That plus his interest in Weapons of Mass Destruction – which he had, although not to the extent we thought.
Do I have your vote?
Not that could reach America.
That’s kind of like saying the gang-bangers can rape all the women they want, as long as they don’t do it on my block.
No. I no longer will vote for those promoting undeclared wars or excercising illigetimate Presidential powers that are detrimental to the nation. That excludes the current 3 candidates the media has left us with.
Where did you get your military expertise?
No. Going to war in Iraq was like going into Mexico to arrest the gang bangers raping women there while not going after those raping women here.
Where did you get your military expertise?
Not sure what expertise you are refering to. The constitution is clear how a war is to be declared. I can read that as well as anyone. Since WW2 we have not followed that and we also have not had too many victories since then either. The Korean war is in a truce- not ended, and our troops have been there for over 60 years. Viet Nam was a political failure and is a loss for the USA. The current war in Iraq is a continuation of the 1991 war. In 1991 we went to war using the UN as authority instead of congress. I don;t see how that is a good way for America to be acting.
I mean wearing the uniform, attending the schools, commanding troops in battle – that sort of thing, you know?
The Whiskey Rebellion (1794) was not a declared war. The Quasi War against France (1798-1800) was not declared. The wars against the Barbary Pirates (1801-1805 and 1815) were not declared. The Civil War was not declared. The Indian Wars were not declared. The United States has fought far more actions short of war than it has fought declared wars.
None of which posed an immediate threat to the United States. Anyone could make those chemical weapons, the regime had no contacts with international terrorism and there was no evidence to suggest that it did.
USAF 87-91 and Active Reserves from 93-95. Technical school honor graduate, hydraulic mechanic on F15 A thru E models, A-10, and the C-5, rank of E-5. I served with the 48th FIS squadron in Virgina, then Korea for a year in Suwon with the A-10’s, and ended my active duty in North Carolina with the F15-E. Saddam invaded Kuwait just as I was seperating out. I offered to stay a while (without re-enlisting) but even with my battle damage training I received they felt it unneccessary to stop-loss my AFSC; only MP’s were not permitted to seperate then.
It is worth the debate.
There are major differences not the least of which is when the US is dealing with a nation state such as Iraq in 1991/2003 or Japan in 1941; and pirates off the coast or civil war amongst ourselves. Congress once again shirked it’s lawfull duty and responsibility and does not restrain the Executive branch as it is intended. They would not declare the war even when it was proposed. Who the next King George will be is anybody’s guess but any of the three most talked about running now want that same illigitimate authority the current king has taken. Article 1 of the Constitution gives the powers and limitations of each branch. I think people need to re-read it if they ever had in the first place.
I didn’t suggest the thread departure but am willing to walk it’s path. I thought you and I were in basic agreement; the use of force is not legitimate. Many of the same reasons I use in my position on Iraq are shared by my position on what used to be called Burma.
No, it was not. It was about dealing with the rat’s nest of WMD, international terrorism and resurgent Islam.
Under those circumstances we need to invade Syria, Egypt, Pakistan and Iran to name a few. I heard the presumptive GOP nominee say the other day he would have a national energy policy that would no longer require US troops in the Middle East. Neocon talking points are shifting. Pay attention.
For the good of the people and the region did we invade Iraq and for the same reasons now some want to do the same in Mayanmar. We need to stop doing the world such favors.
The use of force is not legitimate in this case because no national interest of the United States is at stake. If force must be used, let the British (who used to colonize Myanmar) or other nations in the region do the heavy lifting.
Ah, yes, the old “all international problems are the same” fallacy.
Those who want to invade Myanmar should arm themselves and go to it. If they are not physically in their prime, the Scooter Store has some kevlar-lined scooters.
When are you neocons going to stop beating that dead horse? You just said Iraq was invaded for:
Where is our national interest in that? Don’t tell me it’s embeded in international terrorism, because that dog won’t hunt either.
You are the one mixing up international, regional and internal conflcits under the same banner; not me.Ah, yes, the old “all international problems are the same” fallacy.
I say the same for Iraq. When are you shipping out to take the place of my two nephews in theater now?
Well, I know from past posts that Vern has already taken his share of bullets for this country, so unless you’ve done the same maybe you should ask your nephews to post.
Personal experience is always a good thing to have when advocating an endevor others must fullfill for you. It’s not required, but its nice to have. Not all those wanting to run our country has such experience just like the man currently sitting in the office, so take it for what its worth. It doesn’t automatically make one correct to advocate offensive military action just because one participated in it in the past.