Fr. Gabriele Amorth: 'St. Padre Pio knew the Third Secret of Fatima'

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Published recently for the first time in the English language are words from Rome’s chief exorcist, Father Gabriele Amorth (d. 2016), about Padre Pio and his knowledge of the Third Secret of Fatima. They come from a newly published book written by José María Zavala, entitled The Best Kept Secret of Fatima (El Sécreto Mejor Guardado de Fátima).

According to the late Father Gabriele Amorth, Padre Pio knew the third secret of Fatima before it was released.
"Forgive me for insisting on the Third Secret of Fatima: Did Padre Pio relate it, then, to the loss of faith within the Church?”

Fr. Gabriele furrows his brow and sticks out his chin. He seems very affected.

“Indeed,” he states, “One day Padre Pio said to me very sorrowfully: ‘You know, Gabriele? It is Satan who has been introduced into the bosom of the Church and within a very short time will come to rule a false Church.’”
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Very, very interesting esp the last three words in your post–“a false church.”

I have been wondering about this if it could actually come to a false church. I know Jesus said he will be with us unto the end of the age… always… but he also asked “When I do come, will there be faith on earth?” I know he, Jesus, is in charge of his church… so?
 
So either PJPII was a liar or Padre Pio was? The third secret was about PJPII assassination.

Honestly, given that most men are saints, I’m more inclined to trust a Pope. It seems to me that Armorth is being a trouble maker here.
 
During his time as Cardinal-Prefect of the Congregation of Doctrine of Faith, Cardinal Ratzinger (Pope Benedict XVI) gave his interpretation of the Third Secret of Fatima. The Meaning of the Mysterious Third Secret of Fatima, According to Cardinal Ratzinger | (within the link is the Vatican website on the Third Secret)

I have not heard of the Third Secret alluding to the Pope’s assassination attempt before. I have heard it to be a sort of warning for mankind, though. Most high up Vatican officials agree that the Third Secret concerns the Catholic Faith.
 
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The third secret concerns the assassination attempt on JPII. Please no conspiracy theorizing here.
 
Who but Satan would cause someone to shoot the Pope and shake the faith of as many Catholics as possible if that Pope were to die?
 
Fr Amorth has said things in the past which he can’t back up.

One, he claimed to have performed 70,000 exorcisms in 26 years.

For that to be true, he would have to average 7 exorcisms per day without a break.

On the 3rd Secret, St John Paul II spoke with Sister Lucia and asked her if the 3rd secret involved the assassination attempt on him ? She said it did.

If you read the letter of the 3rd Secret which was released, it’s akin to reading the Book of Revelation.

Lots of symbolic language which Sister Lucia couldn’t unders. The same was true for predictions by the Blessed Mother, Lucia didn’t understand them clearly until they took place.

Jim
 
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So either PJPII was a liar or Padre Pio was?
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You seem to be missing an option and that is what Armorth said about what Padre Pio told him is incorrect.
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Good point. I was going on the basis that he was pitting Pio’s words against PJPII. But considering Amorth’s documented history of exaggeration, it seems that perhaps he is the bad player in this mix.
 
It is widely known that the third secret is about the loss of faith. Not a conspiracy theory at all. Would you consider Pope Benedict XVI a conspiracy theorist?
 
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It is widely known that the third secret is about the loss of faith. Not a conspiracy theory at all. Would you consider Pope Benedict XVI a conspiracy theorist?
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He was only a Cardinal when he made commentary on it.
 
I can understand if Amorth were to mix up the amount of exorcisms he has done (most likely because he has done so many, it is hard to keep track) but I do not see how it is possible for a person who battles the devil on the daily to make up a story that did not happen.
 
This is from the Vatican website:
The original text, in Portuguese, was read and interpreted with the help of the Bishop of Leiria-Fatima. Sister Lucia agreed with the interpretation that the third part of the “secret” was a prophetic vision, similar to those in sacred history. She repeated her conviction that the vision of Fatima concerns above all the struggle of atheistic Communism against the Church and against Christians, and describes the terrible sufferings of the victims of the faith in the twentieth century.
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I am not claiming anybody is a liar or not telling the truth. All was doing was pointing out a third option to the either JPII or Pio lying claim. my intent was just to point out that there could be other options than calling this saint or that saint a liar.
 
OnePeterFive is not in any way a Catholic Church ministry. This means they are less credible than other programs that do meet that standard.

Why is it important to dig up quotes from one deceased priest, quoting another deceased priest, about what a document from a deceased sister related to a private revelation might have communicated? Either of those priests could have communicated something publicly during their lifetime if it was important.

Fr. Amorth was apparently a skilled exorcist. I respect that. But how does that job title relate to Fatima? If you wanted to know more about Fatima, wouldn’t the logical step be to contact the Holy See, or the current bishop of Fatima?
 
One peter 5 is an authentic catholic site dedicated to the protection of the catholic religion against the tide of heresy prevelant today in society and in the church herself.

it is not perfect but certainly not a nut job site.
 
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misstherese said:
This is from the Vatican website:
The original text, in Portuguese, was read and interpreted with the help of the Bishop of Leiria-Fatima. Sister Lucia agreed with the interpretation that the third part of the “secret” was a prophetic vision, similar to those in sacred history. She repeated her conviction that the vision of Fatima concerns above all the struggle of atheistic Communism against the Church and against Christians, and describes the terrible sufferings of the victims of the faith in the twentieth century.
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Okay, what does this have to do with onepeterfive pushing another story that paints the current Church in a questionable light?
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You have misunderstood several points.

The interview was not originally from OnePeterFive, but from a book about Fatima.

I would add that OnePeterFive is nothing but Catholic. Are “traditionalist” websites to you considered “non-Catholic”? If so, that worries me.

I’m literally just reporting an article. You can agree with it or not.
 
This has absolutely nothing to do with OnePeterFIve. The story isn’t even from OnePeterFive.

Someone claimed the Third Secret of Fatima was about Pope John Paul II’s assassination attempt. I was providing evidence for the contrary.
 
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This has absolutely nothing to do with OnePeterFIve. The story isn’t even from OnePeterFive.

Someone claimed the Third Secret of Fatima was about Pope John Paul II’s assassination attempt. I was providing evidence for the contrary.
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Every source has a bias that colors the truth. The Vatican is the only true source.

OnePeterFive ran the story and they did it with technicolor rainbow neon which skews the whole truth of the matter and makes PJPII sound like a weak-willed ninny in face of the amazing powerhouses that are Pio and Amorth. However, even a cursory glance at the vatican website spells a far different picture.
 
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