Found a description of a 1950's housewife!!

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Hi,

Thanks very much for this comment. It help me to think about my ideals.

Tks again and pls keep posting.
 
Sooooooo…
What’s the general concensus about this? Should women be doing this? Why or why not? Guys, I would like your opinion too 🙂
These are from the 1950’s for a reason. Can’t imagine this in this day and age. I’m a guy, by the way.
 
Fortunately, my mom and all the other moms in the neighborhood were 1950s housewives. Husbands/fathers worked and moms stayed home to help raise their kids. Their kids. Yes, she did the housework, and, if necessary, did other work around the house. My Dad did his part also. So, instead of being stressed out by each parent working two jobs, one of them was able to go at a more relaxed pace. When one of the kids got sick, she was home to care for him or her.

Things started going downhill when both parents had to work, kids ended up in daycare or spent hours at home unsupervised.

God bless,
Ed
Hi Ed.
So, sorry for me asking… but which of your parents was able to go at a more relaxed pace?
 
Sounds about right. My fiancee and I both like the list; find one for the 1950s man and I’m sure we’d like that too
 
Hi,

Thanks very much for this comment. It help me to think about my ideals.

Tks again and pls keep posting.
LOL! You do realize the fruits of those ideals, don’t you? Think about the late 1960’s!!!

I realize that this is your first post to CAF, but it’s against forum rules to resurrect old threads after a certain amount of time and it would be a good idea to start a new thread if the last post was made more than two years ago.
 
From a Home Economics class in the 1950’s…
  • Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or lie him down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him.
I saw an ad in a 1950s Time Magazine of a husband sitting comfortable in his recliner reading the newspaper while his wife sat on the floor in her poodle skirt holding up a tray of his favorite beer while gazing lovely at him. I showed it to DW and her response was: “Yeah right, don’t ever count on that happening.”
 
What’s the general concensus about this? Should women be doing this? Why or why not? Guys, I would like your opinion too 🙂
My MIL majored in home economics in the 1940s. The opinion then was about what it is now: Anybody who tells you that a wife ought not be concerned if her husband doesn’t choose to come home is off her rocker. There has never been a time in history where wives did not complain when their husbands did not come home late, let alone if they didn’t come home at all, and there never will be. There has never been a time in history when the consensus of wives was that they had no right to complain about anything their husbands chose to do, and there never will be.

Rather, my very Catholic grandmother and the women her age often used to say:
The man is the head of the house. The wife, though, is the neck, and it is the neck that determines the direction that the head turns! 😃
 
Rather, my very Catholic grandmother and the women her age often used to say:
The man is the head of the house. The wife, though, is the neck, and it is the neck that determines the direction that the head turns! 😃
which has always struck me as a subversive thing to say, despite that it’s popular and humorous. I see no difference with it and men lording their headship over others --family, wife – to their detriment; in this case it’s just a more subtle power grab.
 
From a Home Economics class in the 1950’s…
  • Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have be thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they get home and the prospect of a good meal is part of the warm welcome needed.
  • Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you’ll be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh-looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people.
  • Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a lift and one of your duties is to provide it.
  • Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives. Run a dustcloth over the tables.
  • During the cooler months of the year you should prepare and light a fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering to his comfort will provide you with immense personal satisfaction.
  • Minimize all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of the washer, dryer or vacuum. Encourage the children to be quiet.
  • Be happy to see him.
  • Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerity in your desire to please him.
  • Listen to him. You may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first - remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours.
  • Don’t greet him with complaints and problems.
  • Don’t complain if he’s late for dinner or even if he stays out all night. Count this as minor compared to what he might have gone through at work.
  • Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or lie him down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him.
  • Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing and pleasant voice.
  • Don’t ask him questions about his actions or question his judgment or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him.
  • A good wife always knows her place.
Sooooooo…
What’s the general concensus about this? Should women be doing this? Why or why not? Guys, I would like your opinion too 🙂
Hahaha!! This is awful to the point of being creepy!

:rotfl:

Thanks for posting this… gave me a good laugh!
 
Haha, I had totally forgotten about this thread!

It still makes for a good chuckle 🙂
 
Rather, my very Catholic grandmother and the women her age often used to say:
The man is the head of the house. The wife, though, is the neck, and it is the neck that determines the direction that the head turns! 😃
That was a line in “My Big Fat Greek Wedding”!
 
which has always struck me as a subversive thing to say, despite that it’s popular and humorous. I see no difference with it and men lording their headship over others --family, wife – to their detriment; in this case it’s just a more subtle power grab.
These were happily married women talking, and they had good marriages where the husbands and wives worked things out together. They had children who knew that the worst punishment they would ever get would be if one parent saw them showing disrespect towards the other parent!

Their other most-common quip was, “We would never resort to divorce. Homicide, maybe, but never divorce!” They and their spouses all died a natural death in old age, most of them after 50 or 60 years of marriage.

Lighten up!
 
