Ford Motor Company Supports Homosexual Marriage Movement

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norbert,

Since you seem to answer my responses with questions, I will do the same.

Do you think that Jesus would tell homosexuals to stay in their homsexual lifestyle (this is a yes or not question)?
 
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norbert:
So, if a company had a policy to actively discriminate against gays - to not hire them, or to deny them health insurance coverage, or to have them wear a great big hat with the word “sinner” on it, would you choose to support that company? If tolerance and acceptance are wrong, then is antagonism right?
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A chaste homosexual has no need to declare his condition to anyone. If they do it’s to promote the “gay” agenda.
 
no, you’re not “supporting” anything
you’re just buying a car

considering some of the wacky planned community/company town stuff Henry Ford was imposing on his work force between the wars this in nothing
 
Steve Andersen:
no, you’re not “supporting” anything
you’re just buying a car

considering some of the wacky planned community/company town stuff Henry Ford was imposing on his work force between the wars this in nothing
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If you knowingly provide a company discretionary money (profits) to support a cause, then you too are complicit in the cause.
 
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TPJCatholic:
norbert,

Since you seem to answer my responses with questions, I will do the same.

Do you think that Jesus would tell homosexuals to stay in their homsexual lifestyle (this is a yes or not question)?
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I don’t remember that He ever made any comment about homosexuality, so I can’t answer that question.
 
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buffalo:
If you knowingly provide a company discretionary money (profits) to support a cause, then you too are complicit in the cause.
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Admittedly, but let’s say for the sake of argument that I have money and I’m not concerned about quality. So, I go to a local Ford dealership and buy a Ford.

I’m not providing Ford money “to support a cause.” I’m exchanging money for a product, namely an automobile.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
norbert,

Okay, so do you think that the homosexual lifestyle is a moral sin, yes or no?
 
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mlchance:
Admittedly, but let’s say for the sake of argument that I have money and I’m not concerned about quality. So, I go to a local Ford dealership and buy a Ford.

I’m not providing Ford money “to support a cause.” I’m exchanging money for a product, namely an automobile.

– Mark L. Chance.
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Sure, but can’t you see in that decision you are enabling them? Why not enable companies that support moral causes?
 
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buffalo:
A chaste homosexual has no need to declare his condition to anyone. If they do it’s to promote the “gay” agenda.
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Norbert,

Please respond to this.

A chaste homosexual has no need to declare his condition to anyone. If they do it’s to promote the “gay” agenda.
 
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TPJCatholic:
norbert,

Okay, so do you think that the homosexual lifestyle is a moral sin, yes or no?
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What does the “lifestyle” mean? Does it mean being a snappy dresser, or liking Broadway musicals?
 
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buffalo:
Sure, but can’t you see in that decision you are enabling them? Why not enable companies that support moral causes?
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I can see that to a very limited extent indeed I would be enabling them. That hardly makes me complicit in the decisions of Ford’s executive directors.

As to your second question, I’ve already noted more than once: I’d not buy a Ford to begin with.

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– Mark L. Chance.
 
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buffalo:
Sure, but can’t you see in that decision you are enabling them? Why not enable companies that support moral causes?
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So, should we “enable” companies that don’t hire gays? Wouldn’t that teach the homos a lesson? They would learn that their kind is sinful, and not wanted by us normal, non-sinning people.
 
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norbert:
So, should we “enable” companies that don’t hire gays? Wouldn’t that teach the homos a lesson? They would learn that their kind is sinful, and not wanted by us normal, non-sinning people.
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Geez Norbert,

I guess we’ll have to go through this step by step.

First of all, on any application I have looked at it doesn’t ask if I am gay. That would be discrimination. A chaste homosexual doesn’t need to declare his orientation. Therefore, how would a company know?

Now if I volunteer that information on the application, I am declaring that I am a practicing homosexual. I am declaring that I am advancing an agenda.

At that point the company has a right to decline to hire.

If I declare that I am a thief, or that I am lazy, or that I am a number of other things, a company has a right not to hire me. They just don’t have the right to ask.

Your last comment - all of us are sinners. But, how many of us go around publicizing our sins? Their kind is sinful, but so am I. The difference is I try not to sin. “Gays” are denying that their lifestyle is a sin. Big difference!!!
 
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norbert:
So, should we “enable” companies that don’t hire gays? Wouldn’t that teach the homos a lesson? They would learn that their kind is sinful, and not wanted by us normal, non-sinning people.
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We should support companies that do not promote debauchery as normal, acceptable, and even honorable.
 
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Geez Norbert,

I guess we’ll have to go through this step by step.

First of all, on any application I have looked at it doesn’t ask if I am gay. That would be discrimination. A chaste homosexual doesn’t need to declare his orientation. Therefore, how would a company know?

Now if I volunteer that information on the application, I am declaring that I am a practicing homosexual. I am declaring that I am advancing an agenda.

At that point the company has a right to decline to hire.

If I declare that I am a thief, or that I am lazy, or that I am a number of other things, a company has a right not to hire me. They just don’t have the right to ask.

Your last comment - all of us are sinners. But, how many of us go around publicizing our sins? Their kind is sinful, but so am I. The difference is I try not to sin. “Gays” are denying that their lifestyle is a sin. Big difference!!!
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I don’t understand what you’re saying. My point is that, if accepting gays is wrong, then is antagonizing them right? If a company specifically said it would spend a portion of its profits to fund anti-gay rallies, or to promote an anti-gay culture in its workplace, or whatever, would that be a company that we as Catholics should support?
 
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buffalo:
If you knowingly provide a company discretionary money (profits) to support a cause, then you too are complicit in the cause.
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No, that would be like telling an Amish man that paying his taxes violates his pacifist’s principals because some of the money is used for weapons.

You can choose to spend your money else where but by your theory you are now complicit in withdrawing money from all the charities Ford supports.
 
Steve Andersen:
No, that would be like telling an Amish man that paying his taxes violates his pacifist’s principals because some of the money is used for weapons.

You can choose to spend your money else where but by your theory you are now complicit in withdrawing money from all the charities Ford supports.
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The Amish man has little say in where his tax money goes. You have 100% say in where your money goes to.
 
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norbert:
I don’t understand what you’re saying. My point is that, if accepting gays is wrong, then is antagonizing them right? If a company specifically said it would spend a portion of its profits to fund anti-gay rallies, or to promote an anti-gay culture in its workplace, or whatever, would that be a company that we as Catholics should support?
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Catholics do not accept the “gay” lifestyle or agenda. We are to love even those who promote this sinful lifestyle. However, we do not have to accept or like this behavior. True Christian charity demands fraternal correction. Not accepting their agenda is not antagonizing them. They are actually asking that we not only tolerate their “gay” lifestyle but actually want us to embrace it as a wholesome alternative.

I as a Catholic would support any company that would fight the “gay” lifetsyle or agenda. This company would not support any sinful behavior in the workplace.

Homosexuals have exactly the same rights as anyone else.
 
Thomas Monaghan, the Catholic who used to own Domino’s Pizza gave a lot of his money to charity, much to pro-life organizations. Some pro-choice organizations wanted to boycott Domino’s because it was supporting pro-life.

Monaghan said that customers were exchanging their dollars for his pizza, and they should have no say about where the profits went, as pizza buyers got the value they expected for their money.

How is the business with Ford any different? You give Monaghan or Ford your money, they give you a pizza or a car in exchange. End of transaction.
 
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