Fr John Corapi has Announced in a Video Message that he is Leaving the Priesthood

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St Francis is quoted as saying “Preach the Gospel at all times. Where necessary, use words.”

I find this turn of events troubling. I’m I the only one who feels he is walking away and breaking with the Magisterium? That is he turning his back on so much that he has preached and encouraged us to do?

I have several of this DVS’s I love the one on the Triduum. But now I know that if I were to watch that during Lent my thoughts are going to be “he walked away. he abandoned all that he taught from the pulpit”.

I pray for him and for all that have been touched by his message thru the years. I can only speak for me, but now I feel that the authentic credibility I felt he had, he has tossed aside as he walks away.

Authentic credibility means something to me. It actually means a lot to me infact.

I pray for Mother Angelica. I can’t help but wonder of the wounds this may cause her.
 
In regards to the “Black Sheep Dog” trademark being filed over a year ago, I don’t know that we can necessarily infer anything about the present situation. Sometimes people get an idea and they plan ahead. Perhaps he had already started on his autobiograohy and thought that would be a catchy title. And now, with the present incident, things just sort of played out this way.

It certainly is troubling when people become so attached to a particular preacher that they will follow them anywhere, even outside the Church. No one’s faith should rest on any particular individual besides Jesus. Fr. Corapi can’t be faulted for the misplaced devotion of a few zealous fans, though.

I’m interested to see what types of things he will preach about in the future. Time will tell, I suppose.

It certainly is a sad situation all around. Prayer is the best thing we can do.
 
kitkatty, I don’t think he wants a cult following, although I can understand your concerns. But I also think that he doesn’t want to cut off channels for others to reach out to him, since that could be far more disruptive, scandal-producing etc., than his decision to leave. He’s realistic enough to understand that his Catholic traditionalism has been a fixture and an anchor for many converts and reverts.

I think that such an action on his part would have had less controversy surrounding it without the blacksheepdog imagery, but again, this is all logically consequential. There’s a certain irony in the ‘blacksheep’ imagery which I’m sure is deliberate on his part, because in terms of his ministry, he has represented anything but a black sheep, and has preached against the proliferation of black sheeps in the priesthood and even episcopate.

People cannot expect him not to be angry – unless such people have created a saint out of him which he never intended or pretended to become. If you understand his personality, the anger is part and parcel of his expression toward injustice in and outside of the Church.
 
I find it very disturbing that, according to the article in the OP, Corapi blocked his order from investigating the charges against him by threatening to sue any of his employees that spoke to investigators. He said in the beginning that he wanted swift justice and for the truth to come out. His actions seem inconsistent with his stated goal. Not only may he have now effectively blocked the truth from ever becoming public, he hurls unsubstantiated charges at the bishops–the very thing he claims was done to him. And he apparently expects (or at least hopes) that some Catholics will continue to follow him even as he walks away from the Church. Very troubling.
 
I think I read that he had his former employees sign clauses stating that they were not to disclose anything that happened to them while in his employ and I find that a troubling too. Unless I missed something though I didn`t see where he said he is walking away from the Church but is leaving the priesthood.
 
I think I read that he had his former employees sign clauses stating that they were not to disclose anything that happened to them while in his employ and I find that a troubling too. Unless I missed something though I didn`t see where he said he is walking away from the Church but is leaving the priesthood.
He has renounced his priesthood, alleged that the bishops of the US are conspiring against him and announced that he will continue some kind of pastoral ministry outside of the priesthood. I suppose its theoretically possible that those actions don’t add up to walking away from the Church, but I am having trouble seeing how. Last time I checked, former clergy were not allowed to conduct pastoral ministries within the Church, so I assume whatever he is going to be doing in the future is going to be outside of the Church.
 
