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David_Carlon
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Thank you… thank God for holy priests who persevere.
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debraran
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He was always honest, give him that, that being the type of priest like your parish priest, Fr. Pacwa, Fr. Groechel, wasn’t for him, he wanted to just preach and to be alone.
I wonder though, knowing how much in need church’s are for good priests, good homilies, the eucharist, he couldn’t help out near his home or with permission elsewhere once in a while.
Did he ever go to an EWTN celebration or say mass there…I never caught it but didn’t watch daily.
I guess my fear, because we all have doubts at times, was that he didn’t believe it, really believe it, so the desire to do it, wasn’t there.
I heard Fr. Mitch Pacwa say how his father disapproved of his vocation, wanted him to be a doctor if he wanted to help people…even said at his first mass, he’d disown him, he said, "It doesn’t matter Dad, I’m a Jesuit, I would have to share it, not own it, this is the right thing for me. I could help people as a doctor but they’d die, here I can help people and they can live forever.
I liked that…
I wonder though, knowing how much in need church’s are for good priests, good homilies, the eucharist, he couldn’t help out near his home or with permission elsewhere once in a while.
Did he ever go to an EWTN celebration or say mass there…I never caught it but didn’t watch daily.
I guess my fear, because we all have doubts at times, was that he didn’t believe it, really believe it, so the desire to do it, wasn’t there.
I heard Fr. Mitch Pacwa say how his father disapproved of his vocation, wanted him to be a doctor if he wanted to help people…even said at his first mass, he’d disown him, he said, "It doesn’t matter Dad, I’m a Jesuit, I would have to share it, not own it, this is the right thing for me. I could help people as a doctor but they’d die, here I can help people and they can live forever.
I liked that…
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jwinch2
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AMEN!
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treadhead
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I care a great deal about Fr. Corapi. As I’ve said before, his sermons had a great impact on me, and I know they had the same impact on many others.
This is why I am so disturbed by this whole episode.
What I find most disturbing is that there’s a big disparity amongst what’s being said by SOLT and Fr. Corapi relative to what was said by his order. Both parties cannot be right. This means that one or the other is not being truthful.
It is no longer Father Corapi’s word against his accuser. It’s now his word against that of his order. What’s happening here?
SOLT said they had investigated the matter and deemed Corapi to be “unsuitable for public ministry” – which is a pretty big deal. Father Corapi, on the other hand, denies all charges.
Why would SOLT come up with findings that were baseless? Why would, as Father claims, his order wish to “be rid of him”? Although it is possible that the order is being less than truthful in its findings, I have to say in all honesty that this is unlikely.
If SOLT was being truthful, then where does that leave Father Corapi? I hate to come to these conclusions, but logically it is difficult not to. If he’s done wrong, well, who hasn’t? This is why we have the sacrament of reconciliation.
I’m just confused about the whole thing, and quite troubled. It has taken on nightmarish proportions for me as a Catholic. I love the Church, and I love Father Corapi. Both have enriched my life. I cannot reconcile this.
This is why I am so disturbed by this whole episode.
What I find most disturbing is that there’s a big disparity amongst what’s being said by SOLT and Fr. Corapi relative to what was said by his order. Both parties cannot be right. This means that one or the other is not being truthful.
It is no longer Father Corapi’s word against his accuser. It’s now his word against that of his order. What’s happening here?
SOLT said they had investigated the matter and deemed Corapi to be “unsuitable for public ministry” – which is a pretty big deal. Father Corapi, on the other hand, denies all charges.
Why would SOLT come up with findings that were baseless? Why would, as Father claims, his order wish to “be rid of him”? Although it is possible that the order is being less than truthful in its findings, I have to say in all honesty that this is unlikely.
If SOLT was being truthful, then where does that leave Father Corapi? I hate to come to these conclusions, but logically it is difficult not to. If he’s done wrong, well, who hasn’t? This is why we have the sacrament of reconciliation.
I’m just confused about the whole thing, and quite troubled. It has taken on nightmarish proportions for me as a Catholic. I love the Church, and I love Father Corapi. Both have enriched my life. I cannot reconcile this.
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FCEGM
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His continued use of “we” instead of “I” was bothering to me, as if he is trying to distance himself from his personal decisions and his responsibility for what put him in this position.
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treadhead
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^^
I don’t know how I managed to quote my own post – but there you have it. Please excuse my nimble fingeredness.
I don’t know how I managed to quote my own post – but there you have it. Please excuse my nimble fingeredness.
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mom4mary
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LOL!!! I’m surprised I haven’t done that same thing, could easily have been me!
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jwinch2
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Perhaps you thought you were so insightful that your comments just had to be repeated?
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Lucky_Scrunchy
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LOL!!!
