For Women Under 30, Most Births Occur Outside Marriage

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You have not shown how the War on Poverty disproportionately targeted black people and not other groups in society. Until you show that, it makes no sense why you keep singling black people out.

Your arguments about black PhDs are not true. Black PhDs have been rising with the times.
I do not see why social ills cannot be addressed generally. For example, poverty is poverty. As Christians we should work towards helping the poor regardless of race. I wonder how many who have made negative remarks about African Americans have any as close friends. Then we have posts including things like this:

“Today, we still see some small remnants of that slave mentality in African American children born out of wedlock and a fatherless family, A mentality passed by, some would say, ignorant generations. We thought we could change that with integration. However, historically it has been proven that when two societies integrate the stronger actions of one will eventually overcome the other. We are seeing it happen before our very eyes. Our government facilitates it under the guise of multiculturism, government mandated birth control, food stamps, welfare, and so many other “equalizing” programs. We see it in our lack of proper speech, music, and a week long celebration of the death of a drug addict who lost her millions up her nose and down her throat. It was the same with Janis Joplin in the late 60’s. So skin color has no bearing, our children’s “heros” no longer set a good example.”
A reference to a dead white singer does not make it seem less rascist.

There was an earlier reference to Obama and what his father taught him. Obama was brought up by his White mother and grandparents and that generalisation about Africa!!!
 
You have not shown how the War on Poverty disproportionately targeted black people and not other groups in society. Until you show that, it makes no sense why you keep singling black people out.

Your arguments about black PhDs are not true. Black PhDs have been rising with the times.
I have given you credible source that has said more attention of the War on Poverty policies was tarted at Black people.

Something happened in the 1960s that broke up Black families, introduced government housing etc. What brought this - War on Poverty. If you have an alternative answer, I would like to hear it.

Before War on Poverty teenage pregnancy rates and sexually transmitted diseases rate was declining, then new attitudes to sex were spread by War on Poverty money and the trends changed.

Before War on Poverty the murder rate had been going down for a long time, it was half what it was in 1960 than in 1934 - then, new policy to gave ‘rights’’ to criminals in the 1960s, violent crime increased.

Urban riots increased in the 1960s.

Maybe I got the PHd thing wrong, I thought I had a source for that but can not find it.
 
As a PhD in History, I can say this. Since the days of recorded history, there has been some form of marriage. Also, there has been unmarried mothers for a multitude of reasons. African Americans of today are but a spot on a pinhead of history in that subject. What has been found in all times in history is the breakdown of family or in many empires, nations, tribes, no family at all, rather a ritual of manhood and womanhood.

In various times in history there has been rituals where a child is removed from a family at a certain age and trained in various subjects. Christians are but a pip of time as it pertains to historical development to today.

A previous posted chart depicted the rise of unwed mothers in various nations. If you look at the ones with the largest rise, you are looking at secularism and socialism taking rise over religious dogma and principles. The principle of Christian marriage and family is reversed to doing what feels good and the government will pay for it. Why is it not that way is Japan. Because of the remnents of a strong training of family where honor and respect comes first and foremost. I spent several years in Japan. I learned to respectfully bow very often and that women are trained from birth to still be subserviant, even with all the trappings of today’s world society. Even the professional women, those who are to please men, are trained in the ways to do just that.

So, this is not an African American problem in America. It is a national problem. We cannot go back to one event such as the War on Poverty and place a finger on a beginning. We can however, go back and trace the slipping of our country towards a “nanny state” where the federal government is in control of everything. The worst case scenario of that in modern history is Hitler’s Germany where “lebensborns” were created where Aryan men of military stature would be paired with a nubile fertile Aryan woman for nothing more that the purposes of developing an Aryan child for the Hitler Youth, the future leaders of the Aryan Nation. No marriages, just bedding, pregnancy and birth. Each girl was praised at birth and given higher status, much akin to the female slaves of the plantations in both the North and South were rewarded by their masters for the making of another slave.

Now, we have increasingly secular federal, state, and even local governments to make laws that disregard family. Some in the name of women’s rights, some in the name of child rights, some just for profit of the pill making companies.

Instead of countering these secular socialistic efforts, we embrase them. So, the younger generation now understands that there is no stigma attached to fathering or mothering a child out of wedlock, in fact it is rewarded with both laws and entitlements.

