Free-range pigs -- not so happy

  • Thread starter Thread starter spencelo
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
spencelo said:
Are you telling me that, unless you hunt and eat meat, you won’t be able to survive? It’s a serious question.
Click to expand...
Look, mate, I could survive on beer.

I could also survive on a diet of peanuts.

I could also survive on a diet of red meat.

But I’d rather have all three together:p
 
triumphguy said:
Look, mate, I could survive on beer.

I could also survive on a diet of peanuts.

I could also survive on a diet of red meat.

But I’d rather have all three together:p
Click to expand...
You’re essentially admitting that a meat-based diet isn’t necessary, but you simply prefer it.
 
spencelo said:
You’re essentially admitting that a meat-based diet isn’t necessary, but you simply prefer it.
Click to expand...
STOP putting words in peoples’ mouths. Bad Vegan:tsktsk:

You know what happens when you assume?

You make an *** out of you and me.

Nope: I am saying I could SURVIVE on live earthworms… but to live, thrive, remain healthy I need to eat as my ancestors and forbears did for a hundred thousand years - more meat and less grain.
 
triumphguy said:
Nope: I am saying I could SURVIVE on live earthworms… but to live, thrive, remain healthy I need to eat as my ancestors and forbears did for a hundred thousand years - more meat and less grain.
Click to expand...
You can survive and remain healthy on a vegan diet. Why do you deny this?
 
adrift said:
yes
Click to expand...
That’s an absurd, skeptical position to take. What’s wrong with kicking a cat for fun, in your view? The cat can’t tell me that she wants me to stop, or that she doesn’t like being kicked, so why should I stop?
 
triumphguy said:
**I **can?

Have you been talking to my doctor behind my back?:confused:
Click to expand...
Why can’t you live a healthy life on a vegan diet? Have you seriously considered it? Have you consulted any nutritionists about the matter?

And if you could, would you?
 
Ridgerunner said:
I will admit that I have not been in every processing plant in the country. The ones I have been in were those of state-of-the-art companies. I have not been in a beef-processing plant, but am told that they’re similar to the pork plants I have been in. If so, then the process I previously described is the same.
Click to expand...
Under the assumption it is as you said, then such a plaint in my idea would be labeled as non-cruel.
 
spencelo said:
Why can’t you live a healthy life on a vegan diet? Have you seriously considered it? Have you consulted any nutritionists about the matter?

And if you could, would you?
Click to expand...
Have you considered the Masai’s diet? It’s worked for them from time immemorial.

And… even if I could (possibly) live a healthy diet as a vegan why would I or should I, when I can have a perfectly healthy diet that includes real food? And that tastes better than cardboard and nettles.

I know you won’t consider the Masai’s diet, and they look pretty healthy to me.
 
triumphguy said:
Have you considered the Masai’s diet? It’s worked for them from time immemorial.
Click to expand...
It involves harming animals, from what I can tell, so why would I consider it?
triumphguy said:
And… even if I could (possibly) live a healthy diet as a vegan why would I or should I, when I can have a perfectly healthy diet that includes real food?
Click to expand...
First, a vegan diet includes “real” food as well – I don’t eat fake carrots or broccoli. Second, if you can live a perfectly healthy life on a vegan diet, then it follows that an omnivorous diet isn’t necessary.
 
So according to Spencelo, the ultimate and best arbiters of morality are the likes of PETA and the Animal Liberation Front? Good grief! :doh2:
They are not paragons of what they preach!
 
spencelo said:
It involves harming animals, from what I can tell, so why would I consider it?

**First, a vegan diet includes “real” food as well **-- I don’t eat fake carrots or broccoli. Second, if you can live a perfectly healthy life on a vegan diet, then it follows that an omnivorous diet isn’t necessary.
Click to expand...
  1. Eating vegan involves killing veggies.
  2. Tofu… I rest my case.
And you can live a healthy diet on a purely animal protein, so again an omnivorous diet (or vegan one) isn’t necessary.

Consider the Inuit. When their diet consisted solely of fish, seal and whale blubber they were far healthier than today.
 
BlueEyedLady said:
I hear this a lot but I have never heard a rational basis (or any basis, for that matter) for that assertion. Why would caring about the welfare of animals automatically mean that someone cares less about children? That’s kind of a random and cruel thing to say about someone.
Click to expand...
Not to mention that it is an idiotic thing to say about someone.
 
triumphguy said:
  1. Eating vegan involves killing veggies.
  2. Tofu… I rest my case.
And you can live a healthy diet on a purely animal protein, so again an omnivorous diet (or vegan one) isn’t necessary.

Consider the Inuit. When their diet consisted solely of fish, seal and whale blubber they were far healthier than today.
Click to expand...
I’ll leave you with the last word, since it appears you are not willing to seriously engage my comments at this time.
 
Michael_Mayo said:
In another thread

Maybe I empathize too much but when I see a peace of meat I cannot help but think of the animal alive. I do not judge others I just make my own choice.
Click to expand...
That’s funny. When I see a lamb, my mouth begins to water. I think of a crown rack grilled to perfection, with a little mint jelly on the side.
 
spencelo said:
I’ll leave you with the last word, since it appears you are not willing to seriously engage my comments at this time.
Click to expand...
If they were less specious I would take them more seriously, but you misrepresent what people say, and use poor evidence for your side, and resort to the kind of “so when did you stop beating your wife” kind of questions.

Furthermore, the Masai and the Inuit are anthropologically valid arguments for carnivorism.

Finally Tofu… if we were meant to be eating that it would taste good and be walking around on 4 legs.😛
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top