Founder of "Positive" Muslim TV Channel charged with beheading wife...

[ChristIsLord]

I guess murder is a culture phenomenon in our country. We have more murders and felony crimes committed per capita here then any other western culture democracy. Mostly committed by Christians. I don’t believe we have a right to generalize about an incident that somehow in some minds becomes rampant behaviour…Unbelievable!

   Yes this man will get his day in court and yes this man will do his time.   Just like any criminal that might be Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Atheist or other.....

first of all i’m not a christian so you can save your ridiculous red herrings…

that said i would wager the reason why we have so many crimes has a lot to do with the freedoms we’re afforded here, that and we have a huge legal and penal system, much larger than any other country, our law enforcement agencies are the largest and best trained on earth. not to mention the mix of all different peoples in at times very tightly populated areas certainly raises the tensions and the crime rates. so do we commit more crimes? or do we just get caught more?

my point is, when muslims are murdering people be it “moderate western muslims” or “fanatics” it seems to be beheading as the method of choice. i am wondering if that’s a cultural thing… save me the other nonsense…

 

[agnostic_in_ist]

      I am white background but not afraid to give both sides to religious stories.

BALONEY! You are neither white nor Catholic. You are muslim and most likely of Indian origin.

Your hatred of the Catholic church and the Bible betrays you you typical, mindless, soulless, deceitful mo-bot.

 

[impalass]

first of all i’m not a christian so you can save your ridiculous red herrings…

that said i would wager the reason why we have so many crimes has a lot to do with the freedoms we’re afforded here, that and we have a huge legal and penal system, much larger than any other country, our law enforcement agencies are the largest and best trained on earth. not to mention the mix of all different peoples in at times very tightly populated areas certainly raises the tensions and the crime rates. so do we commit more crimes? or do we just get caught more?

my point is, when muslims are murdering people be it “moderate western muslims” or “fanatics” it seems to be beheading as the method of choice. i am wondering if that’s a cultural thing… save me the other nonsense…

   Confusing?    You call yourself   Christislord but you say you are not a Christian.   What are you saying?

   Beheading I would believe is a cultural tradition.   I might be wrong, it doesn't go along with the method in our western culture. Such crimes here as you know are committed  by guns, knives, strangulation etc.  Have their been beheadings and torsos cut up here by western culture criminals?.  Absolutely.  I believe this Muslim is under the micro scope because many conservative Christians are ignorant of many from other cultures and so this guy is easy fodder.   I treat all law abiding people equally regardless where they are from and I also believe in justice for all.

Off topic:   Yes we do have the largest penal system in the western world, but its obvious our deterents don't seem to work like they should.  Reciticism rates for many crimes here committed are extremely high.  Especially crimes like sexual abuse which is one of the most heinous crimes committed.  

 This Muslim  charged will have his day in court.

 

[R_not]

In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

American Christians beat wives or girlfriends in every 9 seconds , many Christians men abuse Christian pregnant women regularly but u say it’s not part of Christians culture . Then why blame Islam for acts of some bad Muslims ?

And muslim nations don’t even keep statistics on their abuses against muslim women - OR on their abuses of non-muslims.

Now, you need to prove this statistic you have. And tell me what happens when a woman is beaten senseless in a muslim country, or killed in a muslim country.

Then tell me what happens in this country.

Does any muslim country have any safe houses? The West has these things.

 

[Reuben_J]

   Beheading I would believe is a cultural tradition.   I might be wrong, it doesn't go along with the method in our western culture. Such crimes here as you know are committed  by guns, knives, strangulation etc.  Have their been beheadings and torsos cut up here by western culture criminals?.  Absolutely.  I believe this Muslim is under the micro scope because many conservative Christians are ignorant of many from other cultures and so this guy is easy fodder.

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 This Muslim  charged will have his day in court.

Crime aside, I put it to you that beheading is Quranic in nature. There is a verse that says ‘to smite above the neck’ which is obviously decapitation.

 

[impalass]

BALONEY! You are neither white nor Catholic. You are muslim and most likely of Indian origin.

Your hatred of the Catholic church and the Bible betrays you you typical, mindless, soulless, deceitful mo-bot.

Wow! So much anger, hatred and bigotry from a catholic. I was baptized a catholic long before you came out of the hills my friend.
Cowboy… Why are you so angry with Muslims? They are immigrating into the United States at a very high rate. So are people from all corners of the world.