When I was in high school, my best friend, a girl, suddenly stopped coming to school. She just disappeared. A year later she returned, and was shunned by all. I was so niave that I honestly didn’t understand why and no one, including my mother and father, explained it to me. I asked her out on a date. On that date she explained to me the she was a mother now. I had known this girl since we were two years old. I understood how a baby was made. I understood that some girls and boys did “the dirty thing” as we called it. But I could not understand why my friend would do that. I thought I was in love with this girl. For years our parents thought we would grow up and eventually marry. My honor said that night to her that I would marry her and take care of her and make her child our child. She kindly refused and a few weeks later, the family moved away. I never saw her again. I received a letter almost thirty years later from her. In the letter she explained that she wished she had accepted my offer of marriage, at sixteen, both of us, all those years ago. Her life had been hard but successful in a worldly way. She never married, raised her son, and she was now a very successful business owner. That was in the days before all the govenment entitlment programs encouraging girls to have children out of wedlock. However, she very much missed the home with the white picket fence, and a husband coming home each evening after work to the smell of a meal she was cooking. Her son had gone to Notre Dame and became a pilot in the USAF after graduation. He had a fine family, something she never had. She thanked me for that offer those many years ago saying it remained one of the highlights of her life.I still have the letter, my beautiful and gracious wife kept it, even read it to our daughters.

I tell that to say this. That mantra of my time no longer exists. It is not one single event that changed our American Ideals, but a ever increasing idea that young boys and girls have the right to act as adults and the consequences is now covered by a federal law that states that that unborn child may be killed at taxpayer expense if the girl so chooses; and the children who are born are entitled to “free” meals, free housing, free education paid for enacted legal entitlement programs of our secular federal government at, again, taxpayer expense.
 
As a PhD in History, I can say this. Since the days of recorded history, there has been some form of marriage. Also, there has been unmarried mothers for a multitude of reasons. African Americans of today are but a spot on a pinhead of history in that subject. What has been found in all times in history is the breakdown of family or in many empires, nations, tribes, no family at all, rather a ritual of manhood and womanhood.

In various times in history there has been rituals where a child is removed from a family at a certain age and trained in various subjects. Christians are but a pip of time as it pertains to historical development to today.

A previous posted chart depicted the rise of unwed mothers in various nations. If you look at the ones with the largest rise, you are looking at secularism and socialism taking rise over religious dogma and principles. The principle of Christian marriage and family is reversed to doing what feels good and the government will pay for it. Why is it not that way is Japan. Because of the remnents of a strong training of family where honor and respect comes first and foremost. I spent several years in Japan. I learned to respectfully bow very often and that women are trained from birth to still be subserviant, even with all the trappings of today’s world society. Even the professional women, those who are to please men, are trained in the ways to do just that.

So, this is not an African American problem in America. It is a national problem. We cannot go back to one event such as the War on Poverty and place a finger on a beginning. We can however, go back and trace the slipping of our country towards a “nanny state” where the federal government is in control of everything. The worst case scenario of that in modern history is Hitler’s Germany where “lebensborns” were created where Aryan men of military stature would be paired with a nubile fertile Aryan woman for nothing more that the purposes of developing an Aryan child for the Hitler Youth, the future leaders of the Aryan Nation. No marriages, just bedding, pregnancy and birth. Each girl was praised at birth and given higher status, much akin to the female slaves of the plantations in both the North and South were rewarded by their masters for the making of another slave.

Now, we have increasingly secular federal, state, and even local governments to make laws that disregard family. Some in the name of women’s rights, some in the name of child rights, some just for profit of the pill making companies.

Instead of countering these secular socialistic efforts, we embrase them. So, the younger generation now understands that there is no stigma attached to fathering or mothering a child out of wedlock, in fact it is rewarded with both laws and entitlements.

