Fox News' Highly Reluctant Jesus Follower

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I’m going to do something outside of my comfort zone and visit this evangelical Tim Keller Church service, which apparently is held only a few blocks away from where I live.

LOL 😃
Why would you think that is funny?
 
Sure, and we can determine the best way to put out a fire; with a fire extinguisher, a handful of dried twigs, a cupful of gasoline or whatever. The Church, as you know, does not endorse political parties, but it does expect us to oppose evil with effective means in a rational and serious way.
And of course the republican party’s opposition to abortion is nothing like a fire extinguisher. So you are right, we are required to oppose evil in a rational and serious way, and one is not required to vote republican to do that. There is nothing in Catholic teaching that even hints at that.
Abdicating political power to the party of abortion through equating it to the opposition which does not favor abortion, is not a moral choice. It might satisfy one’s vanity in seeing oneself as “above the fray and superior to both parties”. It might do that.
Who said anything about abdicating? Also, what gives you special insight that tells you that when someone criticizes republicans that they are satisfying their vanity? A bit of mind reading isn’t it?
 
From the article:
I wasn’t at all.** I derided Christians as anti-intellectual bigots** who were too weak to face the reality that there is no rhyme or reason to the world.
 
I had the same thought. I think there is a bigotry by self apppointed intellectuals against Christians in general, especially fundamentalists.
I find it ironic that you are accusing me of bigotry when conservative Christians are some of the most intolerant people around. Also, I wasn’t laughing at them. I was laughing at the thought of me attending an evangelical church service mentioned in this article. Which, I’m serious about.

I like doing things that push outside the boundaries. Also, I want to see people speak in tongue. 😃
 
I find it ironic that you are accusing me of bigotry when conservative Christians are some of the most intolerant people around. Also, I wasn’t laughing at them. I was laughing at the thought of me attending an evangelical church service mentioned in this article. Which, I’m serious about.

I like doing things that push outside the boundaries. Also, I want to see people speak in tongue. 😃
I don’t think they speak in tongues at evangelical Presbyterian churches. In fact, most evangelicals don’t speak in tongues. You are thinking of Pentecostals.
 
From the article:
I wasn’t at all. **I derided Christians as anti-intellectual bigots **who were too weak to face the reality that there is no rhyme or reason to the world.
I find it ironic that you are accusing me of bigotry when conservative Christians are some of the most intolerant people around. Also, I wasn’t laughing at them. I was laughing at the thought of me attending an evangelical church service mentioned in this article. Which, I’m serious about.

I like doing things that push outside the boundaries. Also, I want to see people speak in tongue. 😃
Irony within irony, apparently. You pretty much reiterated the convert’s statement about her own pre-conversion bigotry from the article. 😃
 
I find it ironic that you are accusing me of bigotry when conservative Christians are some of the most intolerant people around. Also, I wasn’t laughing at them. I was laughing at the thought of me attending an evangelical church service mentioned in this article. Which, I’m serious about.

I like doing things that push outside the boundaries. Also, I want to see people speak in tongue. 😃
Yes, because attending someone’s religious service because you want to “push outside the boundaries” and get some entertainment out of making fun of their beliefs (speaking in tongues) isn’t a sign of self-appointed superiority or bigotry. :rolleyes:
 
I just downloaded a Kindle version of Tim Keller’s book The Reason for God: Belief in an Age of Skepticism, and the quote at the Introduction is “I find your lack of faith - disturbing” - Darth Vader.

I already like the guy… 🙂
 
Doen’t matter, I’ll stand with the Penetecostals on this one.
Okay. But, they don’t always just stand. Sometimes they run around the periphery of the church. (Not mocking them…just stating a fact from my personal experiences in Pentecostal churches and having fun with the language). 🙂
 
I find it ironic that you are accusing me of bigotry when conservative Christians are some of the most intolerant people around. Also, I wasn’t laughing at them. I was laughing at the thought of me attending an evangelical church service mentioned in this article. Which, I’m serious about.

I like doing things that push outside the boundaries. Also, I want to see people speak in tongue. 😃
From your original post:
She’s an evangelical Christian? Would not have expected that. Also, there are evangelical churches in Manhattan???
Can you answer why you would be shocked to find an Evangelical church in NYC in your neighborhood. Are you implying educated intellectuals don’t speak in tongues?

There was no laughing at yourself in that post. Jjust :eek::eek::eek: at the thought of an Evangelical church in your neck of Manhattan.:rolleyes:
 
And of course the republican party’s opposition to abortion is nothing like a fire extinguisher. So you are right, we are required to oppose evil in a rational and serious way, and one is not required to vote republican to do that. There is nothing in Catholic teaching that even hints at that.

Who said anything about abdicating? Also, what gives you special insight that tells you that when someone criticizes republicans that they are satisfying their vanity? A bit of mind reading isn’t it?
If one fails to oppose evil by the method of supporting its opposition because the opposition “isn’t good enough” in other ways that are not, in themselves evil, it’s difficult not to call it vanity. But you’re right. It could simply be poor judgment.
 
Can you answer why you would be shocked to find an Evangelical church in NYC in your neighborhood.
Actually, in reading the Introduction to the pastor’s book (that’s as far as I’ve gotten), he was laughed at and dismissed as crazy, when he started his church (now with 5,000 people) because of the lack of believers in Manhattan. I’m not surprised that LiberalPrincess shares the same attitude towards religious believers that many secularists have.

As I mentioned, she is ironically voicing the same attitude the now converted Atheist had before encountering this church.
 
Actually, in reading the Introduction to the pastor’s book (that’s as far as I’ve gotten), he was laughed at and dismissed as crazy, when he started his church (now with 5,000 people) because of the lack of believers in Manhattan. I’m not surprised that LiberalPrincess shares the same attitude towards religious believers that many secularists have.

As I mentioned, she is ironically voicing the same attitude the now converted Atheist had before encountering this church.
Agreed, LP is now back-peddling to say she was laughing at herself. There were no smilies in her original post, just :eek::eek: at the idea of an Evangelical church in her neck of Manhattan.

Liberals can be so intolerant and bigoted. 😊
 
Agreed, LP is now back-peddling to say she was laughing at herself. There were no smilies in her original post, just :eek::eek: at the idea of an Evangelical church in her neck of Manhattan.

Liberals can be so intolerant and bigoted. 😊
And as a Manhattanite, I can tell you that some of them are the most intolerant and bigoted around. They’re not a very introspective bunch. :D:cool:🙂
 
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