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JoeyWarren
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Well I had to ask. Go check the forum.
Former Protestants: Do some Protestants worship the Bible as an Idol?
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rr1213
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Yeah, I’ve been following the responses in both threads. Fairly interesting, except those who simply won’t deal with the question head on.
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JoeyWarren
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Yes they are cowards. And they are some of more stupid Catholics here. And I will not apologize for calling them stupid. Stupid is Stupid does, you tell em Forrest! I’ve abandoned those two threads because of the blatant stupidity.
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b_justb
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LOL 
The other threads read like, “Who’s on First?”
What a gut buster.
Would you be mad if you were told not to have your rosary at mass?
Who said that?
It doesn’t matter. how would you react?
React to who?
the one that said it?
Who said it?
Look it doesn’t matter. Just suppose it was said. How would you feel?
About what?
Leaving your rosary behind!
Why woudl I do that?
Because you were told to.
By who???
LOL LOL LOL LOL
The other threads read like, “Who’s on First?”
What a gut buster.
Would you be mad if you were told not to have your rosary at mass?
Who said that?
It doesn’t matter. how would you react?
React to who?
the one that said it?
Who said it?
Look it doesn’t matter. Just suppose it was said. How would you feel?
About what?
Leaving your rosary behind!
Why woudl I do that?
Because you were told to.
By who???
LOL LOL LOL LOL
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Kevan
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If you’re talking about the two threads regarding being forbidden to take Bible or rosary to church, I’m afraid I’d have to side with the stupids. I think the problem is with the questions.
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Cat
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Jeremiah 3:8 “And I saw that for all the adulteries of faithless Israel, I had sent her away and given her a write of divorce…”
I’ve seen quite a few Protestant apologetics in favor of divorce and remarriage refer to this passage and others in the Old Testament to prove that since God was divorced, it’s OK for humans.
I don’t quite think that argument is correct, but it’s a tough subject and in spite of reading several books, I’m still not sure about MDR. I hope I never have to go through it. I’ll just do what the Church tells me to do!
I’ve seen quite a few Protestant apologetics in favor of divorce and remarriage refer to this passage and others in the Old Testament to prove that since God was divorced, it’s OK for humans.
I don’t quite think that argument is correct, but it’s a tough subject and in spite of reading several books, I’m still not sure about MDR. I hope I never have to go through it. I’ll just do what the Church tells me to do!
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MariaG
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And I’d say you and the former Catholic travelers are a bit prejudiced. This is quite apparent since even though you say you are confident that there are Protestants who do things like superstitiously keep a Bible open to keep away the devil, this is somehow worlds apart from someone who superstitiously puts an image of St. Joseph in the refrigerator? How is this worlds apart?
As for extremely common, I find that hard to believe since I have NEVER met a person who has used objects with such superstitious ideas on why they work or think the object is actually the person. Never.
And where is such a priest that speaks out against superstitious practices? Mine for one.
God bless,
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MariaG
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Catholics never would deny that an individual priest or parish could teach heresy. The Arian Heresy is proof enough of that.
What we deny is the the Official truth could ever be heretical.
There is a significant difference between the two points.
Your sister in Christ,
Maria
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Singinbeauty
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You know, I am glad I had to work today because my first reaction to this post might not have been a charitable one. At first it made me want to almost revert back to my upbringing in saying that if the catholics can’t be charitable and recognize that the protestants don’t WORSHIP the bible but respect and admire the words that it contains (Hmmmm does this argument sound familier to catholics?
) then you know what, catholics DO worship Mary and the Saints! 
I know that this is not the case. But if you expect protestants to step back and respect your veneration of Mary and the Saints how is it that you cannot do the same for us?
It’s almost hypocritical to scream WE DON’T WORSHIP MARY AND YOU ALL ARE BIGOTS, HERETICS, AND IDIOTS WHO THINK WE DO! but then in the next breath claim that protestants do worship their bibles even though you have no idea what’s in our hearts.For shame…
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JoeyWarren
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Isn’t your name a bit on the vanity side?
But back to your post.
Perceptions, Perceptions, Perceptions.
You claim we worship Saints and Mary, so I come back with a similar claim to show the stupidity of the claim.
We no more worship Saints then they worship the Bible.
But realisticially, how long would a Protestant last if he was asked to not take his Bible to Church every Sunday for a year? Could he actually stand it? The ones I know could not. That’s the reality of it.
But back to your post.
Perceptions, Perceptions, Perceptions.
You claim we worship Saints and Mary, so I come back with a similar claim to show the stupidity of the claim.
We no more worship Saints then they worship the Bible.
But realisticially, how long would a Protestant last if he was asked to not take his Bible to Church every Sunday for a year? Could he actually stand it? The ones I know could not. That’s the reality of it.