When I was in high school, my best friend, a girl, suddenly stopped coming to school. She just disappeared. A year later she returned, and was shunned by all. I was so niave that I honestly didn’t understand why and no one, including my mother and father, explained it to me. I asked her out on a date. On that date she explained to me the she was a mother now. I had known this girl since we were two years old. I understood how a baby was made. I understood that some girls and boys did “the dirty thing” as we called it. But I could not understand why my friend would do that. I thought I was in love with this girl. For years our parents thought we would grow up and eventually marry. My honor said that night to her that I would marry her and take care of her and make her child our child. She kindly refused and a few weeks later, the family moved away. I never saw her again. I received a letter almost thirty years later from her. In the letter she explained that she wished she had accepted my offer of marriage, at sixteen, both of us, all those years ago. Her life had been hard but successful in a worldly way. She never married, raised her son, and she was now a very successful business owner. That was in the days before all the govenment entitlment programs encouraging girls to have children out of wedlock. However, she very much missed the home with the white picket fence, and a husband coming home each evening after work to the smell of a meal she was cooking. Her son had gone to Notre Dame and became a pilot in the USAF after graduation. He had a fine family, something she never had. She thanked me for that offer those many years ago saying it remained one of the highlights of her life.I still have the letter, my beautiful and gracious wife kept it, even read it to our daughters.

I tell that to say this. That mantra of my time no longer exists. It is not one single event that changed our American Ideals, but a ever increasing idea that young boys and girls have the right to act as adults and the consequences is now covered by a federal law that states that that unborn child may be killed at taxpayer expense if the girl so chooses; and the children who are born are entitled to “free” meals, free housing, free education paid for enacted legal entitlement programs of our secular federal government at, again, taxpayer expense.
Yes there were unmarried mothers before War on Poverty but at a far lower rate. I am not saying War on poverty was the only contributor to the breakdown of families, but it is a large contributor.
 
LORAIN, Ohio — It used to be called illegitimacy. Now it is the new normal. After steadily rising for five decades, the share of children born to unmarried women has crossed a threshold: more than half of births to American women under 30 occur outside marriage. …73 percent of black children are born outside marriage, compared with 53 percent of Latinos and 29 percent of whites.
When you want more of something you subsidize it, when you want less of something you tax it. It’s basic economics.

Which is subsidized – family with a husband and or single parent households?
 
I hate to derail, but was this common knowledge in more modern times? I’m curious, because if it was, it begs the question of what significance it plays with regard to the names of literary characters, e.g., Jane Austen’s naming Fitzwilliam Darcy.
 
Let me try to respond as an old man who grew up in a different time, and a historian.

First, my mother, as all mothers of that time taught me to stand when a lady enters the room, remove my hat before speaking to a lady, and always to treat a lady properly. Young ladies were taught to accept and expect that treatment with quiet dignity.
Girls were taught that their first responsibilty was to their husband and children to maintain a good home for them. While boys were taught that their first responsibilty was to their wife and children, to work to provide funds for that good home for his family.
My father and parish priest taught me to be responsible for my actions, including marrying a girl if you got her pregnant or go to work and support the child if the girl refused to marry. That was my times.

In historical times pregnancy has been treated far differently. Ever wonder why there is so many names in the phone book that begin with “fitz”. It is because that’s the Gaelic word for illegitimate child of John, Gerald, Hugh, etc. Then there was practiced in Scotland a term called hand fasting. Where a couple had the man’s right arm and the lady’s left arm tied together in a hand fasting ceremony. They lived together for a year. If they produced a child, then the marriage was performed by replacing the tying of her left arm with a ring on the third finger of her left hand. The couple could also break the hand fast with simple consent from both at any time during that first year. In our South a lady would have to prove that she was fertile before a marriage was performed. This was true up to and after the War for Southern Independence. In the Morman Sect of the 1800, early 1900’s, many Mormen men had been killed, hanged, died in jails for their beliefs. So, multiple marriages were authorized just to bring more children into the sect. In Africa today, women are “fixed” so they have no feeling during sex. It is accepted that African men have complete authority over women and that women must submit to any man. Hence, some would say Barak Obama, whose African father was taught in this matter. In Islam a female is nothing more than property. In some areas of Islam when the marriage ceremony was performed a sheeps skin was given to the man to place under his new wife, which he had to retrun to the Imam with blood of his wife on it to prove she was a virgin when married.

While marriage, or formal coupling of a man and woman in some fashion is a long ancient accepted ceremony in history both pagan and religious, the rules of pregnancy are not.

Slave women were given presents by their owners on our Southern plantations when they became pregnant. Those slaves, in many cases, married by jumping over a broom. But the chance of family was almost not existent as a slave marriage was not recognized and they could be sold at will.

