Fr. Corapi Responds to Some of His Order's Charges

[Shoshana]

Ha ha, I have my moments! That just came to me as I wrote, and I thought, “that’s apt.”

There is nothing funny about making jokes when a priest that we lost is DOWN…quite uncharitable actually.

But then again, this is only my opinion…an opinion that I cherish as I believe a prist is a priest is a priest, right or wrong.

St. Francis said to the sinful priest, after kissing his feet, '‘All I know
… is that your hands bring me Jesus Christ, I know nothing else.’ And oh my, this priest was living with his housekeeper, probably engaging in all kinds of immorality. Oh my!

And the priest repented and led a life of holiness…these words say it all. We shoudl follow St Francis’ example. But then again, he was holy…and desired to be holy!

 

[7_Sorrows]

Thanks Quis ut Deus, there are military analogies regarding our Faith. Also the Gospel spoke well of Roman Soldiers. We also, you probably know this, have theological aspects regarding the angels. So there are appropriate times and use of military applications.

While that is good. I still think Julianne and others objecting to Corapi’s own applications to boost himsefl are valid.

Seems to me, it is reflective of his own self-worth from his own embellished record, perhaps some form of compensation for a military record that he was compelled to exaggerate about.

Also his self-assignment of a Rogue Sheepdog, when he is a priest, and when we have the Bishops and the Pope. And Jesus as The shepherd is annoying and off putting to be honest.

I’ve seen that Sheepdog analogy before regarding some family members serving in the last decade. Jwinch has a point about world views especially since servicemen see us as civilians to protect/guard, but it certainly is being used out of context by Corapi. I agree with you and others that that specific analogy that has been used reflects specifically on Corapi’s obstinacy and less on any application toward HIS priestly duties. It’s a subjective twist on his own disobedience. It reminds me of when philosophers take an existing specific occurrence in one field, like in biology, and apply it in another field. It doesn’t work! Bishop Sheen even warns about this…

Yes on the bsd page last week, Fr. Corapi tends to talk down on his previous consumers in one of his comments replying to the “haters” and referring to them while he would take down the “haters” comments which are really just pleading with him to return, he won’t because he doesn’t want to displease them.

His carefully dressed comment (which agrees with the fan that those objecting to his decisions are ‘haters’ ) reminds me of the Pharisee saying something akin to “i’m so glad I’m not like the other sinners.” It’s like "Hey! you’re part of the Lord’s sheepfold too! " Only Jesus has the Truth, and he gives it & grace freely! Yet according to that comment, many are deprived and hungry without the ministry of a black sheep dog.

As long as he is disobedient, others have said, and from the pulse I got on his webpage which is really directed at remaining hangers-on, all you can get is half-truth and lies from now on…All this is punctuated by his “Onward!” phrasing.

Sheepdog my foot. It’s bogus.

couldn’t agree with you more! very good points!

 

[Jerry-Jet]

Did Jesus tell Father Corapi to resign the priesthood?

Has Jesus ever told any priest to resign the priesthood?

 

[Miriam1947]

Thanks for posting the link to Fighting Irish Thomas.

I’m afraid this is what happened regarding Fr. Euteneuer; folks stopped discussing the situation (saying they were beating a dead horse, or whatever), yet his victims are still waiting (and waiting!) for the bishop to defrock FTE, unable to battle this situation on their own by bringing him to court, as they themselves remain “gravely harmed.” And FWIW, Corapi was Fr. Euteneuer’s spiritual advisor (some do not know this), so these two men were closely-enough tied, anyway, which is more reason for prayer (and concern) all around. fightingirishthomas.com/2011/03/greatest-of-falls-was-corapi-complicit.html

I just read Fr. Euteneuer’s statement. Are you saying he is a liar?

 

[Quis_ut_Deus_3]

Has Jesus ever told any priest to resign the priesthood?

:bluelite:
May the grace and peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

You ask a very pointed and cut-to-the-chase question*…“Has Jesus ever told any priest to resign the priesthood.” *I would have to answer “no”. I can’t think of any situation where Jesus would will for one of His priests to resign.

I once knew a very holy, religious priest who had his faculties removed by a very influencial Bishop who persuaded the priest’s superior to suspend him. This Bishop later resigned admist the scandal that he had paid $400,000 of hush money (taken from the Diocese) to a man he was accused of having sexual relationships with.

The priest was humble and entirely submissive to the whole humiliating, persecuting process. After about one year of “house arrest,” he was invited to incardinate in another Diocese and all of his priestly faculties were restored.

