Freemasonry Conspiracies

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OH, so now you are changing the criteria to asking people to join. I don’t know why this matters so much to you, but you believe what you want. The only one consistently flogging the same thought over and over, is you. Good luck.
 
Why would they care to join the church except to cause trouble. They are the brotherhood of the “great architect” aka Satan so unless they are dismayed with him and leave him why would they be interested in joining “the other side”? I am sure any Freemason who wants to leave his or her current master is more than welcome to join the church. After all, St. Cyprian used to be a witch too and then he changed his mind.
 
Augustinian said:
but it seems obvious that membership in the lodges has plummeted over the years.
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Cry me a river. My own opinion has been formed more by what they call “ring-knockers” looking after their own. Here, it one of the acceptable prejudices at work. Therefore, I turned it down cold when I was approached to join, and before I was Catholic.

The reason I interjected about “lying” earlier is that what constitutes an recruitment and what constitutes promotion can be fuzzy. As they become smaller, it may be what is allowable will change, or has changed, in different places.
 
How do they get anyone? My local GOP was infested with Masons and they did approach people.
 
My guess, most lower level Masons don’t know the truth. Once you get deeper into the society it becomes clearly luciferian.
 
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There was a billboard on Josephine St. here in Pittsburgh touting Masonic membership.
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Well if you see one, there are more…
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If that isn’t recruitment, I don’t know what is. They can’t share secrets under pain of death [according to their paperwork] so the only way to share the secret, is to become one.
 
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They can’t share secrets under pain of death
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There are hordes of former Masons who’ve written books and disclosed secrets. I think the shadow government has largely moved away from the Masons.
 
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There are hordes of former Masons who’ve written books and disclosed secrets. I think the shadow government has largely moved away from the Masons.
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Oh good. I send out an all clear for them!😀
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That’s not calling someone a liar and he seems to have said it without the intention to do so.
 
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No a catholic can’t become a freemason but 99% of freemason conspiracies are way off base. They are old man who meet in worn out bingo halls, have secret handshakes and do nothing else. It’s hardly as powerful as people think it is. It’s also dying off. In a few generations, it’s won’t exist.

Edit-they do have a few hospitals for children and burn victims, so they do more than exchange secret handshakes! Lol
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Please educate yourself on Freemasonry. It is an ancient cult that is in direct opposition to Christianity in general, and the Catholic Church in particular. It is rife with arcane symbolism, quasi-Satanic ritual and deliberate obfuscation for no reason other than confusion of its detractors. It is quite a serious and dangerous thing, far from the picture of harmless decrepitude that you paint.
 
Here in Argentina most of the presidents are/were freemason (except maybe Peron, and he also was allied to the masons at one point). Of course, there have been fantastic national heroes that, being freemasons, maintained their catholic beliefs (like San Martin, that prayed the Rosary with their soldiers everyday), but there have also been numerous ultra-secularist politicians between them (like Sarmiento). The point is, freemasonry was and is still powerful, so, while I don’t believe in the majority of conspiracy theories, freemasons are practically the real life equivalent of the Illuminati since French Revolution (yes I know Illuminati, were a real branch of german freemasons, I’m refering to the Conspiracy myth ones)
 
I have debated posting this for a few days now. Before my return to the Church, I was a mason. In my state in order to join the masons, you have to answer in the affirmative 3 questions: do you believe in God, do you believe in Jesus Christ the son of God, and do you believe in Jesus’ resurrection. In other words, to join them in Mississippi you have to be a Christian. The ritual is filled with Christian motifs. It is a club (mainly older men) and it is a brotherhood. They do not deny the existence of God, and in fact reinforce it.

I talked to my priest about why I had to resign prior to coming back to the church and he stated his issue with the masons is the fact that masons take an oath on the Bible to not reveal the secrets under pain of death. He stated that the oath is the issue, not that it denies God or anything.
 
I don’t read anything after someone says “educate yourself.”
 
ajg said:
I have debated posting this for a few days now. Before my return to the Church, I was a mason. In my state in order to join the masons, you have to answer in the affirmative 3 questions: do you believe in God, do you believe in Jesus Christ the son of God, and do you believe in Jesus’ resurrection. In other words, to join them in Mississippi you have to be a Christian. The ritual is filled with Christian motifs. It is a club (mainly older men) and it is a brotherhood. They do not deny the existence of God, and in fact reinforce it.

I talked to my priest about why I had to resign prior to coming back to the church and he stated his issue with the masons is the fact that masons take an oath on the Bible to not reveal the secrets under pain of death. He stated that the oath is the issue, not that it denies God or anything.
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That is so interesting. Nothing seems to make sense anymore. I knew a man quite well and he was very strong in the Masons and had travelled world wide within Masonic activity. He became a Christian in older age and joined a Baptist Church. He never gave up his Masonic association but he did admit to me that when he was in Europe he got into trouble for closing a prayer with the name of Jesus. He was instructed that he was free to address God but not Jesus in Masonic activities. I guess it is no surprise when even within our churches you get totally differing responses to the same question.
 
There are special branches of masonry (like the scottish rite, or the hispanic priorate) that have lodges of “chrisitian masonry” for the most devout members. This represents the most dangerous type of freemasonry for confused catholics that enter, as, while in this lodges they are much more friendly towards christians and incorporate some christian rites, they share the same heresies of naturalism, relativism and secularism/fraternal secrecy that share all the fremasonic lodges.
 
There have been accounts written by those who have converted to Catholicism after having been freemasons. One such tale was of a GM in a ‘lodge’ and he said that nominees had to answer questions in which whomever was joining were to state opposition to the Church and the core tenets of Catholic belief.

As far as I am aware, from having looked up the relevant Church documents, freemasonry, while not explicitly stated in later years as being an excommunicable offence, for those who join or remain, is implied, with the original excommunication not having been overridden.

One cannot be a freemason and an authentic Catholic witness, because freemasonry opposes the Church over her core beliefs, and over the centuries has promoted in society, anti-life agendas, and anti-God movements, too, such as Humanism.

The Bible states that people are not to have rituals. Freemasonry rituals constitute idol-worship.

Also, freemasonry encourages deceit, known by its secrecy and rules. And these secrets are protected to a dangerous level, whereby, anyone who shares certain secrets, or wishes to leave, will have pressure put on them (to put it mildly).

The organisation began in Europe, apparently, and was originally made up of stone masons, or so it is said. Maybe it is that they started out as a kind of workers union, and at some point became a place where people could solicit work and favours. Who knows and really, who cares, why. Catholicism is straightforward in the sense that we know when we are doing something against the faith. Maybe not everyone back in the Middle Ages, or whenever it was that freemasonry began, had available, printed Bibles, for them to read Scripture and see, quite obviously, that joining such an organisation was wrong.

Not a far cry from the Mafia - members of which, have been excommunicated - except possibly more dangerous, long-term, because of the secrecy and subtlety in which their aggressive agendas are slipped into society behind the scenes:

Likening freemasonry to a slithering snake does not make for a bad analogy.
 
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