Today, we still see some small remnants of that slave mentality in African American children born out of wedlock and a fatherless family, A mentality passed by, some would say, ignorant generations. We thought we could change that with integration. However, historically it has been proven that when two societies integrate the stronger actions of one will eventually overcome the other. We are seeing it happen before our very eyes. Our government facilitates it under the guise of multiculturism, government mandated birth control, food stamps, welfare, and so many other “equalizing” programs. We see it in our lack of proper speech, music, and a week long celebration of the death of a drug addict who lost her millions up her nose and down her throat. It was the same with Janis Joplin in the late 60’s. So skin color has no bearing, our children’s “heros” no longer set a good example.
In my time what Bristol Palin did would have been quietly filed in some journalist’s file. Today, it made worldwide headlines. Because of who she is and the now “food frenzy” attitude of our present media. I wonder what would happen if, in a very short time, one of President Obama’s daughters became pregnant and had a child out of wedlock. The ravenous media would jump all over it and we would have special hour long news programs dedicated to that one subject. “The times they are a changin” a mantra of the late 60’s.

Scientists predict that within 1500 years we will all look the same, that races will no longer exist. That’s probably a good thing. The only problem is what the laws and practices of religion and social responsiblity be in 1500 years?
I need to ask. Where in the world did you hear this? This seems highly unlikely in my opinion.
 
Beg to differ, the term “Fitz” is Gaelic. It was included into the norman english of the times. As a matter of fact one of King Henry’s bastard children was named Fitzroy, the illegitmate child of royalty. If you go all the way back to the bronze age when England and Ireland were attached to the mainland and the receding waters of the ice age broke through the land lock and formed the English Channel and Irish Sea, you see a common thread. Gaelic come from the word Gaul, which Caeser conquered. The pre French, Bretons, and Normans. It is a gutteral language not flowing. There was Celtic, Gaelic, Welsh, and many other forms of the ancient Gaullic language resident in both islands. Of course as with most language forms, including our Southern English there are dialects. But, you are very misinformed. I suggest you study the Gaelic and Celtic languages of ancient Ireland and Scotland. Of course you can find it in 1600’s English, They had long sense made contact with the Gaels and Celts and assimilated words from their language, even conquering them and forcing them to only use the conquer’s language at different times. Remember William Wallace and his fight for Scottish Freedom, which included the right to speak in their own form of Celtic again.

As for the no more races. I heard that from a group of collegue professors of modern cultures. They stated that with the mass ability to mingle these days and even more so in the future, intermarriage, inter sex, and inter social reactions will lead to the colmingling of races so much that the world will be one race, maybe some lighter or darker than others, but common facial features and body structure. To think less would be homophobic in nature. My great grandson in half of one race and half of another today. So is Barak Obama just for two points. But, we are discussing something that we will never see for we are speaking of two thirds of the time equal to when Our Lord and Savior was born. Just look at what happened in the world since then. Look at the rapidity of development. How many pure aborigines are left in Australia? Very few. Sure many were killed, but many also assimilated through sex. The only reason I am referred to as a Caucasian is because somewhere in the ancient past my ancestors migrated out of Africa with black skin and evolved into a pale (white) skin because of adaption to a new environment. My ancestors were first found around the Caucasus mountains or ancient referred to as the Steppes, hence the name of the race. That took millions of years. Today we can circle the world in hours. So 1500 years is a very long period considering today’s and even faster future ways to move. This was brought out in the latest version of “The Time Machine”, where all the above ground dwellers looked similar.
 
Ever heard of Margaret Sangor? It was her work that started what we now know as planned parenthood.

Yes, millions were given to the poor in the war on poverty. However, go back to the National Recovery Act and find the beginnings of Social Security. That gave rise to various entitlement programs after WWII, one being the GI Bill. It went on from there. The War on Proverty is over, the poor lost. In it’s place are so many taxpayer funded entitilment programs, both known and unknown it makes one wonder why we even have a country anymore. Did you know that a rural minority family was able to purchase a home at a one percent interest rate at one time. That came with the Civil Rights Act of 1965. To help cover the national guilt of slavery. That went on under President Clinton to expand it into government underwriting of home loans without any forms of security. After Katrina a minority family was given a new home in Northen Louisiana by a church group. The family immediately sold the home and kept the money. Today food stamps in an ongoing black market business worth millions. I personally witnessed a man purchasing wine and beer with foot stamps and watched it being up and WIC foodstuffs. The more entitlements the government gives out, the more they will be manipulated and used in a manner far from what they were intended.

