I was pregnant. I decided to live with my boyfriend, and lost the baby. Now I’m married and have a son, because I did not want that kind of life anymore. Looking back, I would have much preferred to have waited and married before getting pregnant. But sometimes, it’s the painful parts that make our hearts, minds, and souls lean on Christ all the more, and Him, showing us where our weak places are.

Hopefully there will be an end to the sexual “freedoms” in our country that actually do quite the opposite-- burden and kill. How much pain we will tolerate for pleasure! It makes no sense.
 
I can see where you’re coming from in the idea of the welfare state causing a lot of this, BUT, there are other factors as well. I think the biggest problem is that we’re no longer religious. It used to be that barring a life-threatening illness, you went to church. Most of the people snogging and making babies have never darkened the door of ANY church, synagogue or temple. That means that they’re at the mercy of American culture, which is pretty vile in most regards and never teaches that anything is wrong. If you don’t have a church to tell you that sex is for marrieds only, you don’t know that. If the church doesn’t teach you that murder is wrong, or pedophilia is wrong or stealing is wrong, that’s a strike against you as far as successful living, because those things not only hurt others, but hurt you as well.

I think the other big problem is that we’ve psychologized all kinds of things. Anything you do wrong is mental illness. You aren’t a drunk, you’re alcoholic (and it’s not your fault). You’re not a skank, but you have a pornography addiction (and it’s not your fault). That removes any impulse to even attempt to change the behavior, because it doesn’t even say that it’s wrong. A drunk will be ashamed, but an alcoholic won’t. A drunk might seek forgiveness, but not an alcoholic. The alcoholic thinks that not only is it not his fault, but that change is impossible. Not the case at all, but he doesn’t think a change can happen, and therefore it won’t.
 
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