Francis to Abolish Summorum Pontificorum?

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Yes he can. He has The Keys.
 
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The past Office of the Papacy can not bind the future Office of the Papacy because it is the same Office.
 
These rumours have been floating around for a while. It is true that His Holiness has criticized certain groups with an unhealthy attachment to everything pre-VII. That being said, who knows if he will actually take steps…
Regardless, I can’t imagine groups like the FSSP would be impacted.
If diocesan priests are no longer able to celebrate the EF, perhaps we’ll see a surge in Latin, Ad Orientem, sung OF Masses.
 
I know you don’t want to hear this, but LSN is FAR from a reliable source.

If the Fishwrap (National ‘catholic’ Reporter, NCR) is a garbage far left rag, then LifeSiteNews (LSN) is the opposite side of the same coin - a garbage far right rag.

The Pope has the authority to modify or suppress SP, but I highly doubt he would.
 
I have no doubt that Pope Francis would like to abolish Summorum Pontificorum. But will he? I don’t think so, at least as long as Pope Benedict lives. After that he would be more likely, but I think he would rather rage other battles than the battle to eradicate the EF.
 
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Can a Pope revoke the Motu Proprio of another Pope?
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Why couldn’t he? Saying Mass according to the old Missal isn’t a matter of unchanging dogma.

As others have said, I can’t see him actually doing this. Even if Francis wanted to (something no one can actually know), to completely reverse a papal document from just 10 years ago would be a bit uncharacteristic of any pope. Not that he couldn’t do so. He certainly could. But to what end?
 
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He certainly could. But to what end?
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I think it’d be incredibly imprudent.

It would drive a further wedge in between the CC and the SSPX as well as the Eastern Orthodox (there Western Rite uses variants of the Ambrosian and Tridentine - they call it Gregorian - Masses). It would also cause a huge uproar in traditional societies like ICKSP and FSSP.

So, it would almost certainly foment schism, it would put a stumblingblock in front of SSPX and Orthodox Christians, and it would devastate traditional Catholic communities. I’d be VERY upset with the Pope if he did such a thing, though I would humbly submit to the lawful ecclesial authority of the Vicar of Christ on Earth.

I would also hope it wouldn’t ALL be negative and that the comment @twf made would come true - that it would lead to a resurgence of the Ordinary Form(OF) being celebrated Ad Orientem, an increase of usage of Latin in the OF, and more Masses being chanted and/or traditional Roman chants being used more throughout the Latin Church.
 
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Maximilian75 said:
A source close to the Pope suggests he hopes to sequester traditionalists into the Society of St. Pius X.
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That just doesn’t sound like something he would do. LifeSite does tend to get carried away sometimes (trying to be charitable here).
 
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Can Francis do this? Can a Pope revoke the Motu Proprio of another Pope?
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I guess he can do it, but I don’t think he actually will. What I DO think that the Pope is likely to do is to revise the Traditional Latin Mass, which it hasn’t seen for more than 50 years. Change some of the prayers, have it use a common lectionary with the Mainstream Vernacular Mass which is an act ecumenicalism, bring girls aboard as altar servers, possible examples given.

But getting rid of the TLM, I don’t think that is even being considered.
 
First understand that when Pope Benedict XVI issued Summorum Pontificorum, it was a compromise with SSPX, in the hope of getting members to return to full union with the Church.

Well, that hasn’t happen to any great extent and if anything, it only managed to cause more division in the Church.

So on that basis alone, Pope Francis could rescind Summorum Pontificorum.

However, if you read the article from LSN, it doesn’t identify anyone in the Vatican who is saying this is even being considered.

Instead, they say "sources inside the Vatican suggest. " What sources ?

This is nothing more than spreading false rumors and treating news as mere parlor gossip.

Jim
 
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I was aware of that statement you made —
which is precisely the reason why I prefaced my remark with “I know you don’t want to hear this, but LSN is FAR from a reliable source”.

The sources used for these types of discussions DO matter. Using a far right, non credible source with an agenda such as LSN as the starting point for this conversation makes this entire dialogue a mere exercise in futility.
 
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That question was adequately answered.

Yes, the Pope could — theoretically.

No, he probably shouldn’t — hopefully.

But if he did, the correct Catholic response would be to humbly submit to the authority of the Pope and accept his decision. Being up in arms over it or going into schism over it would be a severely unCatholic response, and unfortunately, many Catholics would probably respond in just that way.
 
I really don’t think Pope Francis is going to abolish Summorum Pontificum. As someone noted, it has only been around for about 10 years. And Benedict is still alive. That would truly be a slap in the face to him. I don’t think Francis is as imprudent as that.

Once Benedict dies…Maybe. But it would still cause massive division with the vocal minority that is the EF goers howl. I definitely would.
 
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Being up in arms over it or going into schism over it would be a severely unCatholic response, and unfortunately, many Catholics would probably respond in just that way.
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I think a number of Catholics would be “up in arms” about it, but I don’t think very many would actually officially leave the Church over it. Complaining about things is part of the human condition, a lot of Catholics and others complain about all kinds of things.
 
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