The whole situation surrounding Fr Corapi is most unfortunate. I believe he was the greatest Catholic preacher of our times…and this did win for him many enemies. At the same time, any one of us is capable of falling.

Let us continue in prayer…

God bless you,
Quis ut Deus 3 :bluelite:

 

[Netty313]

I just read Fr. Euteneuer’s statement. Are you saying he is a liar?

Father’s mea culpa was weak, and not complete. The parents’ statement of the “gravely harmed” woman is at this link, and although not the full story, it is accurate.

 

[Miriam1947]

Father’s mea culpa was weak, and not complete. The parents’ statement of the “gravely harmed” woman is at this link, and although not the full story, it is accurate.

Not going there.

 

[Netty313]

Not going there.

Can’t blame you; it is a painful story (even the small portion that is known). For anyone else interested, here’s a link to a statement from a friend of the woman “gravely harmed” by Fr. Euteneuer.

In addition to Fr. Corapi’s situation, prayers are still needed for the victims of FTE as well (not to mention Father himself).

 

[7_Sorrows]

both of those links by the woman’s father and her friend are very disturbing.
the story of maciel was disturbing. for corapi, we have heard charges and accusations
and i wish a thorough investigation would follow.

 

[debraran]

I don’t think there will be an investigation especially if there is any truth to the charges. SOLT can’t do anything and Fr. Corapi might sue but that wont be an investigation. I don’t think anything will happen for a long time. The accuser was asked to not contact or talk about him for 5 years although her family might with his okay. Her husband is an independent contractor with his company.
His CDs will be out, some will buy them, his book will be out and some will buy it but he will be careful what is in print now.

Any loss of a priest is sad, but one that gave the Eucharist, celebrated mass, heard confessions, makes a larger void, maybe not to God but to others.

I don’t know what path John Corapi will take, but I will say a Thank you to our parish priest, something I don’t think he hears often enough.

 

[Netty313]

both of those links by the woman’s father and her friend are very disturbing.
the story of maciel was disturbing. for corapi, we have heard charges and accusations
and i wish a thorough investigation would follow.

I agree; they are disturbing, and I’m hoping there’s some sort of investigation currently going on with FTE. As far as Corapi goes, we are not going to be following “The Black Sheep Dog” anywhere, but will pray for the return of Fr. Corapi.

P.S. Love your “handle.” We pray the 7 Sorrows every day!

 

[NewEnglandPriest]

In addition to Fr. Corapi’s situation, prayers are still needed for the victims of FTE as well (not to mention Father himself).

Fr. Corapi was Fr. Euteneuer’s spiritual director for a time…

 

[sojo]

There is nothing funny about making jokes when a priest that we lost is DOWN…quite uncharitable actually.

But then again, this is only my opinion…an opinion that I cherish as I believe a prist is a priest is a priest, right or wrong.

St. Francis said to the sinful priest, after kissing his feet, '‘All I know
… is that your hands bring me Jesus Christ, I know nothing else.’ And oh my, this priest was living with his housekeeper, probably engaging in all kinds of immorality. Oh my!

And the priest repented and led a life of holiness…these words say it all. We shoudl follow St Francis’ example. But then again, he was holy…and desired to be holy!

Actually, it was VERY funny! It is the odd and beautiful part of the human nature that even in death camps, people find bits of humor. Even at the point of death, some people find humor. Humor at wakes and funeral is a fact of life. We laugh because it enables us to clear the air, take stock and move on in what is often a very dismal life. It is a God-given gift. Or as the kids say, “some folks just need to chill…”

“From gloomy Saints, protect us oh Lord!” -St. Theresa of Avila

 

[Netty313]

I don’t know what path John Corapi will take, but I will say a Thank you to our parish priest, something I don’t think he hears often enough.

Online scuttlebutt suggests The Black Sheep Dog might soon be affiliated somehow with The Skull Church in Kalispell, MT. They are a non-denominational group that appeals to the 16-24 year old demographic. Lots of rock concerts, charged-up preaching, interesting t-shirts, hip website graphics, stuff like that. Sans Eucharist, of course, but they seem sincere in their Christian message. It would explain his tan and hair coloring (and “cool” Harley-Davidson jacket), not to mention his absence of anything Mary. Boy, how she weeps …

Crying for Corapi

 

[Netty313]

It is the odd and beautiful part of the human nature that even in death camps, people find bits of humor…We laugh because it enables us to clear the air, take stock and move on in what is often a very dismal life. Or as the kids say, “some folks just need to chill…”

You’re right on target! Humor *can *be healing; one needs only to read the accounts of martyrs such as St. Thomas More and St. Lawrence, who joked even as they were getting executed.

