Freemasons

[Sixtus]

Freemasons have been hoodwinked by the master deciever Lucifer.

It is ironic then that there are so many obnoxious Christians that I have known. I worked with a guy who used to abuse his power to commit the most terrible evils. Another guy, an interrogator who abused his power to torture when that was not in his remit. He was in church every week. Two catholics [albeit lapsed] who plotted the dismissal of a very caring, loving generous man because ‘his face did not fit’. Before he was dismissed [having been cruely set up to fail], he suffered a nervous breakdown at the hands of their cruelty. They were aided and abetted by a Baptist and an Anglican [all Christians]!!!

By contrast, ‘Lucifers children’ are very loving, imitating the love of Christ, are very benevolent, put the needs of others before themselves, go to the help of distressed people. Always putting their hands in their pockets to support good causes, believe in the message of St Augustine ‘love and do what you wil’!

I suspect there will be freemasons going into heaven ahead of a lot of Christians

 

[IHS]

It is ironic then that there are so many obnoxious Christians that I have known. I worked with a guy who used to abuse his power to commit the most terrible evils. Another guy, an interrogator who abused his power to torture when that was not in his remit. He was in church every week. Two catholics [albeit lapsed] who plotted the dismissal of a very caring, loving generous man because ‘his face did not fit’. Before he was dismissed [having been cruely set up to fail], he suffered a nervous breakdown at the hands of their cruelty. They were aided and abetted by a Baptist and an Anglican [all Christians]!!!

By contrast, ‘Lucifers children’ are very loving, imitating the love of Christ, are very benevolent, put the needs of others before themselves, go to the help of distressed people. Always putting their hands in their pockets to support good causes, believe in the message of St Augustine ‘love and do what you wil’!

I suspect there will be freemasons going into heaven ahead of a lot of Christians

You also have been decieved.You can only serve one God. You will love one and hate the other. There will be no freemasons in heaven.

 

[sandmountainsli]

You also have been decieved.You can only serve one God. You will love one and hate the other. There will be no freemasons in heaven.

I agree with this.
You cannot be both Christian and a member of another religion.
WP

 

[Damascus]

Dear Sixtus,

You are making a horrible jump here. They are verboten. That means that you dabbling in their midst even as a guest is simply not good form.

I am sorry to hear that you think its okay to hang out with the Masons.

Its not. You are placing yourself in a near occasion to sin.

Did you mean to say Knights of Columbus?

I really am sorry you had a bad experience with them but it does not justify your position to be attending Mason happenings.

I wish you took this a tad more seriously. Please re-read all the posts again and think this through.

I will pray that you will get guidance on this as soon as possible, even if you must talk this over with your Priest. You are flirting with danger here.

Godspeed and Prayers!

Freemasonry is NOT a secret society. Go on the net and information is freely available.

Anyone is eligible for membership providing they are not aethiest.

There are no susperstitions or magic handshakes. That is prejudice borne out of ignorance.

It is no more a religion than the local cricket or bowles club. They do not ‘teach religion’, but they DO sing Christian hymns and the National Anthem. They also do an absolutely excellent 3-course dinner [at the end of every meeting] which ALWAYS starts with ‘grace’ and ends with thanking God for what they have received.

The ‘Ritual’ is no more ritualistic than any other organisational meeting. It is simply a ‘lads’ club for the men and a ‘ladies’ club for the women. There are ‘ladies nights’ no different to 'dining in nights in a military establishment.

I used to be in the Knights of St Columba. After a very busy day, the last thing I wanted was to go to meetings where folk abused and shouted at each other. I was not happy at how they intimidated parishioners [particularly targetting the poorer and more vulnerable ones] to be cajoled into buying raffle tickets etc.

My brother is a freemason. I often accompany him to various functions. I have read the ‘rites of the ritual’. It is actually very similar to that which we do in the Ancient Order of Druids, which is NOT freemasonry. The men are ALWAYS VERY POLITE, COURTIOUS and CIVIL to each other and guests. I have ALWAYS been made to feel very welcome.

