Fox News Columnist Goes Off The Rails, Links Pope Francis to Satan

[meltzerboy]

Is that Catholic teaching?

I’m not Catholic, but it sounds to me more like Evangelical than Catholic teaching.

With regard to the OP, surely this individual columnist does not represent the whole Republican Party’s feelings about the Pope.

 

[cath4alltime]

When the Holy Spirit makes Judge Napolitano the Pope, then he can do things differently. I am discouraged by Pope Francis in many ways, but a “false prophet” he is not.

When I inquired about the Pope being chosen by the Holy Spirit I was promptly told h was not on here and other catholic forums

 

[Colorad007]

“…if his concern is more for the secular than sacred…”

This false distiction between two realms is part of the problem. The kingdom of heaven is to permeate the so called “secular” realm. That is what the Church and the pope are all about…bringing about that kingdom.

With all due respect, that is Protestantism. The distinction between nature and grace, sacred and secular, is at the very heart of Thomistic theology, and so the theology of the Church.

 

[Marie5890]

I doubt Pope Francis has ever been poor. I have experienced it first hand. I know too well the physical and emotional scars it leaves.

Francis is a Jesuit. He has taken a vow of poverty, so yes, he knows what it means to be poor.

Read a biography on him.

 

[Church_Militant]

By Andrew P. Napolitano - - Wednesday, September 23, 2015

Rep. Thomas Massie, Kentucky Republican, has invited me to the House of Representatives to watch Pope Francis address a joint session of Congress. This generous Methodist congressman has invited your traditionalist Roman Catholic columnist and cable TV guy to this grand event. I am going with joy because the pope is the vicar of Christ on Earth, and his presence in Congress is historically unique. But within me is fear and trembling over what he might say.

Okay, so if this guy is so “traditional” why is he so tight with a “heretic” Methodist?

While the papacy is a monarchy, the teaching authority in the Church is “the bishops under the pope.” This means that a pope intent on change ought to consult with his fellow bishops.

I’m just wondering how he figures Pope Francis hasn’t done that.:ehh:

Before the monumental Church changes of the 1960s and 1970s that trivialized the Mass and blurred the distinctions between the clergy and the laity,

That;s just crazy since it has by no means happened.

Popes John XXIII and Paul VI consulted their fellow bishops at Vatican II. The consultations were fractious and belligerent, but both popes got what they wanted: a watering down of liturgical practices and an easing of rules safeguarding the sacraments, so as to make the Church more appealing and accessible to former and to non-adherents.

Complete and specious bunkum.

The result was a disaster. Fewer Catholics went to Mass, confusion about former theological norms reigned, and a general tenor pervaded the faithful that the Church never really meant what it preached. Former Catholics continued to stay away, new Catholics barely showed up, and many traditional faithful became demoralized.

Oh…you mean Bishop Lefebre and his SSPX schismatics? To my knowledge we traditional Catholics were always big on obedience to the church and respect and charity towards the clergy…especially the Pope. So what’s his excuse for this kind of polemics.

Comes now Pope Francis to use moral relativism to take the Church in two dangerous directions. The first is an assault on the family, and the second is an assault on the free market — two favorite political targets of the left.

I don’t think this guy would know relativism if it barked in his face.

If he was a judge, no wonder our country is so screwed up.

In the past month, without consulting his fellow bishops, the pope has weakened the sacrament of matrimony by making annulments easier to obtain.

Hmm…these words of Our Blessed Lord Jesus Christ comes to mind…Matthew 9:[11] And the Pharisees seeing it, said to his disciples: Why doth your master eat with publicans and sinners? [12] But Jesus hearing it, said: They that are in health need not a physician, but they that are ill. [13] Go then and learn what this meaneth, I will have mercy and not sacrifice. For I am not come to call the just, but sinners."
(Cont’d)

 

[Church_Militant]

Last week, Pope Francis arbitrarily ordered the entire process to be completed in 45 days or fewer. For contested matters, a fair trial in 45 days is impossible. So, to meet his deadline, more annulments will be granted administratively, not on the merits.

That’s hogwash…especially coming from a former judge in a system where “a fair trial” very frequently takes far far less than 45 days.