Sounds about right. My fiancee and I both like the list; find one for the 1950s man and I’m sure we’d like that too
Yeah. It does sound about right to people who aren’t married with children.

Get married and decide that you can stay out as late as you like with no explanations due to your wife, decide that she needs to find a fresh riboon for her hair to meet you at the door after cleaning up barf or breaking up fights all day, and then check back in about how that works out for you in practice. I hope you realize that it is a total load of barf before she does, for your both of your sakes.

I have seen one for the 1950’s man that you might like very much, though. It was a seminar titled, “How to Get Your Wife to Treat You Like a King.” The answer, of course, is to treat her like a queen. (That little list that kicked off this thread ain’t it, to put it mildly.)

Am I saying that spouses should not include little affectionate routines in their lives? Of course not. Those are great, and I highly recommend them. The whole picture given, though, is way over the top. If I did that, my husband would be the one barfing.
 
Get married and decide that you can stay out as late as you like with no explanations due to your wife, decide that she needs to find a fresh riboon for her hair to meet you at the door after cleaning up barf or breaking up fights all day, and then check back in about how that works out for you in practice. I hope you realize that it is a total load of barf before she does, for your both of your sakes.
I don’t agree with the staying out late bit, because I don’t think its justified and there should be a reason. But I’ve seen plenty of happy couples who manage not to let their standards fall and feel the need to mock ideals out of their own insecurity. The same also comes out a lot when people ask if physical appearance etc is important – a lot of people who have let themselves go will come out of the woodwork and say how staying in shape is an impossibly high standard and laughable. The book “Cana is Forever” – a good one written in 1949 by Fr. Charles Hugo Doyle – comes to mind. He could have written the same list, with Catholic tweaks, for each gender. (he more or less did in the book, anyway)
 
I have seen one for the 1950’s man that you might like very much, though. It was a seminar titled, “How to Get Your Wife to Treat You Like a King.” The answer, of course, is to treat her like a queen. (That little list that kicked off this thread ain’t it, to put it mildly.)
I do like it, and don’t see why we shouldn’t assume the gentleman listed in the thread deserves it because he treats his wife in the same way. You know, since we are to be charitable on this forum.

boiled down, this is the list that people are besides themselves laughing and guffawing at:

-have dinner read
-look good for him
  • act excited to see him
    -keep the house clean
    -comfort him
    -say hi to him
    -listen to him
    -don’t complain
    -don’t be suspicious
    -remember your vows
maybe if a complementary list of

-thank her for her cooking, and if she’s forgotten something don’t bring it up, since she’s had a long day
-look good for her, and remind her how good she looks for you
-always thank her, don’t be rude and insensitive
-be excited to see her, regardless of your day
-ask her how her day was, let her voice complaints
-don’t put work above your family. if you are going to be late, let her know ahead of time
-reassure her
-remember your vows

were created, people wouldn’t be getting their knickers in a twist over some pretty standard things. If the list had been edited for more modern language, the part regarding the 1950s (a bad word) left out, and a complementary list for men been created, I don’t see what the fuss would be about.
 
I do like it, and don’t see why we shouldn’t assume the gentleman listed in the thread deserves it because he treats his wife in the same way. You know, since we are to be charitable on this forum.

boiled down, this is the list that people are besides themselves laughing and guffawing at:

-have dinner read
-look good for him
  • act excited to see him
    -keep the house clean
    -comfort him
    -say hi to him
    -listen to him
    -don’t complain
    -don’t be suspicious
    -remember your vows
maybe if a complementary list of

-thank her for her cooking, and if she’s forgotten something don’t bring it up, since she’s had a long day
-look good for her, and remind her how good she looks for you
-always thank her, don’t be rude and insensitive
-be excited to see her, regardless of your day
-ask her how her day was, let her voice complaints
-don’t put work above your family. if you are going to be late, let her know ahead of time
-reassure her
-remember your vows

were created, people wouldn’t be getting their knickers in a twist over some pretty standard things. If the list had been edited for more modern language, the part regarding the 1950s (a bad word) left out, and a complementary list for men been created, I don’t see what the fuss would be about.
I remember my aunt, now married over 60 years, noted with some disdain a fellow baseball wife who would make her daily declaration that “I must go prepare myself for Cal”, her husband. Cal’s wife seems to have been adhering to something very much like that original list, but Cal and his wife didn’t stay married. My aunt did not find this any surprise.

Let me clarify: The original list gives a false view of a sustaining marital love, for many reasons. I say this as a wife who stays at home with her PhD, plans her meals with care concerning what her husband likes, etc., etc… Again, I’m not saying that affectionate little routines don’t have an important place in marriage. I’m saying that the list misrepresents itself as the definitive version of the affectionate marital routine.