The KSC has a long way to go before it is worthy to be on an equal footing with Freemasonry

 

[Damascus]

I agree with this.
You cannot be both Christian and a member of another religion.
WP

I agree with this as well.

Now, for the sake of argument lets pretend its not a religion.

It does not matter. As a Catholic we are not to be associated with it. Period.

Valke2 can do whatever Valke2 wants. And his friend has bigger problems than this if you knew a bit more about his personal affairs that Valke disclosed in the other thread.
he has put himself above the Church and his own family.
He is reprehensible.

 

[Sixtus]

You also have been decieved.You can only serve one God. You will love one and hate the other. There will be no freemasons in heaven.

You cannot believe in God and be the member of another religion

Tell me where in the bible it says 'you cannot belong to a cricket club?

What was your experience when you went to a freemason event?

What was your impression of the people you met there?

How did they compare with the folk you work with?

How generous were they relative to you?

I suggest that anyone who cannot answer at least some of the above questions are small minded little people who are bigotted, prejudiced and fearful of what they do not understand.

If you do not understand something the best solution is to adopt a bigotted attitude and 'go with the flow of popular witch-hunting. In England we used to burn witches, not because they were bad but because they were easy prey. It was easy really, all you have to do is be un-Christian and be fuelled by malic afore thought for that which you do not understand.

You do not know what goes on in freemasonry so how can you possibly make informed judgments based on fact/ Your opinions are based on the propaganda and bigotry that you have read. Is that any basis for making rational judgments.

So, American baseball is a religion is it? What are the prayers? What God do they worship? I know nothing about Amirican baseball. I cannot make any rational decision based on certain knowledge. Therefore, I conclude it is evil, inspired by the devil, is devil worship, is a false religion, you cannot serve more than one God. The god of American baseball is evil. I am able to say that because I know nothing about American baseball and that qualifies me to condemn, prejudice and hate.

Thank God I do not possess some of the logic above.

 

[Damascus]

Since when did a Catholic use Sola Scriptura as the tell all end all?

You are suffering from a case of Protestant folly here.

**Tell me where in the bible it says **'you cannot belong to a cricket club?

What was your experience when you went to a freemason event?

What was your impression of the people you met there?

How did they compare with the folk you work with?

How generous were they relative to you?

I suggest that anyone who cannot answer at least some of the above questions are small minded little people who are bigotted, prejudiced and fearful of what they do not understand.

If you do not understand something the best solution is to adopt a bigotted attitude and 'go with the flow of popular witch-hunting. In England we used to burn witches, not because they were bad but because they were easy prey. It was easy really, all you have to do is be un-Christian and be fuelled by malic afore thought for that which you do not understand.

You do not know what goes on in freemasonry so how can you possibly make informed judgments based on fact/ Your opinions are based on the propaganda and bigotry that you have read. Is that any basis for making rational judgments.

So, American baseball is a religion is it? What are the prayers? What God do they worship? I know nothing about Amirican baseball. I cannot make any rational decision based on certain knowledge. Therefore, I conclude it is evil, inspired by the devil, is devil worship, is a false religion, you cannot serve more than one God. The god of American baseball is evil. I am able to say that because I know nothing about American baseball and that qualifies me to condemn, prejudice and hate.

Thank God I do not possess some of the logic above.

 

[sandmountainsli]

Look.
Freemasonry IS a religion seperate from Christianity.
SO MOTE IT BE.
WP

 

[sandmountainsli]

Look.
Freemasonry IS a religion seperate from Christianity. Not a “club”.
SO MOTE IT BE.
WP

 

[Sixtus]

What about the Ancient Order of Druids? The Ancient Order of Buffaloes? The Ancient Order of Foresters? The Royal National Lifeboat Institution? Are they evil too?

Chances are you know nothing about them. Therefore, one may conclude they too are evil inspired organisations and alternative religions.

Given my strong defence of all things Christendom, I have been invited to be initiated into the Knights Templar. It is something I am currently thinking about. Above all, I remain a devout and committed Catholic.

 

[Damascus]

What about the Ancient Order of Druids? The Ancient Order of Buffaloes? The Ancient Order of Foresters? The Royal National Lifeboat Institution? Are they evil too?

