Fr. Corapi Responds to Some of His Order's Charges

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The poor man… if any one of us are going to Communion/Mass later this Sunday, please offer it for him, his soul, and final penitence. Do this for everyone you meet in life :), but especially Fr. Corapi. He needs as many prayers as the rest of we sinners, though I’m concerned about the description of the video he has placed. The video “…indicates the direction he plans on going in”, as if he is a personality or celebrity unto himself. Our attitude toward these actions and this video may be related to upon those terms. 😦
 
jwinch2 said:
One thing which crossed my mind a while ago is the following and please understand that I am not attempting to judge here, I am simply concerned for Father C’s soul as well as those of his supporters.

My understanding of his orders of obedience to his superior upon his professor to SOLT as well as during his ordination are such that if he is guilty of disobedience, he is under pain of mortal sin. Is that accurate?

If so, it would imply that all of the people encouraging him to continue his disobedience are in in fact encouraging someone to commit mortal sin providing the know what it is that they are doing.

Am I wrong on that?
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I don’t know if you are right or wrong, but, oh my, if you are right.

Im guessing (just a guess mind you) most people may not know that? I know it had never occurred to me.
 
jwinch2 said:
if one must be critical, please do so in as charitable a manner as is possible
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I did! Sorry if I seem direct, but really this man was deceptive to say the least. And, now he is trying to keep it all going with the “blacksheepdog” thing.

Fool me once…
 
Teelynn said:
Sorry, I don’t see anything unusual about his “eye movement” nor his speech.🤷 I don’t know how or why he has changed his persona and frankly neither do you.:rolleyes:
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You don’t see how he doesn’t look directly at Fr. Pacwa, who is sitting to his left, not right? (I agree I don’t know why, but there is definitely a change in the persona from prior presentations.)
 
JRRTFAN said:
(I agree I don’t know why, but there is definitely a change in the persona from prior presentations.)
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I also noticed over the course of the past couple of years that something about Fr. Corapi had changed, outwardly too, but I mean his demeanor and delivery. It was as if something was troubling him. I wrote it off as it probably being just me thinking this, but I guess that wasn’t the case. Will we ever know for sure? No, probably not. Maybe when his autobiography is released he will share more of his struggles with his readers, but I don’t plan to be purchasing his book.
 
GloriousOrder said:
The poor man… if any one of us are going to Communion/Mass later this Sunday, please offer it for him, his soul, and final penitence. Do this for everyone you meet in life :), but especially Fr. Corapi. He needs as many prayers as the rest of we sinners, though I’m concerned about the description of the video he has placed. The video “…indicates the direction he plans on going in”, as if he is a personality or celebrity unto himself. Our attitude toward these actions and this video may be related to upon those terms. 😦
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I just returned from Mass…offered my Mass for Fr. C and ALL PRIESTS especially priests that are going through similar nightmares.

Why is it though, that I do not see what others are seeing…a lack of humility? I see a hurting man.
 
Teelynn said:
Why is it though, that I do not see what others are seeing…a lack of humility? I see a hurting man.
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I think the lack of humility that people are seeing is related to that fact that he continues to refuse to obey his SOLT superiors in regards to these matters. His defiance is what comes across as a lack of humility. And he has stated this defiance over and over again: “I will not be extinguished”, etc. A hurting man, yes definitely, but perhaps one who is being blinded by pride as well.
 
Marie5890 said:
I got that as the bottom line too. He didn’t/doesn’t want to be a priest or live as a priest anymore.

He wanted back into secular life.

I wish he would just say so in a very clear manner. 🤷
It would bother and upset many, but it would at least be refreshingly honest.

I caught his admission that the last 10 years for him have been a struggle and very difficult.
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I think that’s why he told us not to appeal on his path to the Bishop.

I am really sad to say it but I am scared to think about how long he has been giving us the ruse on the matter… I saw him when he came to San Antonio, I was wondering then why he had only six visits - and how come it cost so much to attend.