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Singinbeauty
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Wow, nice come back!
Actually, it’s Sing - In - Beauty put it together and what have you got! Singinbeauty… Sheesh…
Alright, can we get back on topic here?
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JoeyWarren
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Wow, nice come back!
Actually, it’s Sing - In - Beauty put it together and what have you got! Singinbeauty… Sheesh…
Alright, can we get back on topic here?
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JoeyWarren
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And some would not even feel like a Christian anymore without the Bible in hand every Sunday. Especially here in the south. “Toting a Bible into Church” has become an expectation and rule amongst the brethren in some churches, not all.
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Singinbeauty
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As explained, no its not… (hopefully!)
See but I DON’T CLAIM THIS. But in your statement you the question was asked, do protestants worship their bible and your answer was that they do implying that WE ALL worship our bibles. I say some catholics do worship Mary and the saints but these are misguided souls. Do ALL catholics worship Mary? No. Definitely not. But there is always the exception…
Right on!
Could you stand a year without praying to Mary or the Saints??? The question is moot because neither side could do it according to their beliefs which, as I have stated in MANY other threads, is our CORE. Our beliefs are WHO we are. If we deny ourselves the practice of our beliefs we become mere shells of our former selves. You can’t do it. Because that connection you have through Mary is your lifeline to God just as His words printed in the Bible are very near and dear to my heart. I could not go without His Word for a year because it is the knowledge of Him through those pages that I hunger for.
Make sense?
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MariaG
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Since I wouldn’t last if I did not have a missal from which to read the scripture readings, I can’t say as I blame people who would not wish to be without their bible so as to be able to turn to the scripture the pastor is discussing on the day.
Bringing a bible or reading from the missal is a learning, make sure I understand what is being said issue, not an idolatry issue.
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jmcrae
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Mine, too. We had that St. Jude Miraculous Novena circulating around here last summer, until Father got up and mentioned that it was very superstitious, and not in accord with Catholic beliefs.
I think that one must have been put out by a photocopy franchise, because the idea behind that one is that you pray the prayers for nine days in a row, and then you make 81 copies of the prayer and put them all over the Church - we were about to be buried in them until Father finally forbade them to be put in the Church. He also asked everyone to be vigilant, and as soon as they show up, take them out of the Church and throw them away at home, so that nobody can pick through the trash and find them again.
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Kevan
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No, I said that Catholic practices and Protestant practices in this area are worlds apart. Several times in my posts I used the word “generally,” just to make sure that nobody would respond as you did. I conceded that superstition could be found in any group, but I’m alleging that superstitious behavior is characteristic of the Catholic community in a way that it isn’t of the Protestant community.
Well, I never claimed that I know what the people think. I just told you what they do and how contributors to this forum have defended it. And what I’ve seen, I’ve seen plenty of times; so many times, in fact, that I’m quite surprised that you question it.
Would you mind stating just what he has said publicly about the things I’m grousing about? Would he publicly state that, for instance, burying an image of St. Joseph in your yard to make your house sell is contrary to the Christian religion and displeasing to God?
In my tradition, the preachers make it clear that the Bible is not to be treated as a talisman or as a tool of divination (letting it fall open and considering the first verse you see to be divine guidance). And if someone were to commit such an error, he’d be gently corrected by the first Christian who saw it. Bottom line, that stuff just isn’t a part of our worldview.
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MariaG
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Respectfully, you go a little too far in this analogy attempt. We do have a connection to Mary, but she is not our lifeline to God.Could you stand a year without praying to Mary or the Saints??? The question is moot because neither side could do it according to their beliefs which, as I have stated in MANY other threads, is our CORE. Our beliefs are WHO we are. If we deny ourselves the practice of our beliefs we become mere shells of our former selves. You can’t do it. Because **that connection you have through Mary is your lifeline to God **just as His words printed in the Bible are very near and dear to my heart. I could not go without His Word for a year because it is the knowledge of Him through those pages that I hunger for.
Make sense?
And while it would be pointless to go without asking Mary for her prayers and deny ourselves of the communion of Saints given to us by Christ through His body, we could still learn and grow in Him if we choose to ignore the communion of Saints available to all Christians.
However, Catholic Christians would agree with you that going without His word for a year would be impossible. To do so, one would have to either not go to Mass or ignore almost everyword of the Mass in order to not listen to or read His Word.
God bless,
Maria
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Gottle_of_Geer
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I was thinking of two things:
- The addition of 27 books to the Tanakh - which is why we have an NT, & not just an “OT”
- The fact of textual variation
Any theory about a Bible-in-heaven has to take account of what happens on earth: the same applies to the notion of the eternity of the Koran; or of anything on earth that is said to be a copy of something in heaven.
- The fact of textual variation
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