As stated before,  I believe that beheading is possibly a cultural way in their country.   That might be all he knows.  That is their way of life.   

One more point.  I believe Atheists make up about 17% of the current population of the USA.  10 years ago less then 9%.   Big changes coming to america.  No I am not an atheist but I find these statistics interesting.   Now settle down.

 

[impalass]

Crime aside, I put it to you that beheading is Quranic in nature. There is a verse that says ‘to smite above the neck’ which is obviously decapitation.

   If thats their way, thats their way..........were not going to change that.  We are not going to say that Muslims cannot come into our country.  There are millions here now that contribute greatly.  Are there bad apple?.  Certainly, just like our own bad apples.   How often do we here of beheading.  This is the first time for me.

   Off topic:  

   It wasn't many generations ago in america that we bought and sold slaves.  Slavery was also in our bible.  Were not squeaky clean either.  From a  non practicing catholic.

 

[agnostic_in_ist]

Wow! So much anger, hatred and bigotry from a catholic. I was baptized a catholic long before you came out of the hills my friend.
Cowboy… Why are you so angry with Muslims? They are immigrating into the United States at a very high rate. So are people from all corners of the world.

As stated before,  I believe that beheading is possibly a cultural way in their country.   That might be all he knows.  That is their way of life.   

One more point.  I believe Atheists make up about 17% of the current population of the USA.  10 years ago less then 9%.   Big changes coming to america.  No I am not an atheist but I find these statistics interesting.   Now settle down.

Yep, you’re a mo-bot. Only mo-bots are too bloody stupid to read ids and understand that MRS means married, and AGNOSTIC means most definitely NOT Catholic.

For your future taqiyaa attempts, mo-bot, here’s a little advice: Catholics usually don’t spew BS about priests, the Church and the Bible like you did. Which, by-the-way demonstrate your own hatred and bigotry. Only mo-bots, like you do that. It’s a classic mo-bot ad hominem attack.

 

[impalass]

And muslim nations don’t even keep statistics on their abuses against muslim women - OR on their abuses of non-muslims.

Now, you need to prove this statistic you have. And tell me what happens when a woman is beaten senseless in a muslim country, or killed in a muslim country.

Then tell me what happens in this country.

Does any muslim country have any safe houses? The West has these things.

 Off topic:

 What safe houses are there for the thousands of children sexually abused by catholic priests that still goes on today?  You don't here many catholics talk about that issue or offer help to those that have been violated.   The church is  only addressing the issue because they got caught. 

  Our divorce rates ais nearing  50%.   A lot of discention in our own country.  Lets not forget, currently america does not have one race of people that is the majority.  We have millions from all parts of the world that currently make up the fabric of our country.  Thats what makes us so great with our democracy that states we are all equal.   This muslim man will face the music for his crime.  It might act as a deterent for others that might have the tendancy when things go wrong in their relationships.

From the non-practicing catholic.

 

[ralphinal]

Off topic:

 What safe houses are there for the thousands of children sexually abused by catholic priests that still goes on today?  You don't here many catholics talk about that issue or offer help to those that have been violated.   The church is  only addressing the issue because they got caught. 

  Our divorce rates ais nearing  50%.   A lot of discention in our own country.  Lets not forget, currently america does not have one race of people that is the majority.  We have millions from all parts of the world that currently make up the fabric of our country.  Thats what makes us so great with our democracy that states we are all equal.   This muslim man will face the music for his crime.  It might act as a deterent for others that might have the tendancy when things go wrong in their relationships.

From the non-practicing catholic.

The sex abuse issue is not germain to this thread. Neither is the issue of divorce statistics in America.

No one will learn from what happens to this guy. Those who will abuse/kill their spouses will continue to do so.

 

[impalass]

Yep, you’re a mo-bot. Only mo-bots are too bloody stupid to read ids and understand that MRS means married, and AGNOSTIC means most definitely NOT Catholic.

For your future taqiyaa attempts, mo-bot, here’s a little advice: Catholics usually don’t spew BS about priests, the Church and the Bible like you did. Which, by-the-way demonstrate your own hatred and bigotry. Only mo-bots, like you do that. It’s a classic mo-bot ad hominem attack.

  Off topic

  What is a mo-bot?   Are you a mo-bot?