It gets worse. The Church has taught for 400 years that abortion is murder. Because the victim of an abortion is always innocent, helpless and uniquely under the control of the mother, abortion removes the participants from access to the sacraments. Until now. Last week, Pope Francis, without consulting his fellow bishops, ordered that any priest may return those who have killed a baby in a womb to the communion of the faithful. He said he did this because he was moved by the anguished cries of mothers contemplating the murder of their babies.

This from a guy who was part of the same system that made abortion legal in this country and upheld that by his very oath of office? Seems hypocritical to me…

I doubt he will defend these decisions before Congress. He will, instead, assault the free market, which he blames for poverty, pollution and the mass migrations into Europe away from worn-torn areas in the Middle East.

Since the US congress and the U.N. don’t have any jurisdiction over the faith and morals of the church but do indeed have jurisdiction over the other issues.

In his papal exhortation on capitalism, Pope Francis spectacularly failed to appreciate the benefits of capitalism to the health, wealth and safety of the poor.

Oh sure…it’s certainly benefited all the poor in the world…a real success story that, right?

Instead, he has reworked the Peronism of his youth to advocate government-mandated redistribution of wealth and to condemn those who work hard, employ others and achieve wealth — even when they give some of that wealth to the Church.

Here again he misstates Pope Francis and I can’t help but wonder why a former judge would so publicly perjure himself like that. I have read the encyclical he refers to and did not find any such wording and the document is a matter of public record.

When he is in St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York City later this week, he should take note of the recent and beautiful $200 million face-lift. It was paid in full by rich Catholic capitalists who employed hardworking artisans and laborers to do the work.

Seems he lacks a working knowledge of our Bible where Our Lord says…“Matthew 6:3 But when thou dost alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doth.”

The pope probably also will tell Congress that the world is an inherently unhealthy place because of human work. He will embrace the highly questionable green science of those who want the government to tell us how to live, outside our homes and inside — more Thomas Piketty than St. Thomas Aquinas.

Maybe he should have waited and carefully listened to Pope Francis…

The pope has seriously disappointed those who believe the Roman Catholic Church preserves and teaches the Truth.

Wait…what? I happen to be one of those faithful Catholics “who believe the Roman Catholic Church preserves and teaches the Truth” and I don’t believe any such thing. Am I alone in that? I don’t believe I am…not even close.

The Truth is Christ risen and unity with Him. It is not a debate about the minimum wage or air conditioning.

Funny, but I haven’t seen any such debate, so this is nothing more than a specious polemical exaggeration of the same type I have often seen used by anti-Catholics. I wonder if this guy likes to be included in their company?

Pope Francis is popular on the world stage, and the crowds love him.

Pope Francis responded to something along this line with the following.*** “Jesus also, for a certain time, was very popular, and look at how that turned out,” “So nobody has their happiness guaranteed in this world.” *
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But if he fails in his basic duties as the pope, if his concern is more for secular than sacred, if he aids the political agenda of the atheistic left, he is a false prophet leading his flock to a dangerous place, where there is more central planning and less personal liberty.

And you were a lawyer!? And this is the kind of argument that you make? Obviously you make your argument with no basis in fact…yep…that sounds like a typically bad lawyer. Shame on you sir…

 

[Kevin12]

Sorry,my post was in reply to Michael. I was not criticizing Pope Francis. His intentions are good
.Personally I do not believe the UN can solve the worlds problems.It has a very poor track record especially after the genocide in Rawanda.

I didn’t mean you in particular, but there are plenty of people here with an axe to grind with the Pope.

 

[dolphinlove]

A ‘friend’ of mine on facebook posted this rubbish on my timeline:

youtube.com/watch?v=dcpVrtv2t-M&sns=fb

 

[dolphinlove]

And this:

cogwriter.com/news/doctrine/pope-prohibits-yahweh/

 

[QNDNNDQDCE]

Some things are not worth responding to.

 

[horselvr]

I too have seen that video and someone had posted it on fb and unfortunately quite a few believe that garbage. Even the conservative I generally speak with have gotten very anti-Catholic here lately—is it because of Fox?

Anyway, I am more a traditional Catholic and will defend the faith at any turn in the road and will also defend the Pope.