I find it very disturbing that, according to the article in the OP, Corapi blocked his order from investigating the charges against him by threatening to sue any of his employees that spoke to investigators. He said in the beginning that he wanted swift justice and for the truth to come out. His actions seem inconsistent with his stated goal. Not only may he have now effectively blocked the truth from ever becoming public, he hurls unsubstantiated charges at the bishops–the very thing he claims was done to him. And he apparently expects (or at least hopes) that some Catholics will continue to follow him even as he walks away from the Church. Very troubling.
Thank you TMC. I noticed that, too. And I found it troubling. Very much so.
 
Well I’m shocked Father would quit.

Our beloved church is all about strengthening us to bear our own individual cross’s. In my daily prayer book there’s even a prayer said on Fridays to cover the falsely persecuted called ‘Friends of the crucified’ .

I don’t know what he’s thinking of but I hope this action isn’t the result of …‘You can not serve both God and Mammon’… that I recall hearing from the pulpit yesterday, Trinity Sunday.

Father Corapi has been blessed with a successful mission which has enabled him to live a good life compared to our ‘in the trenches’ parish priests. But I’m sure Father Corapi knows that worldly success is but a wisp of vapor compared to our eternal reward.

Too be clear I can understand his frustration with being falsely accused.

Which I think he was. Why? Mostly because of his public acknowledgment of his less than sterling past. Doesn’t he strike most of us as the type of guy that would from the very beginning admit to some lapse of behavior standards because of a momentary low resistance to temptation if it were true?
 
He has renounced his priesthood, alleged that the bishops of the US are conspiring against him and announced that he will continue some kind of pastoral ministry outside of the priesthood. I suppose its theoretically possible that those actions don’t add up to walking away from the Church, but I am having trouble seeing how****. Last time I checked, former clergy were not allowed to conduct pastoral ministries within the Church****, so I assume whatever he is going to be doing in the future is going to be outside of the Church.
I’ve been looking and can’t find the specific canon or rule that says this. I’m sure it’s there because so many people have alluded to it…but does anyone know where/what it is exactly? Thanks. 🙂
 
Padre Pio came to mind when all of this started. There is such a thing as obediance. Christ never said we’d be treated fairly in this life. He said we would have a great place with him in Heaven if we were accused in this life for following Him. Father Corapi’s suffering was such a gift. I’m sorry that he seems to have thrown it away.

Don’t despair. Pray for the intercession of Padre Pio. and remember that Father Corapi no matter what he does going forward, taught the truth of our Faith for many years. Turtulian taught the truth of the Faith for many years too. I hope that John Corapi, if he keeps teaching, teaches the Truth of the Catholic faith.

God bless us all!
 
Padre Pio came to mind when all of this started. There is such a thing as obediance. Christ never said we’d be treated fairly in this life. He said we would have a great place with him in Heaven if we were accused in this life for following Him. Father Corapi’s suffering was such a gift. I’m sorry that he seems to have thrown it away.

Don’t despair. Pray for the intercession of Padre Pio. and remember that Father Corapi no matter what he does going forward, taught the truth of our Faith for many years. Turtulian taught the truth of the Faith for many years too. I hope that John Corapi, if he keeps teaching, teaches the Truth of the Catholic faith and does not waiver.

God bless us all!
 
Well, once ordained a priest, one is a priest forever (as it imparts an indellible mark upon the soul). However, priests can leave active ministry and even be laicized. It is certainly not desirable for priests to do so, but it happens. We shouldn’t presume anything negative about a man based upon that alone.
When a man is laicized, he receives what is known as a “rescript of laicization.” This is basically a boilerplate document that says what he may and may not do as a lay person.