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Mrs_Sally
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I’m glad you did. We need to be reminded about how this is affecting you (and us all) - a faithful Catholic trying to learn more about his faith, finding a good teacher, and now being faced with confusion of “nightmarish proportions”. It shouldn’t have to be this way, but has been made this way by his disobedience and insistence on his own way with the new website and confusion of “you don’t follow me” and yet “onward!”.
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debraran
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I found this on a blog, this priest had a busy,but beautiful brithday with all the sacraments.
blog.adw.org/2011/07/a-sacramental-six-pack-on-the-eve-of-my-50th-birthday-a-brief-snapshot-of-the-gift-of-the-priesthood/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=a-sacramental-six-pack-on-the-eve-of-my-50th-birthday-a-brief-snapshot-of-the-gift-of-the-priesthood
blog.adw.org/2011/07/a-sacramental-six-pack-on-the-eve-of-my-50th-birthday-a-brief-snapshot-of-the-gift-of-the-priesthood/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=a-sacramental-six-pack-on-the-eve-of-my-50th-birthday-a-brief-snapshot-of-the-gift-of-the-priesthood
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jmcrae
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That’s so beautiful!
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unafraid
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I offer my remarks in the form of an observation, certainly not as a judgement, but once again I am struck by the insidious way that pride so often seems to be the germ from which so much discord and chaos emerge.
However, I believe that when a thing collapses there is always a chance to gain in wisdom from studying the root cause of the calamity. Reflection rather than condemnation should be the methodology used when considering this unsettling situation.
Father Corapi is in dire need of our prayers…and God’s mercy.
However, I believe that when a thing collapses there is always a chance to gain in wisdom from studying the root cause of the calamity. Reflection rather than condemnation should be the methodology used when considering this unsettling situation.
Father Corapi is in dire need of our prayers…and God’s mercy.
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CatholicFireman
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Amen to that.
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franas
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Okay … they closed the “other” thread and redirected us here. So I repeat here …
Fr. Corapi’s accuser apparently just celebrated her 6th wedding anniversary. She is with her hubby and has five children, etc. I wonder how Fr. Corapi fit into her schedule like cohabiting and other outlandish sexting accusations (with her mother and sisters). I’m surprise that she did not mention her dog too …
I’m also not sure about SOLT’s salty press release too. The other day, a well known (?) SOLT priest in UK made the blank assertion that Fr. Corapi never gave any money to support SOLT. This is contrary to Fr. Corapi’s statement. If nothing else, I will put my bet on Fr. Corapi’s truthfulness on this matter. It really makes me wonder what this UK SOLT priest’s agenda is, and if this is a reflection of SOLT’s whole credibility.
Not much facts are known yet but this we know … that Fr. Corapi has a civil lawsuit which the accuser will have to respond to about allegations of defamation and libel. I think that we should not take Fr. Corapi’s current inability to talk openly due to the pending case in court as a sign of guilt. We have also been told that there’s a “tape” in Fr. Corapi’s possession which he had debated to release it publicly earlier. I think that SOLT is wrong to demand that Fr. Corapi drop his lawsuit and also his action to foreclose on a property (I speculate that it’s a house sold with a mortgage to the accuser who has stopped payments on it). And please, there’s some hypocrisy in thrashing someone’s reputation in public and then issuing an “invitation” to return (“crawl back”) to the Community House. I think there’s a better way of dealing with the situation (even if all the charges are true) and there’s been a serious lapse of Christian charity on the part of SOLT.
I’m not in Fr Corapi’s “fan club” by any measure but it disturbs me greatly how many people here will sanctimonize the ministerial priesthood but then just as quickly gave up on the priest, Fr. Corapi. I think that if Fr. Corapi resigns and then seeks laicization through channel, he’s no longer bound by any obedience to SOLT. Contrary to what’s believed by a lot of people, Fr. Corapi never stated that he would leave the church over this scandal. Am I the only one who has noted that Fr. Corapi is steadfast in his denial of the charges? Unless he is a chronic liar, I think that we should give our priest a chance to prove his innocence.
All this is to say that I’m not yet convince of Fr. Corapi’s culpability. On the latest video, I saw a man who’s obviously sad and who’s lost a lot of weight. I wonder if anyone from the church hierarchy visited him during these dark hours? I hope that he has friends in Montana who will continue to offer their Christian brotherly love and concern … Let’s pray for healing for all the parties involved.
Fr. Corapi’s accuser apparently just celebrated her 6th wedding anniversary. She is with her hubby and has five children, etc. I wonder how Fr. Corapi fit into her schedule like cohabiting and other outlandish sexting accusations (with her mother and sisters). I’m surprise that she did not mention her dog too …
I’m also not sure about SOLT’s salty press release too. The other day, a well known (?) SOLT priest in UK made the blank assertion that Fr. Corapi never gave any money to support SOLT. This is contrary to Fr. Corapi’s statement. If nothing else, I will put my bet on Fr. Corapi’s truthfulness on this matter. It really makes me wonder what this UK SOLT priest’s agenda is, and if this is a reflection of SOLT’s whole credibility.
