Francis: “I’ll tell you about a time they tried to bribe me”

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In his interview with journalists on the return flight from Manila Francis talked about an experience he had in Buenos Aires, when officials asked for a bribe in exchange for funds for the poor. He mentioned gender as an example of the “colonisation of peoples”, recalling dictatorships’ attempts at indoctrination. He announced forthcoming trips to Africa and Latin America and repeated the example of the punch. While talking about falling birth rates he also pointed out that being Catholic does not mean breeding “like rabbits”. He said he was touched by the gestures of the Filipinos. He recommended Benson’s “Lord of the World” as a book worth reading

ANDREA TORNIELLI
ON THE FLIGHT FROM MANILA TO ROME

Francis had tears in his eyes as he described the striking gestures of Filipinos during his visit. When asked what he meant by the phrase “ideological colonisation” of the family, he responded with a concrete example of a first hand experience he had in Argentina when the condition for receiving funding for schools was linked to the introduction of textbooks on the gender theory. In his interview with journalists on the return flight from Manila to Rome Francis returned to the issues of freedom of expression and provocation, reiterating that violence is unjustified but calling on people to exercise the human virtue of prudence. Speaking about corruption, he recalled an incident he experienced first hand. He announced that he would be visiting Latin America and Africa in the coming months. He talked about contraception and responsible parenthood denouncing the neo-Malthusian theory in favour of birth control. But regarding child birth he also said: “Some think that being a good Catholic meansbreeding like rabbits.” At the end of the press conference which lasted over an hour, Francis wished the dean of the Vatican press corps, Televisa’s Mexican journalist Valentina Alazraki, happy birthday. He presented her with a gift and offered her and all journalists on board a cake to celebrate.

What the Filipinos taught me
“I was moved by their gestures, they were not formal gestures that followed protocol, they were genuine gestures that came from the heart (the Pope said this with tears welling up in his eyes, Ed.). Faith, love, family, the future, in that gesture fathers made of lifting their children up so the Pope could bless them. They lifted their children up, a gesture you don’t see in other parts of the world. It was as if they were saying: this here is my treasure, this is my future, this is what makes working and suffering worth it. A unique gesture that came from the heart. The second thing that struck me a great deal was their genuine enthusiasm, their joy, their happiness, their ability to celebrate. Even in the rain… Mothers who brought their sick children… So many disabled children, disabilities you really notice,they didn’t hide their children, they brought them with them so they could be blessed: this is my child, it’s like this but it’s mine. All mothers do this but it was the way in which it was done that struck me… A maternal and paternal gesture. A people who know how to suffer and are able to get back on their feet and get on with life.”

The rest of the article, which is fairly lengthy, can be read at the link.
 
Isn’t it bad enough when catholic families whose openness to life has resulted in large, boisterous and stressful family sizes get mocked and disparaged by the secular culture? Called breeders, eco-catastrophes, over-populators, etc…

Now they get the joy of having the POPE describe them as “breeding like rabbits?”

You come to expect to be kicked by your enemies. When you get kicked in the gut by your own leaders, it still hurts. A little consideration of how words will be heard please, your Holiness?
 
Isn’t it bad enough when catholic families whose openness to life has resulted in large, boisterous and stressful family sizes get mocked and disparaged by the secular culture? Called breeders, eco-catastrophes, over-populators, etc…

Now they get the joy of having the POPE describe them as “breeding like rabbits?”

You come to expect to be kicked by your enemies. When you get kicked in the gut by your own leaders, it still hurts. A little consideration of how words will be heard please, your Holiness?
Pope Francis is our spiritual father. Do you really think he meant to insult Catholic families? A more charitable view would be to assume that when he said ““Some think that…” he was speaking of non-Catholics who think that we just keep popping out as many babies as we possibly can without any consideration at all. Whereas Catholic families, especially those who practice NFP, know how much consideration they put into how many children they want and when so they can properly care for them, and as Pope, he is probably well aware of this.
 
Pope Francis is our spiritual father. Do you really think he meant to insult Catholic families?
One likes to think not. Which is why one would prefer words that we don’t need to ignore the actual meaning of the words in order to avoid the hurt. The quote and the context did NOT repudiate the assertion of the secularists that catholics with large families “breed like rabbits.” On the contrary, the quote plainly says that catholics are not morally compelled to behave that way. There is no repudiation of the anti-human sentiment that those with large families are unthinking animals in that quote. The lack of such repudiation is what hurts since it gives tacit permission for those who feel that way about big families to CONTINUE feeling that way and asserting it as truth.

Yes, we can be big boys and suck it up. Just like we have to do around secularists. It just would be nice not to have the shields up when around friends.
 
Pope Francis is our spiritual father. Do you really think he meant to insult Catholic families? A more charitable view would be to assume that when he said ““Some think that…” he was speaking of non-Catholics who think that we just keep popping out as many babies as we possibly can without any consideration at all. Whereas Catholic families, especially those who practice NFP, know how much consideration they put into how many children they want and when so they can properly care for them, and as Pope, he is probably well aware of this.
👍 100% agree! We need to listen to our Holy Father with a spirit of charity. I’ve seen some many negative comments on this statement in the last 24 hours. I see absolutely nothing malicious in his comments.

People (especially Catholics) need to step back and actually listen to (and meditate on) what the Holy Father is actually saying and not be inflamed with knee-jerk reactions.
 
Isn’t it bad enough when catholic families whose openness to life has resulted in large, boisterous and stressful family sizes get mocked and disparaged by the secular culture? Called breeders, eco-catastrophes, over-populators, etc…

Now they get the joy of having the POPE describe them as “breeding like rabbits?”

You come to expect to be kicked by your enemies. When you get kicked in the gut by your own leaders, it still hurts. A little consideration of how words will be heard please, your Holiness?
Did you even bother to read the entire statement, to get the context, before you lashed out at the Pope? It doesn’t look like it.
 
The Pope is condemning the breeder mentality, this must mean the gay agenda has seduced him to the dark side.

(For those who don’t know me I am joking.)
 
The Pope is condemning the breeder mentality, this must mean the gay agenda has seduced him to the dark side.

(For those who don’t know me I am joking.)
What breeder mentality? People all over the place are having less kids.
 
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