Back in 2006, Jimmy Akin published a concise summary of what this boilerplate looks like. The key points are below (go to this link to see the actual boilerplate):

The main do’s and don’ts that pertain to how the priest is to conduct himself on an ongoing basis are found in sections 4 and 5 of the rescript and can be summarized as follows:
  1. He can’t celebrate any of the sacraments except for hearing deathbed confessions. It is especially noted that he can’t give homilies.
  2. He can’t serve as an extraordinary minister of holy Communion.
  3. He can’t serve any “directive office in the pastoral field” (e.g., serving as a parish administrator).
  4. He can’t do anything at all in a seminary.
  5. He can’t serve as a director or teacher in a Catholic university.
  6. He can’t teach theology or any closely related discipline (e.g., religious studies, history of theology) in a non-Catholic university.
  7. He can’t serve a director (e.g., school principal) in a parochial school.
  8. He can’t serve as a teacher in a parochial school unless he gets the bishop’s permission.
  9. He shouldn’t live in or frequent places where his status as an ex-priest is generally known, unless he gets the bishop’s permission.
    So, again, unless Father Corapi’s intent is to leave communion with the Church, his ability to do his job will be severely limited. That is, of course, unless he works out some special deal with the Vatican that limits him far less than the above. See point #9. Father Corapi would have a hard time functioning just about any place without people knowing who he was and that he is a priest.
 
He has renounced his priesthood, alleged that the bishops of the US are conspiring against him and announced that he will continue some kind of pastoral ministry outside of the priesthood. I suppose its theoretically possible that those actions don’t add up to walking away from the Church, but I am having trouble seeing how. Last time I checked, former clergy were not allowed to conduct pastoral ministries within the Church, so I assume whatever he is going to be doing in the future is going to be outside of the Church.
Maybe kitkatty means he will become a lay Catholic.
 
I believe that he is being scapegoated for others’ crimes and failings that were not prosecuted when those should have been addressed, prosecuted, etc. I think he probably believes so, too. I did appreciate the far more revelatory info provided by NCR than the portions of info & speculation provided elsewhere.

There’s a sequence here. And for those of you who have truly listened to him for a long period of time, the sequence is logical. This is a very independent man, a man of principle, and a man acquainted with the world. That doesn’t make him bad. It makes him a different kind of priest, but i.m.o. legitimately so. I appreciate completely, as one being thoroughly grounded in the tradition of religious orders, the comments below the article on his supposed “pride” et al. But independence is not necessarily sinful or faulty pride. I’m speaking now of his ‘apart’ lifestyle. He cannot be faulted for that. As the article and comments note, his decision to live outside of community occurred, and were approved, prior to the new SOLT Constitution. Now, as one who understands that by definition religious life is communal life, I also think that it was probably recognized by his superiors early on that the (previous) option to live apart was the best way, for this priest, to make his priesthood effective.

I don’t know about the whole ‘blacksheepdog’ thing. I don’t have a strong negative reaction to it, although I do understand why others would; I also don’t have a positive reaction to it. Again, though, picking up on his ‘persona’ through his many lectures, it is another logical development. He has somewhat presented himself, earlier on, as “rogue” or “renegade” or “singular” or “unusual” (my words, not his, and not the best words!) and not in a disobedient or dissenting way, but in an idiosyncratic way, and in a disapproving way when it comes to ignored scandal, ignored dissent, ignored lack of leadership within the Church.

I don’t think he’s being unfaithful. I think he is responding in his own way to his desire to be hyper-faithful as he understands that fidelity to all the core teachings of the Church, and, given his lack of opportunity to do that right now in the way that he has been able to do that optimally, has decided to leave. Again, judging from his personality, this is all logical, and he’s a logical guy. I think that if there’s an outcry from the faithful about this (in his support), it just may help to improve the investigative process for other priests, now & later, and perhaps that was one of his intentions in taking this action.

Again, I understand about community and religious life, but perhaps the Church might want to take a look at valid varieties of ministerial priesthood. His independence is a contra-indicator even for diocesan life. He has as much admitted that himself. (“I do not have a calling to parish ministry.”) It can also be argued that he has reached, and converted, and reverted, thousands more to Catholicism, as a lone preacher, than he ever would have in a parish or in communal religious life. As an itinerant preacher, he has done enormous good for the conversion of sinners and has done so in communion with the magisterium. There are itinerant preacher Orders (such as the Fathers of Mercy), yes, but I do think on the occasional and rare basis in which a Fr. John Corapi comes along, the Church might consider that there’s a third way other than community or diocesan lifestyle.