Not much facts are known yet but this we know … that Fr. Corapi has a civil lawsuit which the accuser will have to respond to about allegations of defamation and libel. I think that we should not take Fr. Corapi’s current inability to talk openly due to the pending case in court as a sign of guilt. We have also been told that there’s a “tape” in Fr. Corapi’s possession which he had debated to release it publicly earlier. I think that SOLT is wrong to demand that Fr. Corapi drop his lawsuit and also his action to foreclose on a property (I speculate that it’s a house sold with a mortgage to the accuser who has stopped payments on it). And please, there’s some hypocrisy in thrashing someone’s reputation in public and then issuing an “invitation” to return (“crawl back”) to the Community House. I think there’s a better way of dealing with the situation (even if all the charges are true) and there’s been a serious lapse of Christian charity on the part of SOLT.
I’m not in Fr Corapi’s “fan club” by any measure but it disturbs me greatly how many people here will sanctimonize the ministerial priesthood but then just as quickly gave up on the priest, Fr. Corapi. I think that if Fr. Corapi resigns and then seeks laicization through channel, he’s no longer bound by any obedience to SOLT. Contrary to what’s believed by a lot of people, Fr. Corapi never stated that he would leave the church over this scandal. Am I the only one who has noted that Fr. Corapi is steadfast in his denial of the charges? Unless he is a chronic liar, I think that we should give our priest a chance to prove his innocence.
All this is to say that I’m not yet convince of Fr. Corapi’s culpability. On the latest video, I saw a man who’s obviously sad and who’s lost a lot of weight. I wonder if anyone from the church hierarchy visited him during these dark hours? I hope that he has friends in Montana who will continue to offer their Christian brotherly love and concern … Let’s pray for healing for all the parties involved.
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debraran
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Someone from SOLT offered to live with him, to have some community, he said No. He likes being alone.
I agree, there is a lot on both sides, but if you or I were innocent, if we knew the emails and texts, public records, etc that collaborated the evidence, didn’t exist, wouldn’t you say, “Show it to me?” Suddenly after that statement, (which I think was their “shaking him”) he said, he was moving on. No mention of the law suit which could take years if he pursues it. If he gave money to SOLT there is proof of that. He made millions, he doesn’t need monatary help from SOLT. He should have, being a good businesman planned for retirement. The toys I’m sure were extras. He will be fine that way. He needs spiritual help and emotional help.
He isn’t taking the accuser to court over what she said per se, it is just that she broke the contract. I wouldn’t think telling bishops was the same as the secular press. Does that mean anything can go on and you can’t tell? She knew his anger, she knew she might lose the house, in the end, I think it will just go away. If they have information on him, so do others.It was never just her. He will be very careful what he says, because it he does call someone a liar that can talk, they might throw mud back. The tape he threatened to put online, which was a sign on instability, was supposedly her drunk, but no one would know if it was tampered with, not in sequence and it was in very bad taste. He also, wouldn’t be able to use that in court, it was be in her favor that he was slandering her…that was the worst of it then.
No one needs more mud. After reading about this wondeful priest on Deacon’s blog, he celebrated his birthday with 6 sacraments (busy but fun)an other religous doing great things, the church has a good foundation, it will survive a small hit.
I agree, there is a lot on both sides, but if you or I were innocent, if we knew the emails and texts, public records, etc that collaborated the evidence, didn’t exist, wouldn’t you say, “Show it to me?” Suddenly after that statement, (which I think was their “shaking him”) he said, he was moving on. No mention of the law suit which could take years if he pursues it. If he gave money to SOLT there is proof of that. He made millions, he doesn’t need monatary help from SOLT. He should have, being a good businesman planned for retirement. The toys I’m sure were extras. He will be fine that way. He needs spiritual help and emotional help.
He isn’t taking the accuser to court over what she said per se, it is just that she broke the contract. I wouldn’t think telling bishops was the same as the secular press. Does that mean anything can go on and you can’t tell? She knew his anger, she knew she might lose the house, in the end, I think it will just go away. If they have information on him, so do others.It was never just her. He will be very careful what he says, because it he does call someone a liar that can talk, they might throw mud back. The tape he threatened to put online, which was a sign on instability, was supposedly her drunk, but no one would know if it was tampered with, not in sequence and it was in very bad taste. He also, wouldn’t be able to use that in court, it was be in her favor that he was slandering her…that was the worst of it then.
No one needs more mud. After reading about this wondeful priest on Deacon’s blog, he celebrated his birthday with 6 sacraments (busy but fun)an other religous doing great things, the church has a good foundation, it will survive a small hit.
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jmcrae
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The original charges don’t even matter any more. He has disobeyed a direct order from his superior, thus placing himself outside of the authority of the Church.
This is the worst possible thing he could have done to himself. Even if he is innocent of everything else, he has lost the grace of his priesthood through disobedience.
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