Fr. Corapi Responds to Some of His Order's Charges

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My understanding was that he did celebrate the sacraments for the people involved in his media ministries. In addition, even if he did not do so, his media company is rightly viewed as a ministry and thus, would certainly fall under some sort of guidance from the local bishop.
If Santa Cruz was basically an order fulfillment operation, I don’t see the need for the ordinary’s approval. If they were producing things (I don’t know, I’m not a fan) then that might be a different thing.

Overall, though, the picture that is emerging is of a man who answered to no one, and hired people with secrecy agreements. Not exactly living in the light, you kjnow.
 
If Santa Cruz was basically an order fulfillment operation, I don’t see the need for the ordinary’s approval. If they were producing things (I don’t know, I’m not a fan) then that might be a different thing.
My understanding, (and I could easily be wrong here), is that if a priest is sent to another diocese to perform ministry of any kind, he needs permission of the local bishop to operate. I know religious orders are required to get the permission of the local bishop to set up within his diocese, though they are pretty much immune to any other requirements along those lines once initial permission had been granted.

Obviously, there is no way to know what arrangements might have been made between SOLT and the previous bishop of Montana but common courtesy would suggest some sort of desire to be obedient and at least respectful of the wishes of the direct successor to one of the Apostles. Frankly, even if he were not required to operate under the guidance of that particular bishop, it is not even remotely humble to completely ignore what, from my perspective, seems to be a perfectly reasonable request.
 
My understanding, (and I could easily be wrong here), is that if a priest is sent to another diocese to perform ministry of any kind, he needs permission of the local bishop to operate. I know religious orders are required to get the permission of the local bishop to set up within his diocese, though they are pretty much immune to any other requirements along those lines once initial permission had been granted.
I’m not sure he was actually using Montana as a ministry center. Didn’t he travel the country and give talks (for which people paid a lot)? I’m not sure that he actually did anything in Montana except rest and ship CDs. Well, and plan the trips. Okay, maybe there was “ministry” there.
Obviously, there is no way to know what arrangements might have been made between SOLT and the previous bishop of Montana but common courtesy would suggest some sort of desire to be obedient and at least respectful of the wishes of the direct successor to one of the Apostles. Frankly, even if he were not required to operate under the guidance of that particular bishop, it is not even remotely humble to completely ignore what, from my perspective, seems to be a perfectly reasonable request.
Well, I think it is becoming evident that he purposely was keeping himself away from scrutiny by any Bishop or superior. If not, why the heck be in Montana when your order is in Texas?
 
I’m not sure he was actually using Montana as a ministry center. Didn’t he travel the country and give talks…
I’m not sure what or what does not qualify as “ministry” in that type of situation to be honest.
If not, why the heck be in Montana when your order is in Texas?
Great question. No idea…
 
Commenting on his video -

I REALLY liked at the end when he said that we follow Jesus and the Church, not him. That seems to give a somewhat even keel to the insanity of the situation.
 
Commenting on his video -

I REALLY liked at the end when he said that we follow Jesus and the Church, not him. That seems to give a somewhat even keel to the insanity of the situation.
So I wonder where he is going that he does not want anyone to follow?
 
So I wonder where he is going that he does not want anyone to follow?
Good point. The main reason why anyone ever “followed him” was because he preached Jesus and the Catholic Church in the first place. It will be interesting to see what he preaches going forward. If I had to guess considering his past talks it will be about controversial issues both inside and outside the Catholic Church. He say’s he doesn’t want to make a career on controversy, but that’s exactly what he’s doing by promoting his black sheep dog persona. He will never be able to dance completely around the fact that it’s ok for a priest simply walk away from an order. People who aren’t Catholic or believe in the hierarchy will say it’s ok for him to do, but as a Catholic should know it’s not a good thing at all.
 
Someone ask Corapi yesterday on his blog yesterday…

“You should close the comments so the idiot haters can’t hijack your blog”

Corapi said…

“I am inclined to…but, I do respect the opinion and thoughts of everyone involved. I recognize this is not an easy thing to accept. Additionally, I recognize that many will become upset (to say the least). All I can ask is that you pray for those who have yet to hear. Those who so desperately need words of hope and truth. Patience when it’s least expected. Support and love when they’ve been left dry and hungry for so long. These are very dark times. Pray.
Onward!”