 

[7_Sorrows]

I agree; they are disturbing, and I’m hoping there’s some sort of investigation currently going on with FTE. As far as Corapi goes, we are not going to be following “The Black Sheep Dog” anywhere, but will pray for the return of Fr. Corapi.

P.S. Love your “handle.” We pray the 7 Sorrows every day!

i love both the 7 Sorrows and the 7 Joys. that is wonderfult that you pray the 7 Sorrows everyday.
we do need to pray to Mary and her Son for the return of Father Corapi.

 

[7_Sorrows]

Actually, it was VERY funny! It is the odd and beautiful part of the human nature that even in death camps, people find bits of humor. Even at the point of death, some people find humor. Humor at wakes and funeral is a fact of life. We laugh because it enables us to clear the air, take stock and move on in what is often a very dismal life. It is a God-given gift. Or as the kids say, “some folks just need to chill…”

“From gloomy Saints, protect us oh Lord!” -St. Theresa of Avila

 

[sojo]

both of those links by the woman’s father and her friend are very disturbing.
the story of maciel was disturbing. for corapi, we have heard charges and accusations
and i wish a thorough investigation would follow.

An investigation by three people experienced in priestly abuse was conducted - it was as thorough as possible considering Fr. Corapi blocked some important testimony for his own reasons. Fr. Sheehan, an experienced priest with no history of politics or scandal, an elected superior of a religious society, evaluated the results of the investigation and deemed Fr. Corapi to be guilty and unfit for ministry. None of us get to be copied on the evidence. As Br. JR educated us all, this is how the Church is set up, and we are entitled to no more. Indeed, the laity seldom gets as much information as we have in this case.

So we either call Fr. Sheehan a liar or Fr. Corapi. To give Fr. Corapi the benefit of the doubt is to call Fr. Sheehan a liar. In light of Fr. Sheehan’s long, faithful service to the Church, his backing by the local Bishop, and his position of authority, we must as Catholics accept his verdict, based on the 3 experts and the information they uncovered, and move on.

And I don’t believe this is a “dead horse” by any means. Every system has its breaking point. Fr. Ken, Mr. Maciel, Fr. Eutenauer, Fr. Mary Francis Stone, Fr. Cutier, Fr. Corapi… What if Fr. Corapi is the tipping point to a creating yet another new-age protestant type biker church?

But most of all, it has become apparent from some of his Facebook posts that John Corapi is following the blogs and this forum. We must not let him think that we will all just quietly sit back and pray while he starts some offshoot a la Luther. He somehow thinks he still has this enormous fan base that will follow him away from the Church (yeah, he claims he doesn’t want to do that, but that is exactly what he is doing).

Our best chance of Corapi facing the music and coming clean is for him to realize that his adoring fans are limited to a small cultish group, many of whom have succinctly un-Christian views of the Catholic Church.

 

[Netty313]

…So we either call Fr. Sheehan a liar or Fr. Corapi. To give Fr. Corapi the benefit of the doubt is to call Fr. Sheehan a liar. In light of Fr. Sheehan’s long, faithful service to the Church, his backing by the local Bishop, and his position of authority, we must as Catholics accept his verdict, based on the 3 experts and the information they uncovered, and move on…What if Fr. Corapi is the tipping point to a creating yet another new-age protestant type biker church?

But most of all, it has become apparent from some of his Facebook posts that John Corapi is following the blogs and this forum. We must not let him think that we will all just quietly sit back and pray while he starts some offshoot a la Luther…

Our best chance of Corapi facing the music and coming clean is for him to realize that his adoring fans are limited to a small cultish group, many of whom have succinctly un-Christian views of the Catholic Church.

… Did you happen to see this link earlier in the thread? He agrees with your Luther summation and I agree with your “protestant biker church” thought, especially if he goes ahead and starts preaching at “The Skull Church.”

Crying for Corapi

 

[sojo]

Thank you for that link! Yes, it seems I’m not the only one with that concern.

I would gladly kiss the hands of our beloved and overworked priest. But would any of us truly want to kiss the hands of Fr. Cutie after he slid those hands into the bikini bottom of the married woman he cavorted with on the beach? The one he was sleeping with at the same time he was serving Mass as a priest and then married and left the Catholic Church to become an Episcopalian priest and denied the Catholic Church.

Let’s be real.