I also remember meeting him once in Corpus six years ago - he seemed lonely and distant even then.

There are a lot of aspects of this story that trouble me. I think he felt trapped as if he could speak to no one about his struggles. Maybe that required honesty - and if, God forbid, his special forces claim was a lie and there were other stretches of the truth - honesty may have never been a large part of his persona.

I also wonder if he might be a paranoid schizophrenic - in fact, if he is a paranoid schizophrenic - that would explain the wild and hard-to-believe stories he tells - to him, they are very real although they never happened. It would also explain his remarkable intelligence - his doctorates - and also his cognitive dissonance. Frequently, schizophrenics abuse drugs to self-medicate. He was in a VA mental hospital - I wonder what his diagnosis was. Sometimes schizophrenia can eb and flow - and I think that possibly he went into a period of remission, but since, he has become a full-blown schizophrenic.

If that was indeed his diagnosis, he should never have been ordained because grace builds upon nature - and this is the inevitable result of the damage a paranoid schizophrenic can do if he is ordained.

If he’s not seriously mentally ill, then I fear he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

God bless,
Peter
 
lightoftheworld said:
He was in a VA mental hospital - I wonder what his diagnosis was.
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Really? I was not aware of that. My Dad was a psychiatrist, and had a great deal of compassion for those suffering from schizophrenia in particular, because it is such a difficult cross to bear. No idea if that is what he had/has, I just think what is going on for him is so very tragic. If someone had told me 6 months ago that all of this would have blown up with Fr. Corapi, I would have thought they were out of their right minds.
 
mgannome said:
This is a disturbing scandal and seems to be dividing the faithful. There are a couple good articles by Deacon Dan Gannon on catholicurrent.com/#/, which take a pastoral approach and give hope that a greater good may come from all this.
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You know, as we were hearing the Gospel last night, I thought immediately of the man formerly known as Father Corapi. I put him in the “seed sown on hard ground” category as well.

Thank you for that article.
 
JRRTFAN said:
You don’t see how he doesn’t look directly at Fr. Pacwa, who is sitting to his left, not right? (I agree I don’t know why, but there is definitely a change in the persona from prior presentations.)
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I watched the same segment when it originally aired on EWTN. I didn’t notice anything unusual then…I don’t notice anything unusual now…I just am not seeing what the rest of you are. The only difference of course which is the obvious difference now, is the dyed beard and eyebrows, and a thinner more tired appearance. And a very sad, broken man. Other than that…🤷
 
mom4mary said:
Really? I was not aware of that. My Dad was a psychiatrist, and had a great deal of compassion for those suffering from schizophrenia in particular, because it is such a difficult cross to bear. No idea if that is what he had/has, I just think what is going on for him is so very tragic. If someone had told me 6 months ago that all of this would have blown up with Fr. Corapi, I would have thought they were out of their right minds.
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Yes, I remember Fr. C saying that on several ocassions in his preaching. Only the Lord knows what if any serious condition is wrong with him.
 
Teelynn said:
I just am not seeing what the rest of you are. The only difference of course which is the obvious difference now, is the dyed beard and eyebrows, and a thinner more tired appearance. And a very sad, broken man. Other than that…🤷
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I am also seeing a man who used to view his priesthood as an amazing gift, who now chooses not to be called “Father” but rather just John Corapi or “The Black SheepDog”. I see a man who used to wear his Roman collar with honor now donning a leather motorcycle jacket and jeans. I see a man who told us that obedience is the path to Heaven now telling us that disobedience in his case is justifiable. I see a man who tells us “You follow the Church” while it is unclear to me who he is now following, but clearly it is not his religious superiors at SOLT.

Yes, he is a very sad and pathetic looking figure. But perhaps, just perhaps, he is choosing by his own actions to make his sadness even deeper than it would otherwise be. I truly believe that if her returned to SOLT house today, they would welcome him home and do everything possible to help him. Sadly, he is choosing not to do that. And that, perhaps, is the saddest thing of all.
 
