The being sorry part is what the issue is. Many people are trying to tell them that they do not have to be sorry and that they should give in whenever they feel like. They need to be sorry and strive to live chastelyālike we all do.Whats the worry for the homosexuals, be gay, be sorry, live and forgive!
Because in order to be sorry one must have a firm conviction to not repeat the sin.
I do not know if it is sinfulā¦I used to believe the bibleās Lev 20 but i am starting to logically think for myself. I either need to be pulled back into christianity or given a shove out of theismā¦
We are fallable animalsā¦We are mamals who are not perfect and will at times be slaves to emotions/sex drives/irrational thingsā¦ This is what makes us human, not the ability to restrain ourselves. I have major problems with the bibleās belief in this subjectā¦Am i not christian if i disagree with some key issues such as these?
Wrong. We are called to not be slaves. That is what makes us human. The Truth will set you free my friend. Do not be a slave to your concupiscence. Slavery is an affront to human dignity.
your opinions are not facts
you are wrong not only in your moral theology but in your definition of a human being. You are certainly not a Christian if you deny the dignity of the human being with soul and intellect and free will that places him in an order of creation higher than the animals who act and react solely on instinct. If you wish to continue meaningful discussions on this forum may I suggest you leave of the habit of making untrue statements, then posing an argument based on knocking down or supporting that untrue statement. As of now, nothing you have posted is of any usefulness in an informed discussion, so I am out of here. In any case, this thread belongs on the morality forum, not apologetics.
Please do not cite Darwinism as evidenceā¦It goes against everything the bible tells usā¦Homosexuality is a natural result of Human reproductionā¦The chances that somebody is born as or to become a homosexual range from 3-10 percent depending on what source you trust. Either way, nature has gave homosexuals a way to reproduce, they just dont do itā¦Sexual relief? Sexual sensations? Oh boy! Sex is meant to pro-create and bond. Even nature itself shows us this. Homosexuality is even a flaw in nature (the survival of the fittest). Why does it always have to be about sex? Why not love? True love and starting a family. Not a fake shell apperance of looks.
What about people who are born with chemical inbalances that efecct and frustrate them to the point of them choosing evil? I can speak of this PERSONALY! Yet by following Godās ways and having faith, you would be surprised at easy it can be to reject sins.
I have heard of a case where one man lost his boyfriend from aids, he became depressed and began seeking God. Eventualy he converted to Catholicism, BUT he still had no attraction for women, just truly men, so he vowed to God to remain celibate.
The Catholic Church also offers classes and gives aid to homosexuals who believe they are suffering from phycological problems that cause them to be attracted to men and much help comes from this.
I would rather have a heart of compassion than the mind of a genuiess
God give you peace
If you were thinking logically, you would recognize that you are setting up a false dichotomy between faith and thinking for oneās self. One does not necessarily exclude the other.
The law of Leviticus does not apply because we are in the New Covenant, BUT the sodomy is still a sin, not primarly just because Leviticus says so (this is why you will see that goofy email about goats and stuff), but because it is disordered against Godās purposes. As the Church teaches, it is forgivable, and personal culpability is a factor, but there are also consequences for not availing yourself of that forgiveness.
You are a christian if you have been baptised in the Trinitarian forumla. You are a heritic if you are a christinan and refuse to belileve what you know the Church teaches.
Mary did and she was fully human.
****āThe way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason.ā
As was Jesus, fully human, fully God.Mary did and she was fully human.
Can you give citations? Where Mary or any other person did not relief themselves by giving into temptation wether it be getting up, having sex, eating pork, or murdering an enemyā¦Mary did and she was fully human.
Again, where does the bible say this? Please referenceā¦
OkeyDokei said:
Yes. Everyone struggles with temptation. But with the help of God, it CAN be resisted succesfully. Temptations are not sinful in and of themselves, acting on them is. Whether doing so warrants eternal punishment depends on the nature of the sin.
And if they are not? They are not christian, and not accepted into heaven?