When one person breaks her neck to provide “musts” that the other person didn’t ask for and may not even want, it is a recipe for mutual resentment. Note that in the original list, the husband has been out of the house all day, but he is the one whose needs include relief of boredom. IOW, the original list presumes to know what all husbands need, rather than guiding wives to communicate with their husbands what their real needs and expectations are. The last thing my husband wants when he gets home is for me to be interesting. His brains are fried and he has been interested to death all day long!

By the original list, a wife’s evening should be planned so as to revolve around her husband’s comfort, she is supposed to see to every detail of that, but she is not supposed to complain if he doesn’t feel like availing himself of this lavish homecoming. It doesn’t say, “remember that sometimes he will be somewhere other than home for dinner”, but rather that she has no perogative to question any reason or any amount of time he makes himself absent from home. How is that setting her up for the expectation that he will not be “rude and insensitive”? The original list tells her that this kind of rudeness is her husband’s right!

Your list is not complementary. Your list takes the wife out of “her place”, as described by the original list. You encourage a husband to listen to his wife’s complaints and ask about her day, while the original list forbids her from voicing those things. What is the perfect wife supposed to do with that internal conflict? Notice that her rules say, “Don’t ask him questions about his actions or question his judgment or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him.” Your list tells husbands not to be insensitive or rude, but the original list supposes that such a thing is impossible by the nature of the husband’s role in the home.

The truth is that a wife is sometimes called upon to be the Prophet Nathan to her husband’s King David. Even when someone is in a position of authority, no one is ever in a position where there is no one with the duty to question their failings. Yet the original list goes over the line to take the wife from a position of submission to one of utter subordination.

Forget the original list. Rather, look to St. Paul’s description in Ephesians, in light of the Lord’s teaching to his Apostles about how Christian leadership looks different than the images of authority that the world teaches. Look at the letters to the Corinthians, to the Phillipians. Read the Gospels, read the Epistles. Those teach what Christian love and Christian marriage really look like. Make your affectionate routines according to those templates, and you will do very well. I think you’ll get lots of footrubs, too…if that is the kind of thing you like at the end of the day!
 
I don’t know what’s wrong with doing something for someone she loves and that includes her children, parents and so on but no I don’t think it’s appropriate to make a list for a wife/husband. MEN, Do you get lists from your wives? and if so does she get angry when it’s not done eg like mow the lawn?
 
I remember my aunt, now married over 60 years, noted with some disdain a fellow baseball wife who would make her daily declaration that “I must go prepare myself for Cal”, her husband. Cal’s wife seems to have been adhering to something very much like that original list, but Cal and his wife didn’t stay married. My aunt did not find this any surprise.

Let me clarify: The original list gives a false view of a sustaining marital love, for many reasons. I say this as a wife who stays at home with her PhD, plans her meals with care concerning what her husband likes, etc., etc… Again, I’m not saying that affectionate little routines don’t have an important place in marriage. I’m saying that the list misrepresents itself as the definitive version of the affectionate marital routine.

When one person breaks her neck to provide “musts” that the other person didn’t ask for and may not even want, it is a recipe for mutual resentment. Note that in the original list, the husband has been out of the house all day, but he is the one whose needs include relief of boredom. IOW, the original list presumes to know what all husbands need, rather than guiding wives to communicate with their husbands what their real needs and expectations are. The last thing my husband wants when he gets home is for me to be interesting. His brains are fried and he has been interested to death all day long!

By the original list, a wife’s evening should be planned so as to revolve around her husband’s comfort, she is supposed to see to every detail of that, but she is not supposed to complain if he doesn’t feel like availing himself of this lavish homecoming. It doesn’t say, “remember that sometimes he will be somewhere other than home for dinner”, but rather that she has no perogative to question any reason or any amount of time he makes himself absent from home. How is that setting her up for the expectation that he will not be “rude and insensitive”? The original list tells her that this kind of rudeness is her husband’s right!

Your list is not complementary. Your list takes the wife out of “her place”, as described by the original list. You encourage a husband to listen to his wife’s complaints and ask about her day, while the original list forbids her from voicing those things. What is the perfect wife supposed to do with that internal conflict? Notice that her rules say, “Don’t ask him questions about his actions or question his judgment or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him.” Your list tells husbands not to be insensitive or rude, but the original list supposes that such a thing is impossible by the nature of the husband’s role in the home.

The truth is that a wife is sometimes called upon to be the Prophet Nathan to her husband’s King David. Even when someone is in a position of authority, no one is ever in a position where there is no one with the duty to question their failings. Yet the original list goes over the line to take the wife from a position of submission to one of utter subordination.

Forget the original list. Rather, look to St. Paul’s description in Ephesians, in light of the Lord’s teaching to his Apostles about how Christian leadership looks different than the images of authority that the world teaches. Look at the letters to the Corinthians, to the Phillipians. Read the Gospels, read the Epistles. Those teach what Christian love and Christian marriage really look like. Make your affectionate routines according to those templates, and you will do very well. I think you’ll get lots of footrubs, too…if that is the kind of thing you like at the end of the day!
Well said! 👍
 
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