Unlike many others on CAF and elsewhere, I am not scandalized by his decision. I have not lost an ounce of respect for him. And I will keep him just as much in my prayers, probably more so.
You stole my whole post! 😃

No, seriously, on the drive home I was thinking about this latest news, and you said exactly what I wanted to say. 👍

I will only add that I saw John Corapi as a living Prodigal Son. He has been a target for a long time. Just my opinion here, but there seem to be people who register at Catholic forums just to bash him and spread innuendo under the guise of ‘concern,’ and they are legion. Who and what does this type of ‘concern’ serve?

Something unusual is going on. That’s all we know.
 
When a man is laicized, he receives what is known as a “rescript of laicization.” This is basically a boilerplate document that says what he may and may not do as a lay person.

Back in 2006, Jimmy Akin published a concise summary of what this boilerplate looks like. The key points are below (go to this link to see the actual boilerplate):

The main do’s and don’ts that pertain to how the priest is to conduct himself on an ongoing basis are found in sections 4 and 5 of the rescript and can be summarized as follows:
  1. He can’t celebrate any of the sacraments except for hearing deathbed confessions. It is especially noted that he can’t give homilies.
  2. He can’t serve as an extraordinary minister of holy Communion.
  3. He can’t serve any “directive office in the pastoral field” (e.g., serving as a parish administrator).
  4. He can’t do anything at all in a seminary.
  5. He can’t serve as a director or teacher in a Catholic university.
  6. He can’t teach theology or any closely related discipline (e.g., religious studies, history of theology) in a non-Catholic university.
  7. He can’t serve a director (e.g., school principal) in a parochial school.
  8. He can’t serve as a teacher in a parochial school unless he gets the bishop’s permission.
  9. He shouldn’t live in or frequent places where his status as an ex-priest is generally known, unless he gets the bishop’s permission.
    So, again, unless Father Corapi’s intent is to leave communion with the Church, his ability to do his job will be severely limited. That is, of course, unless he works out some special deal with the Vatican that limits him far less than the above. See point #9. Father Corapi would have a hard time functioning just about any place without people knowing who he was and that he is a priest.
What could be done to him if he violates any or all of the above?
 
I haven’t followed the allegations in detail, but a blogger pointed out an oddity. Apparently, when the accusations first came out, he claimed to barely know the woman. In his announcement, he said she was someone he “did more to help and support than any human being in my entire life.” That does seem odd.

That said, he also says “I love the Catholic Church and accept what has transpired.” I hope that means he won’t lead people astray. My guess is he just wants to become an ordinary, non-priestly speaker. I know he’ll be limited due to the rules of laicization. While a sad thing, it will be interesting to see what he does.

I pray that he comes to an awakening as strong as the one that brought about his conversion. I pray that his attachment to worldly things diminishes in favor of the greater glory of God. I pray that for the rest of us, especially myself, as well.
 

The main do’s and don’ts that pertain to how the priest is to conduct himself on an ongoing basis are found in sections 4 and 5 of the rescript and can be summarized as follows:
  1. He can’t celebrate any of the sacraments except for hearing deathbed confessions. It is especially noted that he can’t give homilies.
  2. He can’t serve as an extraordinary minister of holy Communion.
  3. He can’t serve any “directive office in the pastoral field” (e.g., serving as a parish administrator).
  4. He can’t do anything at all in a seminary.
  5. He can’t serve as a director or teacher in a Catholic university.
  6. He can’t teach theology or any closely related discipline (e.g., religious studies, history of theology) in a non-Catholic university.
  7. He can’t serve a director (e.g., school principal) in a parochial school.
  8. He can’t serve as a teacher in a parochial school unless he gets the bishop’s permission.
  9. He shouldn’t live in or frequent places where his status as an ex-priest is generally known, unless he gets the bishop’s permission.
I’ve read of some dissident nuns and priests who should get this treatment.
 
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