when archbishop lefebvre did the orinations, he specifically stated in his speech that he was not the pope, and he felt that it was necessary to ordain the 4 priests. he never once declared he was pope, and no one in the society ever declared they have set themselves up as pope, nor have they even tried to. do you have enequivocal proof to support this statement? i’d like to see it if you do.
First I would like to point out I meant acting as their own Pope as I mean when I say protestants act as their own Pope, not meaning they claim to be pope, or claim the papacy, but rather, they set themselves up as their own authority.
I would as well.
I love this post, Formosus. EWTN and Mother Angelica played a large part in my conversion. As I recall, she herself had ties to the charismatic movement, but did not like the direction it was heading. It is hard for me not to see EWTN as a bastion of Catholic orthodoxy, but maybe I’m glad my cable provider does not carry it now. If EWTN has changed, I am glad I have not witnessed the changes! As you say, “EWTN is not God,” and we are not bound in any way to believe in the prophesies of Fatima–although I do!EWTN is not God. It is perfectly acceptable to disagree with EWTN’s openly (at times) charismatic tone or even to attack if for straying from Traditional Catholicism. As someone else said, if Mother Angelica was running things still, there would not be any charismatic programming on there. Also it is perfectly acceptable to question whether the third secert was released or if Russia was not consecreted yet. These things are not magisterial, we are not even bound to beleive in Our Lady of Fatima. (With that note, I do indeed beleive in Our Lady of Fatima)
I agree. I think the traditionalists have many valid points about the problems in the church today. I don’t know whether they are the direct result of Vatican II and the NO, as they claim, or if they were hijacked by those with their own agenda). However, when I read their literature I sometimes notice a rather strident tone, a “we’re right, everyone else is wrong” mentality. To paraphrase St Paul, “If I have orthodoxy but I have not love, I have nothing.”
Oh yeah? Tell that to the Free Mason Archbishop Bugnini, banished in shame to Tehran & the Protestants who helped “fabricate” the new mess. They certainly “reformed” (more like almost destroying) the Latin Rite Catholic Mass and they were clearly far from the faith. So much scorn for the SSPX on these forums, but if the Pope does an Assisi, prays towards Mecca, or has some other kind of inter-religious service, there is high 5s all over the place as if your NFL team won their playoff game this year. May God Bless the Society of St. Pius and all those within the Catholic who work to “restore all things in Christ.”
I pray for unity and I pray that all things are restored in Christ,
This statement is uncharitable. There has never been any proof of Archbishop Bugnini being a freemason, or the reason why he was sent to Iran.
First off, yes there is no proof, and secondly, whenever bishops get sent to far-off countries with very few Catholics as papal nuncios, it is usually seen as a form of punishment. Last I checked, I don’t think there were many Catholics in Iran. Think of Archbishop Michael Fitzgerald, who was recently sent off to Egypt by the pope…
I’ll be throwing the party. You’re invited.angelqueen.org
Are you far from Pittsburgh, PA?
Peace,
Melvin
paramedicgirl;1815856:
Nope. The far north. As in Canada.I’ll be throwing the party. You’re invited.angelqueen.org
Are you far from Pittsburgh, PA?
Peace,
Melvin
Once again, the same old unsubstantiated stories. Do your homework instead of just repeating the same stuff.