As long as we pay teenage girls for having babies out of wedlock, they will have babies out of wedlock. As long as a federal law gives them the choice of killing them, they will kill them. It is axiomatic.
 
As for the no more races. I heard that from a group of collegue professors of modern cultures. They stated that with the mass ability to mingle these days and even more so in the future, intermarriage, inter sex, and inter social reactions will lead to the colmingling of races so much that the world will be one race, maybe some lighter or darker than others, but common facial features and body structure. To think less would be homophobic in nature. My great grandson in half of one race and half of another today. So is Barak Obama just for two points. But, we are discussing something that we will never see for we are speaking of two thirds of the time equal to when Our Lord and Savior was born. Just look at what happened in the world since then. Look at the rapidity of development. How many pure aborigines are left in Australia? Very few. Sure many were killed, but many also assimilated through sex. The only reason I am referred to as a Caucasian is because somewhere in the ancient past my ancestors migrated out of Africa with black skin and evolved into a pale (white) skin because of adaption to a new environment. My ancestors were first found around the Caucasus mountains or ancient referred to as the Steppes, hence the name of the race. That took millions of years. Today we can circle the world in hours. So 1500 years is a very long period considering today’s and even faster future ways to move. This was brought out in the latest version of “The Time Machine”, where all the above ground dwellers looked similar.
All “races” are really just one race except that they are made of differect colors. I agree over generations, one “race” mixing with another one, you will get a new group. Perhaps one group will not always be here. Although I need to say that I doubt there will just one color among the human race. There will always be different colors in the human race because as you said, people just adabt to a certain enviroment in the part of the world those people are living in. And this truth will never change. I also need to say that people will say some crazy things. I read an article in which a top “scientist” said that the human race will become two in the far future. My advice: don’t believe everything you hear. Our Lord made the human race with mulitiple colors, and deemed this good. Even with mating within this different groups over generations, there will always be different colors in our race.
 
Without respect to race, the problem is that children born outside of marriage do worse in life. Their parents have started them out with a disadvantage. They are more likely to end up poor, they have worse prospects all around.

The fact that so many are ensuring that their children are born without an intact family is quite troubling.
 
Your problem is you are mixing your religious beliefs with science. That is never a good idea. Our bible says the God made our world in six days. Humanly that is not possible, However, in the fossil record there just happens to be six major eras. So, could it be that what is told in Gensis and the fossil record could be one in the same given no human knows how long God’s day is.

It took millions of human years to change a black skin pigment to pale, but that is just a blip in God’s time. What you fail to understand is that with today’s mixing of races and the continuing of that over how rapidly we can visit each other worldwide these days just speeds up that human innerwhining. We now know what genes are dominant and recessive. So when those 23 chormosomes from a male and 23 chromosomes from a female come together, it matters not which race each are from today and the product of that coming together becomes, as you say, another group. Over a long period of time, that constant intermingling of those 23 plus 23 chromosomes will widen the gene pool to a point of sameness. It is part of the chaos theory. Humans will mate, that is God’s will. At one point in time all humans were dark skinned by the fossil record or maybe just after the first click on God’s clock of the sixth day. With the migrations and environment change over millions of years that black skin pigment changed, eye shapes changed, facial features changed. All that happened in but another click of God’s clock or in human time the last era of known fossil records. Today, we travel faster that the speed of sound. How fast are we going to travel a thousand years from now? Today we can control our environment. What are we going to be able to do two thousand years from now? Now 1500-2000 years is but a microscope dot on the fossil record and by extension a very slight microscopic movement of God’s clock.

So, one can fairly estimate that within the next 1500-2000 of human years we are all going to be one race. Why, because it is happening all around us as we look. We may have several nations with differing laws and languages, but we will still be human, just a human as we all are today just with similar human features. We just will look more like each other. Today, I cannot tell a German from a Canadian. I cannot tell one Asian from another. I cannot even tell the child of a Canadian and an Asian, many times from one of mine. That is a good thing. Red, Yellow, Blue, Black, White, Green, Polka Dot, or Plaid still have the same genes and it still takes the same 23 chromosomes from a male and female to make a child. To say that races will remain is to say that all animals will always be as they are today. Not comparaing, but that will just not happen either. According to the Holy Scriptures we are in the sixth God’s day of the fossil record. The question is how far are we into it? Those that study these things for a living say that it is still the dawn of the Sixth day and we have a long way to go. Please do not take the tiny point in either our or God’s time and the final end all. We are just beginning. As soon as we can figure out that we are all one people under 10 basic laws in a few nanoseconds of God’s time, we will then find the peace that he has for us.
 