Teelynn said:
Yes, I remember Fr. C saying that on several ocassions in his preaching. Only the Lord knows what if any serious condition is wrong with him.
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The Lord and whoever treated him at the time. Presumably the doctors who treated him for his recent illness may possibly be aware of any previous diognosis.

One thing that has struck me throughout these relevlations is how alone he has been. HIs only associations seem to be with the people of Santa Cruz Media. The bishop of Helena has said that Fr Corapi never applied for facilities in his diocese. So did he spend any time with his fellow priests in Montana? Did he visit the SOLT in Tx regularly? Did he even have a housekeeper?

I understand that at one point he wanted to be a hermit, but for someone who is NOT a hermit that kind of closed society is unusal and so sad.

I will pray for him at Mass tonight.
 
Mrs_Sally said:
The Lord and whoever treated him at the time. Presumably the doctors who treated him for his recent illness may possibly be aware of any previous diognosis.

One thing that has struck me throughout these relevlations is how alone he has been. HIs only associations seem to be with the people of Santa Cruz Media. The bishop of Helena has said that Fr Corapi never applied for facilities in his diocese. So did he spend any time with his fellow priests in Montana? Did he visit the SOLT in Tx regularly? Did he even have a housekeeper?

I understand that at one point he wanted to be a hermit, but for someone who is NOT a hermit that kind of closed society is unusal and so sad.

I will pray for him at Mass tonight.
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I think that Montana may be home to quite a large community of “survivalists,” people who are loaded with weapons and ready for the end of the world as we know it. Perhaps Corapi has been spending too much time in that sort of atmosphere…the paranoia in that group is rampant. Very very unhealthy for most rational and spiritual people.
 
mom4mary said:
Really? I was not aware of that. My Dad was a psychiatrist, and had a great deal of compassion for those suffering from schizophrenia in particular, because it is such a difficult cross to bear. No idea if that is what he had/has, I just think what is going on for him is so very tragic. If someone had told me 6 months ago that all of this would have blown up with Fr. Corapi, I would have thought they were out of their right minds.
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I have a sister who suffers from paranoid schizophrenia. She must take medication even if she feels well and thinks she is A-okay. Otherwise . . . not a good thing.

It is a heavy cross and compassion is necessary.
 
lightoftheworld said:
I also wonder if he might be a paranoid schizophrenic - in fact, if he is a paranoid schizophrenic - that would explain the wild and hard-to-believe stories he tells - to him, they are very real although they never happened. It would also explain his remarkable intelligence - his doctorates - and also his cognitive dissonance. Frequently, schizophrenics abuse drugs to self-medicate. He was in a VA mental hospital - I wonder what his diagnosis was. Sometimes schizophrenia can eb and flow - and I think that possibly he went into a period of remission, but since, he has become a full-blown schizophrenic.

If that was indeed his diagnosis, he should never have been ordained because grace builds upon nature - and this is the inevitable result of the damage a paranoid schizophrenic can do if he is ordained.

If he’s not seriously mentally ill, then I fear he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

God bless,
Peter
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Please, let’s not speculate on any medical conditions that Father Corapi might have. Also, discussions of whether or not he should have ever been ordained are probably out of bounds for the forum as well. He was ordained and by someone who is going to be a saint in a few years.

I’m not trying to be a pain in the rear here, its just that comments like these have caused multiple threads to be shut down on this topic. I really do not wish to see that happen here.

Pax Christi
 
TheRealJuliane said:
I think that Montana may be home to quite a large community of “survivalists,” people who are loaded with weapons and ready for the end of the world as we know it. Perhaps Corapi has been spending too much time in that sort of atmosphere…the paranoia in that group is rampant. Very very unhealthy for most rational and spiritual people.
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While texas probably has a larger share of “survivalists”😃 There is somethign rotten in the state of the Big Sky. In 1998 they elected antipope Pius XIII. Perhaps the same demon is roaming around…
 
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