 Catholics don't spew BS about priests.   Know don't spew BS,  spew the truth.  Thousands have molested our children.  Or do you still have your head in the sand like most catholics do about this worldwide  issue.   Why do you think 5 USA catholic dioceses and more to come have filed bankruptcy.   The sex abuse scandal.   Don't blame me, blame those that caused this huge mess.......mo-bot.  

  Catholics like to criticise but cannot accept criticism themselves.  Thats the catholic way.

   Its obvious you are ignorant and bigoted about people from other countries that aren't just like you.  Its all in your upbringing.......I have seen it before.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Salaam/ Peace

It has been pointed out that honor killing has strong basis in the Quran.

really ?? Where is the verse that says a father can kill his daugther or husband can murder wife ?

 

[impalass]

The sex abuse issue is not germain to this thread. Neither is the issue of divorce statistics in America.

No one will learn from what happens to this guy. Those who will abuse/kill their spouses will continue to do so.

You say those who will abuse/kill their spouses will continue todo so? Are you talking about Muslims Or all people in america?

 

[ralphinal]

You say those who will abuse/kill their spouses will continue todo so? Are you talking about Muslims Or all people in america?

Either way.

History has shown that those who will break the law, and that includes spouse abuse, almost never learn from the punishment of others.

Many of them do not learn from their own punishment

 

[Muslim_Woman]

** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Salaam/ Peace

There is a verse that says ‘to smite above the neck’ .

I can post many verses on war , killing from Bible .

The Quranic verse you are refering to is about war … how to fight with enemies . It’s nothing to do with killing wife.

 

[agnostic_in_ist]

You are a typical muslim POS that cannot read and comprehend. What part of “most definitely NOT Catholic” did you NOT understand?

You muslims are always the first to scream and cry racism, bigotry and “you do not respect our culture!” Yet you make no bones about your hatred of America, the Catholic church and anyone who calls you mo-bots out for what you are.

What part of “in istanbul” in the ID do you NOT understand you islamic git?

I have lived in more countries and experiences more cultures than you ever will living in your little islamic bubble.

The only bit of “truthful” taqiyya you have spewed is the bit about America being great because it is a multi-cultural society. It is great but ONLY because those cultures have blended and assimilated. Mo-bot assimilation is kin to Borg assimilation. It is impossible for you mo-bots to blend into any society.

And you are now ignored. Dialogue with you mo-bots is like talking to semi-retarded, forked-tongued brick walls.

 

[sedonaman]

Do u believe God says in Quran or there is any hadith that says husbands will go to heaven if they kill their wives ?

It’s not considered good debate form to answer a question with a question. What I believe is irrelevant to your answer to my question. So where in scripture does Mohammed say what you claim he said?

 

[sedonaman]

Islam does not allow husbands to kill wives. Those husbands will get due punishments on the Judgment Day if somehow can manage avoiding it in this world.

Can you produce just one case in one Islamic country where an Islamic court severely punished a husband for murdering his wife?

 

[meedo]

You are a typical muslim POS that cannot read and comprehend. What part of “most definitely NOT Catholic” did you NOT understand?

You muslims are always the first to scream and cry racism, bigotry and “you do not respect our culture!” Yet you make no bones about your hatred of America, the Catholic church and anyone who calls you mo-bots out for what you are.

What part of “in istanbul” in the ID do you NOT understand you islamic git?

I have lived in more countries and experiences more cultures than you ever will living in your little islamic bubble.

The only bit of “truthful” taqiyya you have spewed is the bit about America being great because it is a multi-cultural society. It is great but ONLY because those cultures have blended and assimilated. Mo-bot assimilation is kin to Borg assimilation. It is impossible for you mo-bots to blend into any society.

And you are now ignored. Dialogue with you mo-bots is like talking to semi-retarded, forked-tongued brick walls.

The ''love your enemy ‘’ teaching is is wetting the floor around you from abundance.

This whole Christianity thing is just not working.

good luck,

 

[sedonaman]

I believe that is exactly the point she is trying to make. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Waitaminnit. Wait just one cotton-pickin’ minnit. The question of this thread is about whether or not Islam condones wife killing. MW, et al, have used the typical Muslim tactic of shifting the argument to alleged Christians allegedly killing their alleged wives/girlfriends. This is nothing more than an attempt, and a weak one at that, to pull Christianity down to the level of Islam. Whether or not Christians do evil is irrelevant to the question.