 

[Eric_Hilbert]

Let’s stick with the topic.
Either the editorial in the Daily Kos or Napalitano"s article itself.

 

[Eric_Hilbert]

Moved to Michael’s forum for wider responses.
Play nice.

 

[lynnvinc]

Could anyone give some insight in how I can respond when someone indicates that they believe Pope Francis is a false prophet as they have done recently? This saddens me greatly, and I’d really like to be able to respond kindly but justly, and I don’t want to say the wrong thing. Thanks so much.

This is actually what many Protestants have thought all along for decades and centuries…

Some End-Timers refer to the pope (whoever he may be at the time) as the anti-Christ.

 

[Sarcelle]

Pope Francis lived and worked in the slums of Buenos Aries daily. He’s seen more poverty and despair than we can imagine, and knows full well how bad the world is and corrupt some economic systems are. He has seen it personally. He speaks from both the heart and with knowledge of man’s injustice and inhumanity to man.

What we read about and can only imagine, he has worked among and fully understands.

 

[JustaServant]

By Andrew P. Napolitano - - Wednesday, September 23, 2015
Okay, so if this guy is so “traditional” why is he so tight with a “heretic” Methodist?

I’m just wondering how he figures Pope Francis hasn’t done that.:ehh: That;s just crazy since it has by no means happened.
Complete and specious bunkum.
Oh…you mean Bishop Lefebre and his SSPX schismatics? To my knowledge we traditional Catholics were always big on obedience to the church and respect and charity towards the clergy…especially the Pope. So what’s his excuse for this kind of polemics.I don’t think this guy would know relativism if it barked in his face.

If he was a judge, no wonder our country is so screwed up.

Hmm…these words of Our Blessed Lord Jesus Christ comes to mind…Matthew 9:[11] And the Pharisees seeing it, said to his disciples: Why doth your master eat with publicans and sinners? [12] But Jesus hearing it, said: They that are in health need not a physician, but they that are ill. [13] Go then and learn what this meaneth, I will have mercy and not sacrifice. For I am not come to call the just, but sinners."
(Cont’d)

Sounds like Napolitano is playing to his base supporters: right-wing, anti-Catholic evangelicals. Real shame, he was the only one left on Fox I felt had any credibility left. Did you happen to catch what another Fox contributor, Ann Coulter, had to say this week?
And here I thought the biggest jabs this week would be from the left-wing.

 

[pnewton]

I do not know what Napolitano believes, but what he said was problematic. He accuses the Holy Father of using moral relativism, which is not substantiated. It can’t be substantiated because the Holy Father is not a moral relativist. His reference to the Pope being a false prophet is just wrong on many levels. I do not even know what to think about someone who evokes his moral superiority as a traditionalist Catholic as some authority to judge whether the Holy Father is more concerned for the secular than the sacred (and absurd claim) or if he has failed in his duties as the Pope (as defined by him).

My only question is whether this brashness is from him being overly identified as traditionalist or being a judge. I would hope that both judges and traditional Catholics would want to distance themselves from this sort of stereotype of arrogance.

By the way, Fox News lost me with this. I do not accept attacks on my family.

 

[cjforJesus]

Francis is a Jesuit. He has taken a vow of poverty, so yes, he knows what it means to be poor.

Read a biography on him.

I have only read “On Heaven and Earth”,
I do not believe vows of poverty are the same as actually being poor or born into those circumstances. Pope Francis is highly educated ,very intelligent,and compassionate yet he has never suffered from lack of food or shelter. He can sympathize but has never experienced it.

 

[Michael_Mayo]

I have only read “On Heaven and Earth”,
I do not believe vows of poverty are the same as actually being poor or born into those circumstances. Pope Francis is highly educated ,very intelligent,and compassionate yet he has never suffered from lack of food or shelter. He can sympathize but has never experienced it.

I don’t know if this is true about Pope Francis but yes, the vow of religious poverty is very different than actual poverty unless the individual takes some radical initiatives.

 

[SuperLuigi]

Could anyone give some insight in how I can respond when someone indicates that they believe Pope Francis is a false prophet as they have done recently? This saddens me greatly, and I’d really like to be able to respond kindly but justly, and I don’t want to say the wrong thing. Thanks so much.

So do you have link or a legitimate video?