I find it ironic that he says “Support and love when they’ve been left dry and hungry for so long. These are very dark times. Pray. Onward!”…Hasn’t he been preaching the Eucharist all this time and now he’s saying because he feels upset by the Church that people have been left dry and hungry for so long and he’s going to fix it himself?

These are dark times indeed, but they don’t have to be to the person who trusts in Jesus.
 
Commenting on his video -
I REALLY liked at the end when he said that we follow Jesus and the Church, not him. That seems to give a somewhat even keel to the insanity of the situation.
I really have to ask, though - if my goal is (and rightly should be) to follow Jesus Christ and His Church, then why on earth would I want to follow a disobedient priest into his “new” venture? The two directions just seem diametrically opposed to one another.
 
Someone ask Corapi yesterday on his blog yesterday…

“You should close the comments so the idiot haters can’t hijack your blog”

Corapi said…

“I am inclined to…but, I do respect the opinion and thoughts of everyone involved. I recognize this is not an easy thing to accept. Additionally, I recognize that many will become upset (to say the least). All I can ask is that you pray for those who have yet to hear. Those who so desperately need words of hope and truth. Patience when it’s least expected. Support and love when they’ve been left dry and hungry for so long. These are very dark times. Pray.
Onward!”

I find it ironic that he says “Support and love when they’ve been left dry and hungry for so long. These are very dark times. Pray. Onward!”…Hasn’t he been preaching the Eucharist all this time and now he’s saying because he feels upset by the Church that people have been left dry and hungry for so long and he’s going to fix it himself?

These are dark times indeed, but they don’t have to be to the person who trusts in Jesus.
I read this also and had a similar reaction. What is it that some “have yet to hear”? We all heard him speaking about God and the Church, what are the other topics that are so important? The catechism series and other early talks went over issues of faith and morals. If he is now going to focus on politics as many have suggested, those are prudential issues that we have room to disagree on/discuss.

And of course, as you said, “words of hope and truth” are the words of the Church, not the words of a private speaker.

Edited to add: This was also the only comment he responded to at the time I read the comments. And there were so many supporting comments of people praying for him and encouraging him to continue within the church.
 
When one says:
“follow Jesus, follow the Church;
but do NOT follow me,” hasn’t one made a
very clear distincition between Jesus and His
Church on the one hand and ‘the self’ on the other hand?

That speaks volumes to me.
 
Same thought here. Thanks anyway John Corapi but the Church has not left me *dry and hungry for so long. * Quite the contrary. I’m very much fed by the Holy Catholic Church, and its many, many bishops, priests, religious and lay ministers and apologists. I have my shepherd in heaven, and His appointed shepherd on earth (our beloved German Sheep Dog), and Papa Benny’s delegates in the Bishops and so forth. Don’t need no dang scary black sheep dog that apparently doesn’t belong to any shepherd at all.
 
I read this also and had a similar reaction. What is it that some “have yet to hear”? We all heard him speaking about God and the Church, what are the other topics that are so important? The catechism series and other early talks went over issues of faith and morals. If he is now going to focus on politics as many have suggested, those are prudential issues that we have room to disagree on/discuss.

And of course, as you said, “words of hope and truth” are the words of the Church, not the words of a private speaker.

Edited to add: This was also the only comment he responded to at the time I read the comments. And there were so many supporting comments of people praying for him and encouraging him to continue within the church.
I remember in one of his videos of him saying… “I haven’t sent myself, I’ve been sent… by the Catholic Church, I teach from a position of authority” Sadly this isn’t the case any longer. He won’t be able to dance around it. I’m sure people will still follow him. It’s kinda ironic that he is getting rid of all his media for the last 20 years and closing down shop. It’s as if he’s throwing it all away. I wonder, why would an innocent person who was so into teaching and preaching shut it all down while at the same time continue the battle cry to people saying “ONWARD!” What people need to understand is that Corapi isn’t saying or telling people anything new. The only thing he got going for him now is controversy and conspiracy theories. Which will probably allow his autobiography to get good sells. He begins with Jesus in the “era” of priesthood and ends with himself and his own autobiography. Go figure.
 
When one says:
“follow Jesus, follow the Church;
but do NOT follow me,” hasn’t one made a
very clear distincition between Jesus and His
Church on the one hand and ‘the self’ on the other hand?