Chances are you know nothing about them. Therefore, one may conclude they too are evil inspired organisations and alternative religions.

Given my strong defence of all things Christendom, I have been invited to be initiated into the Knights Templar. It is something I am currently thinking about. Above all, I remain a devout and committed Catholic.

I think not. You think so. Ask the Knights Templar if they like this.

You wont like the answer I will bet.

 

[IHS]

QUOTE=Sixtus;
You do not know what goes on in freemasonry so how can you possibly make informed judgments based on fact/ Your opinions are based on the propaganda and bigotry that you have read. Is that any basis for making rational judgments.=========================Sixtus,You need to do an indepth study on freemasonry. There are many smoke screens that will prevent you from seeing the truth.

 

[sandmountainsli]

Damascus:
I think not. You think so. Ask the Knights Templar if they like this.

You wont like the answer I will bet.
Damascus,
This Methodist agrees with the Catholics on this one.
Apparently Sixtus hasn’t heard of the Baphomet or the Legend of Hirim Abiff or the Isis and Osiris connections to Freemasonry.
Why do you think Philip Le Bon put the torch to the original Templars? It wasn’t greed, I can tell you that.
WP

 

[Sixtus]

You need to do an indepth study on freemasonry. There are many smoke screens that will prevent you from seeing the truth

An organisation which demands of its members that they must not only believe in God but must be committed Chritians, must profess faith and belief in the most Holy Trinity, must undertake corporal works of mercy. Must love their fellow man as much as they love themselves. Must act in the defence of Christianity, even to martyrdom if called upon to do so.

That is an organisation about which I do not believe for one minute that there is a smoke screen preventing me from seeing the truth

I go proudly and fearlessly in the name of Christ

 

[sandmountainsli]

An organisation which demands of its members that they must not only believe in God but must be committed Chritians, must profess faith and belief in the most Holy Trinity,

NO NO NO,
Sixtus, my friend you have been lied to!
A belief in ANY diety is all the Freemasons require and they even have lodges for Islamic members
I will try to find a link to help you understand.
WP

 

[sandmountainsli]

NO NO NO,
Sixtus, my friend you have been lied to!
A belief in ANY diety is all the Freemasons require and they even have lodges for Islamic members
I will try to find a link to help you understand.
WP

Here
web.ncf.ca/aj624/mason.html
PLEASE read this link.
WP

 

[Sixtus]

An organisation which demands committed Chritians who profess faith and belief in the most Holy Trinit. Must act in the defence of Christianity, even to martyrdom if called upon to do so

Such an organisation can only be inspired by lucifer.

That is what a correspondent said above. I wonder what our Blessed Lord would say!!!

What about any church then? Are they too so inspired as they do require members to be committed Christians also!!

 

[Damascus]

An organisation which demands of its members that they must not only believe in God but must be committed Chritians, must profess faith and belief in the most Holy Trinity, must undertake corporal works of mercy. Must love their fellow man as much as they love themselves. Must act in the defence of Christianity, even to martyrdom if called upon to do so.

That is an organisation about which I do not believe for one minute that there is a smoke screen preventing me from seeing the truth

I go proudly and fearlessly in the name of Christ

Then you go. You cant defy the Church knowingly. If you do defy the Church with knowledge and arrogant defiance you will not have Christ behind you.

 

[Pagliacci]

hmm…am I the only one who gets a mental image of a bunch of men with Fezes sitting around a round table plotting world domination when I hear the word ‘Freemasons’

 

[Damascus]

An organisation which demands committed Chritians who profess faith and belief in the most Holy Trinit. Must act in the defence of Christianity, even to martyrdom if called upon to do so

Such an organisation can only be inspired by lucifer.

That is what a correspondent said above. I wonder what our Blessed Lord would say!!!

What about any church then? Are they too so inspired as they do require members to be committed Christians also!!

What are you saying here?

You must renounce this passion to spit on the Bride of Christ this way.

I am repulsed.

I will pray harder for you Sixtus. You are frieghtening. You wont listen to the Church, so good luck with that and have your silly fun dabbling with Masons.

Nice knowing you.

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