Free-range pigs -- not so happy

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some of us talk about a sympathetic sharing in the pain of others. I am one of them. I am also a vegetarian. Maybe I empathize too much but when I see a peace of meat I cannot help but think of the animal alive. I do not judge others I just make my own choice.
Me too. I have been a vegetarian for 20 years. I just cant bring myself to eat anything that once had a face and a heartbeat. I remember long ago eating a chicken leg, and thinking to myself “This was someone’s leg. There are veins and everything still on it.”

I became vegetarian after that. 🙂
 
I can relate…

After reading Lord of the and seeing how noble and magnificent the Ents were, and how they talk to trees and all green living things I can no longer stomach vegetables.:eek:

Thank God for meat!😃
 
I can relate…

After reading Lord of the and seeing how noble and magnificent the Ents were, and how they talk to trees and all green living things I can no longer stomach vegetables.:eek:

Thank God for meat!😃
This is not funny at all. Now my kid can claim that he is growing spiritually by avoiding broccoli. 😃
 
What about eating only roadkill? What about animals that die of natural causes? Who’s going to force the carnivores to adjust their diet? I mean, wrong is wrong, even if it’s evolution. Right?
Animal slaughter. That’s the key word. If an animal died through any of the means you listed, that’s not slaughter.
 
Well of course it’s unethical, have you seen how pig farmers treat and slaughter their pigs for food? :eek:

If it’s ethics you want why doesn’t this pig farmer find a painless way to kill an animal like how the Jews slaughter theirs, instead of just sending 150,000 volts to them with a rod until they die.
 
Well of course it’s unethical, have you seen how pig farmers treat and slaughter their pigs for food? :eek:

If it’s ethics you want why doesn’t this pig farmer find a painless way to kill an animal like how the Jews slaughter theirs, instead of just sending 150,000 volts to them with a rod until they die.
His point is that the practice is unethical even if pigs are killed painlessly.
 
His point is that the practice is unethical even if pigs are killed painlessly.
So What! He’s one pig farmer and it is only his opinion. Much like my opinion that animal activists are more concerned with the welfare of an animal than the welfare of a child.
 
What about eating only roadkill? What about animals that die of natural causes?
Other animal advocates will disagree, but I don’t see a problem with eating animals who died of natural causes.
 
So What! He’s one pig farmer and it is only his opinion. Much like my opinion that animal activists are more concerned with the welfare of an animal than the welfare of a child.
He isn’t the only farmer who feels this way, so maybe you should consider his perspective seriously.
 
Feral hogs don’t live so very well. They kill and eat each other if put to it. Wild canids and cougars will tear them to pieces and start eating them alive. I don’t think there’s anything in the “state of nature” to be envied by domestic animals.
 
Other animal advocates will disagree, but I don’t see a problem with eating animals who died of natural causes.
Domestic animals that die of natural causes usually shouldn’t be eaten at all.
 
Feral hogs don’t live so very well. They kill and eat each other if put to it. Wild canids and cougars will tear them to pieces and start eating them alive. I don’t think there’s anything in the “state of nature” to be envied by domestic animals.
Yes, it’s a brutal world out there in the animal world, but why is that relevant to the question of how we should treat animals? It appears you think we should look to animal behavior for moral guidance.
 
He isn’t the only farmer who feels this way, so maybe you should consider his perspective seriously.
Even if there are more farmers that feel this way, I’m sure it’s a vast minority. Maybe you should consider my perspective seriously. If not for deer meat my daughter would be dead.
 
Even if there are more farmers that feel this way, I’m sure it’s a vast minority. Maybe you should consider my perspective seriously. If not for deer meat my daughter would be dead.
First, I highly doubt your claim that deer meat was necessary to your daughter’s recovery. Second, even if it were true, that would only mean - at most - that eating deer was truly necessary for your daughter, which is very different than the situation of the vast majority of meat-eaters.
 
First, I highly doubt your claim that deer meat was necessary to your daughter’s recovery. Second, even if it were true, that would only mean - at most - that eating deer was truly necessary for your daughter, which is very different than the situation of the vast majority of meat-eaters.
So now I’m a liar. Since I’ve already explained her situation to you in another thread, I want to thank you for proving that you think animals are more deserving that humans. :dts:
 
So now I’m a liar. Since I’ve already explained her situation to you in another thread, I want to thank you for proving that you think animals are more deserving that humans. :dts:
I didn’t say or imply you are a liar. Did you even consider putting her on a vegetarian or vegan diet? Did you do any thorough research into the matter about that alternative? If not, then it may well be that you overlooked a possibility that did not involve deer killing.
 
Animal slaughter. That’s the key word. If an animal died through any of the means you listed, that’s not slaughter.
As an aside: what about the slaughter of the innocents in the womb? That is also done for profit, and for the sake of human convenience. Just talking about being consistent here.
 
Animals are not people. There is nothing wrong with eating them. In fact, God made St.Peter to know that there were no restrictions on the eating of animals. (Acts).

We should certainly not eat road-kill - you have no idea what has been introduced into the meat from how it got killed.

We should surely be most careful about eating any animal that died of natural causes - it could have been from some infectious or contagious disease that could make us very, very sick.

So - how do we get to eat meat? or fowl? or fish? shell fish? By hunting, fishing, etc., but, also from animal slaughter. After all, we can’t all be hunters or fishers. So, the slaughter should not be unnecessarily cruel and painful. But, these are not humans that are being killed, but creatures given to us by God for our food.

Most of us have no first-hand knowledge as to how any of the meat that gets to our butcher shops or supermarket stores gets killed. Yes, sometimes we read or hear about bad practices in specific abattoirs, but that should not drive any of us to refuse to eat meat.

I really do not understand anyone turning vegan - for any reason whatever! Neither do I understand those who will not eat meat willingly eat that soy stuff that pretends to taste like meat! It is disgusting! But that is just me. I’m an omnivore and really, really enjoy it!
 
I really do not understand anyone turning vegan - for any reason whatever! Neither do I understand those who will not eat meat willingly eat that soy stuff that pretends to taste like meat! It is disgusting! But that is just me. I’m an omnivore and really, really enjoy it!
(delicious vegan recipes) vegalicious.org/
 
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