Without respect to race, the problem is that children born outside of marriage do worse in life. Their parents have started them out with a disadvantage. They are more likely to end up poor, they have worse prospects all around.

The fact that so many are ensuring that their children are born without an intact family is quite troubling.
How dare you say things like this, not only it is offensive, but damn well wrong you should be ashamed of yourself. beginning to think i should grab you a stone, but maybe you can handle that yourself

As to the race of who is having what children if they are married or not, doesnt really come into it. There isnt a white race, black race etc just the HUMAN RACE
 
How dare you say things like this, not only it is offensive, but damn well wrong you should be ashamed of yourself. beginning to think i should grab you a stone, but maybe you can handle that yourself

As to the race of who is having what children if they are married or not, doesnt really come into it. There isnt a white race, black race etc just the HUMAN RACE
The truth hurts that much?

apps.olin.wustl.edu/macarthur/working%20papers/wp-mclanahan2.htm

Single parent families as a result of divorce are also more prone to poverty.

divorcereform.org/pov.html

Its not just an “American” issue either.

www.benefits.org.uk/loneparentdynamics.pdf
 
Your problem is you are mixing your religious beliefs with science. That is never a good idea. Our bible says the God made our world in six days. Humanly that is not possible,
God: the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe

Human: Not god.
 
The truth hurts that much?

apps.olin.wustl.edu/macarthur/working%20papers/wp-mclanahan2.htm

Single parent families as a result of divorce are also more prone to poverty.

divorcereform.org/pov.html

Its not just an “American” issue either.

www.benefits.org.uk/loneparentdynamics.pdf
the post i responding to was about children born out of wedlock not as a result of divorce. as to your comment, unless i cant read which i know i can, children brought up in a two parent family dont seem to fair to well either, a percentage of them end up on drugs in prison etc, to say that a child born to a single mother isnt going to have a happy life or make anything of themselves it wrong. I read a post on this website about someone who went to school with a girl who had a child she never married but her son grow up, went to university and become a USAF pilot,

Children abilities to be successful in their lives have to be taught by their parents, doesnt matter whether its one parent or two
 
How dare you say things like this, not only it is offensive, but damn well wrong you should be ashamed of yourself. beginning to think i should grab you a stone, but maybe you can handle that yourself

As to the race of who is having what children if they are married or not, doesnt really come into it. There isnt a white race, black race etc just the HUMAN RACE
👍👍 Yes indeed we are ALL brothers and sisters to each other.God loves us all no differenciation at all nor should there ever be.
 
the post i responding to was about children born out of wedlock not as a result of divorce. as to your comment, unless i cant read which i know i can, children brought up in a two parent family dont seem to fair to well either, a percentage of them end up on drugs in prison etc, to say that a child born to a single mother isnt going to have a happy life or make anything of themselves it wrong. I read a post on this website about someone who went to school with a girl who had a child she never married but her son grow up, went to university and become a USAF pilot,

Children abilities to be successful in their lives have to be taught by their parents, doesnt matter whether its one parent or two
I guess the truth does hurt that much.
 
How dare you say things like this, not only it is offensive, but damn well wrong you should be ashamed of yourself. beginning to think i should grab you a stone, but maybe you can handle that yourself

As to the race of who is having what children if they are married or not, doesnt really come into it. There isnt a white race, black race etc just the HUMAN RACE
Yes, that’s what I said. Race has nothing to do with it. But the fact is that as a general matter, children born out of wedlock start out at a disadvantage. The best environment to raise children is in an intact family with a mother and a father who are married.

That’s not to say children are unable to overcome the circumstances of their birth. They are. But it’s harder. Why would any parent wish to start their kids out with this disadvantage?

It was a Clinton White House staffer who once said that the surest way to avoid poverty is to not have children until marriage.
 
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