Sorry you can’t accept the truth. Misrepresenting it as being a catholic thing, thats the only place it happened to me was there so hows that misrepresenting it as a catholic thing?
This is the truth. Don’t say I’m ignorant I told you I was between the ages of 4-13 and at that time I knew nothing except the catholic school. That is not the only reason if you read the posts I state that so I don’t beleive they contradict eachother. I remember when corpral punishment was abolished in both public and privite schools and it was well after the 60’s.
Are you me? Don’t tell me my reasons. I don’t care if someone who grew up in the same era shared it does that make it ok. UNDERSTAND it happened to me, me, It happened to me and thats what matters is it happened to me. Who are you to tell me that my reasons are not real.
I use it to reject the catholic church,tell me is that what the catholic church teachs to do that to children? See the difference is you went to public school with no religious figure, I went to catholic school with all religious figures. See the diffenence?
So tell me why did you leave the Jewish faith?
I stand by what I’ve written. It would seem that even when you are exposed to the truth around you, you can only focus on you. I can tell you that you’ve made a big assumption. My grandfather was a Rabbi, I got a bigger paddeling from him than the other kids in his synagogue, at Shabbos School, however what I did not understand as a kid, and do now, is that he did it out of love. He wanted me to understand that when I acted out, or felt that being the grandson of the Rabbi would help me to get away with more was not true. Correcting ones children when they err is done not out of hatred, but out of love, and a desire that they learn good from evil. “Nuns”, Public School teachers, Baptist School teachers etc of days of yore did what they believed to be the way to raise kids. Today many are shocked and indignent, back then parents would have been upset that their kids were not punished. In reality you can hear story after story of kids in any kind of school that got jerked around at school and then again by their parents when they got home. That is the way life was, and with regard to the left handed issue, it is not a Catholic thing either, kids who were left handed had to go through all sorts of physical punishment all over the USA and England to “correct” them.
As far as your question, “…is that what the catholic church teachs (sic) to do that to children?..” Nope, I don’t think you will without God’s grace be able to understand that bad things happened to kids everywhere, that “Nuns” are not the only religious figures who hit kids, and that even where “Nuns” or other Religious Figures punished kids, it is a poor excuse for leaving a Religion.
As to your question about why I left Judaism, I’ve written it on the Forum before, but here it is again.
My family are Sephardim, (Jews with origins in Spain) During WWII my grandparents, aunt and father were given forged documents by Angelo Roncolli, the Catholic Prelate who later became Pope John XXIII, as did many bishops who had been instructed to do so by Pope Pius XII. One of the conditions was that no effort would be made to force conversion on any Jew who was supplied the documents. The USA was refusing entrance to Jews during this time, so the documents said we were Catholic from birth. When we got to the USA, my grandfather, who was a Rabbi in Salonika was hired by a congregation in the U.S. and any connection with the Catholic Church was non-existant, except for being grateful to Cardinal Roncolli and Pope Pius XII, as Gentiles of great mercy and compassion. When I was studing Medicine at a Protestant University, I heard all sorts of anti-Catholic slanders, in part because as a Sephardic Jew I have a Spanish Surname, and most assumed I was a Catholic. I could not reconcile the slanders against the Catholic Church as being consistant with what my family had experienced, so I went to Catholic sources, (Books and a very good and holy priest) to get the Catholic point of view on these anti-Catholic claims. I found them to be untrue, and the Catholic position to not only be contrary to what the Protestants were telling me, but that Jesus was in fact the Messiah we (Jews) had been waiting for. That He did indeed found a visible Church, and that it still exists today. I was the first to convert in my family. Most of my family initially was upset and would not talk to me, except my grandfather, who asked me, “Was it worth it just to have a cheeseburger?” We engaged in many talks about why I converted and he became the second person to convert. Many (not all) converted over the following ten years.
I still light Yorkzite Candles and recite Kaddish on the anniversaries of the deaths of my family who died in the Shoah. As a kid I blamed the German people, now I don’t I’ve grown up and realize that some Germans bought into the Nazi lies, others did so to save their own lives, and still others resisted, some of them died for their resistance. I still celebrate Pesach, but I now understand it as a Christian, and that it prefigures the Sacrifice of Jesus on Calvary, and the Mass.
You can throw a hissy fit, and tell me you don’t care what I think, and I should not read what you post. The reality is you are a Baptist, who is visiting a Catholic forum, and I do care what you write, but what you post just does not add up to me. The Catholic Church is bad because you had a bad experience with a handfull of Catholics. My Baptist Church is good because they are nice to me. I can find just as many Baptist Schools where what we call abuse occured as Catholic Schools, and Just as many welcoming loving Catholic parishes as Baptist. It does not make one superior to the other. What is most important is the moral and dogmatic truth that they teaches. I truly believe that it is found in the teachings of the Catholic Church, and not the Baptist Churches. You believe otherwise, (I think) but your postings really don’t seem to reflect that to me.