That speaks volumes to me.
It may speak volumes, but what is it saying?
To date, I have only heard that particular message given out by people that are on the wrong path and know it.
I have never heard that particular message given by someone truly with God.
 
It may speak volumes, but what is it saying?
To date, I have only heard that particular message given out by people that are on the wrong path and know it.
I have never heard that particular message given by someone truly with God.
You’ve made my point.
 
You know, I’ve been thinking about how Fr. Corapi never had an interest in being incardinated into the St. Helena diocese to help out with the occasional need for a fill-in priest for those odd or rare times he was home.

It brings to mind many Masses we attended where some very elderly priest or monsignor was pulled in to sub. on some emergency, as when the priest’s Mom died, or he had a medical emergency of his own. The parish did everything it could to find any other priest, but this poor old guy was the only one available, and he was willing.

We suffered through portions of the Mass missing, or even repeated, or out of order, or read off a different day if the pages stuck, and the extraordinary ministers doing the bulk of the distribution of host. Sometimes they had to sit when standing would have been the norm. But my husband and I were always touched by the commitment and determination to serve the people that these elderly and often ailing men made to be shlepped out to the Church, and give their best. It really struck home the message that confecting the Eucharist for us was THAT IMPORTANT.

They were perfectly aware that a communion service was still OK, and they could have confected a bunch of hosts at home if necessary if the parish didn’t have enough on hand, no? But at great effort, and pain, and discomfort, and even embarrassment over their condition, these men came and turned bread and wine into the body and blood. Usually for a parish full of strangers, some of whom would no doubt complain about the doddering “old fool” sent to celebrate Mass. I always gave them a warm handshake or hug as we exited the Church, but now I wish I had kissed their hands as some other cultures do.

What a glorious miracle are our clergy who work day in and day out in the trenches, and many never, ever stop giving, serving and praying.
 
What a powerful testimony… definitely God-inspired. Thank you!
 
I remember in one of his videos of him saying… “I haven’t sent myself, I’ve been sent… by the Catholic Church, I teach from a position of authority” Sadly this isn’t the case any longer. He won’t be able to dance around it. I’m sure people will still follow him. It’s kinda ironic that he is getting rid of all his media for the last 20 years and closing down shop. It’s as if he’s throwing it all away. I wonder, why would an innocent person who was so into teaching and preaching shut it all down while at the same time continue the battle cry to people saying “ONWARD!” What people need to understand is that Corapi isn’t saying or telling people anything new. The only thing he got going for him now is controversy and conspiracy theories. Which will probably allow his autobiography to get good sells. He begins with Jesus in the “era” of priesthood and ends with himself and his own autobiography. Go figure.
Somehow, in my head, I am hearing,

“ONWARD!” Corapi’s Soldiers…
Marching off the cliff…

😦
 
You know, I’ve been thinking about how Fr. Corapi never had an interest in being incardinated into the St. Helena diocese to help out with the occasional need for a fill-in priest for those odd or rare times he was home.

It brings to mind many Masses we attended where some very elderly priest or monsignor was pulled in to sub. on some emergency, as when the priest’s Mom died, or he had a medical emergency of his own. The parish did everything it could to find any other priest, but this poor old guy was the only one available, and he was willing.

We suffered through portions of the Mass missing, or even repeated, or out of order, or read off a different day if the pages stuck, and the extraordinary ministers doing the bulk of the distribution of host. Sometimes they had to sit when standing would have been the norm. But my husband and I were always touched by the commitment and determination to serve the people that these elderly and often ailing men made to be shlepped out to the Church, and give their best. It really struck home the message that confecting the Eucharist for us was THAT IMPORTANT.

They were perfectly aware that a communion service was still OK, and they could have confected a bunch of hosts at home if necessary if the parish didn’t have enough on hand, no? But at great effort, and pain, and discomfort, and even embarrassment over their condition, these men came and turned bread and wine into the body and blood. Usually for a parish full of strangers, some of whom would no doubt complain about the doddering “old fool” sent to celebrate Mass. I always gave them a warm handshake or hug as we exited the Church, but now I wish I had kissed their hands as some other cultures do.

What a glorious miracle are our clergy who work day in and day out in the trenches, and many never, ever stop giving, serving and praying.
So beautiful! Thank you!!
 
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