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Today’s Gospel inspired me to ask this question to the open forum. I have been trying to get our local Priest to enforce the Canon Law Declaration concerning Catholics joining the freemasons signed by Cardinal Ratzinger in 1983 and have been unsucessful. Is there someone in the church I can inform to enforce this critical Declaration. It states clearly that the soul is in grave sin and can not receive the Eucharist.

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do you mean your priest is a mason? or do you mean that you believe a member of your parish is a mason yet is receiving communion from your priest? If it is the latter, you have no information or opinion on the state of his soul, that judgement is reserved for the priest in confession and you have no right or reason to tell the priest what to do about the case. if the former, inform the bishop, but be very very sure of your facts.
 
AS Catholics it is our responsibility to inform the priest and he is to quietly tell the Catholic that is Freemason he is in grave sin and can not receive the Eucharist. AS stated by Canon Law. You are correct…God will judge the soul…but it is our responsibility as Catholics to bring the soul to salvation. And evangalize the truth.
 
Don’t know where the OP is, but the Grand High Whozit of the local masonic group is an active member of our parish, and has recruited several other Catholics. This is well known in the community, and the bishop has been contacted. Nothing has changed.
 
dsimo said:
AS Catholics it is our responsibility to inform the priest and he is to quietly tell the Catholic that is Freemason he is in grave sin and can not receive the Eucharist. AS stated by Canon Law. You are correct…God will judge the soul…but it is our responsibility as Catholics to bring the soul to salvation. And evangalize the truth.
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While your at it…how about the Catholics that go to Starbucks, Wal-Mart and shop at stores listed as no-no’s on the LDI list? Oh, let’s not forget books…it is our responsibility as Catholics to do this.

Is there something better you can be doing with your time besides spying on your fellow parishoners? This is really extreme.
 
Julianna said:
While your at it…how about the Catholics that go to Starbucks, Wal-Mart and shop at stores listed as no-no’s on the LDI list? Oh, let’s not forget books…it is our responsibility as Catholics to do this.

Is there something better you can be doing with your time besides spying on your fellow parishoners? This is really extreme.
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Don’t the FreeMasons do a lot of charity work?
What’s so bad about a group of men getting together to do good? Maybe the OP should start a Knights of Columbus if he’s worried about the soul of his fellow parishoner.
 
Karianne said:
Don’t the FreeMasons do a lot of charity work?
What’s so bad about a group of men getting together to do good? Maybe the OP should start a Knights of Columbus if he’s worried about the soul of his fellow parishoner.
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The Freemasons are evil and incompatible with the Catholic Faith (and Christianity in general). You cannot be a Catholic and a Freemason. If you are then you are subject to ex-communication.
 
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If you are then you are subject to ex-communication.
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Nah, the specific reference to excommunication is gone from the 1983 Code of Canon Law.

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Julianna said:
While your at it…how about the Catholics that go to Starbucks, Wal-Mart and shop at stores listed as no-no’s on the LDI list? Oh, let’s not forget books…it is our responsibility as Catholics to do this.

Is there something better you can be doing with your time besides spying on your fellow parishoners? This is really extreme.
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Hi Julianna

No there is nothing better I can do…Keep in mind I didn’t search this out…when someone goes to Mass with the Masonic emblem on their license plate and rubs it into you face when they are an usher in a Catholic church…than it becomes my duty to inform the Parish Priest. Why do you go to church Julianna?
 
mystified said:
Don’t know where the OP is, but the Grand High Whozit of the local masonic group is an active member of our parish, and has recruited several other Catholics. This is well known in the community, and the bishop has been contacted. Nothing has changed.
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Karianne said:
Don’t the FreeMasons do a lot of charity work?
What’s so bad about a group of men getting together to do good? Maybe the OP should start a Knights of Columbus if he’s worried about the soul of his fellow parishoner.
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Hi Karianne

Yes they do alot of charity work…By the way I am a member o the Knights of Columbus. Why don’t you read Canon Law signed by our Pope Benedict XVI…If you want to follow the Masonic movement…you may want to know to just donate to the fire victims…I guess it’s not important to you…that fellow Catholics who join the Freemasons are in grave sin and can not receive the Eucharist…Your in my prayers.
 
dsimo said:
Hi Julianna

No there is nothing better I can do…Keep in mind I didn’t search this out…when someone goes to Mass with the Masonic emblem on their license plate and rubs it into you face when they are an usher in a Catholic church…than it becomes my duty to inform the Parish Priest. Why do you go to church Julianna?
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I don’t go to or check out the license tags in the parking lot. You and John Ashcroft have a lot in common. Maybe the your parish has it’s own Patriot Act going on. I totally disagree with on this. It is very radical to spy on people and report them to priest, like a tattletail. I agree that there are a few ushers and Eucharistic ministers who they are someone special…not all, but some. So what? I’m not there to watch people get puffed up. Are you?
 
Did you know Priests serve the Bishop? Almost all authority the Priest has is delegation from the Bishop, very little of the Priest’s authority is independent of the Bishop’s grant. Also though occasionally a local business manager may have gained power the Priest is the highest local authority ( based on the Bishop’s grants). So it is time to write the Diocese.
 
Priests have to be careful of crossing the Masons. I believe it was Fr. Corapi who told about a good priest who sought to enlighten his parishioners about Church teaching regarding membership in the Masons. In very short order, he had anonymous accusations of molestation lodged against him.

Masons are not just a collection of do-gooders.
 
hi dsimo,

may i suggest to you that you read HH Pope Leo XIII’s booklet, Humanum Genus on Freemasonry? it is an excellent read, and explains the dangers of freemasonry in the church.
 
quasimodo said:
Priests have to be careful of crossing the Masons. I believe it was Fr. Corapi who told about a good priest who sought to enlighten his parishioners about Church teaching regarding membership in the Masons. In very short order, he had anonymous accusations of molestation lodged against him.

Masons are not just a collection of do-gooders.
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Paranoia, reigns supreme.
 
Julianna said:
I don’t go to or check out the license tags in the parking lot. You and John Ashcroft have a lot in common. Maybe the your parish has it’s own Patriot Act going on. I totally disagree with on this. It is very radical to spy on people and report them to priest, like a tattletail. I agree that there are a few ushers and Eucharistic ministers who they are someone special…not all, but some. So what? I’m not there to watch people get puffed up. Are you?
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Julianna, the people who are posting negatively about the masons are only relaying church teaching about freemasonry and the sin that is attached to a catholic who is a member. A sin so grave, by the way, that one should not recieve the Eucharist while a member. This is not personal opinion this is the teaching of the church.

Two of the spiritual works of mercy are to counsel the doubtful and instruct the ignorant. One of the duties of a priest is to shepard his flock, to give them the spiritual guidance necessary for salvation. Instructing them on mortal sin and reception of the Eurcharist is definately within the realm of pastoral duty.

And as far as the faithful who worry about such things, they are not “tattletails” or “spies”. Anyone who truely loves their neighbor cares most of all about the condition of their souls. To love, truely love someone is to give them charity and the spiritual direction they need to find salvation.

One of the Charisms of the church is the power to express knowledge. The Catholic Encyclopedia says “This grace enables a preacher or teacher to impart knowledge of sacred truth with exactitude and clarity. St. Augustine stated that this charism pertains expecially to the explanation of morality and good works. The charism of knowledge is similar to the gift of the Holy Spirit that has the same name, because they both have to do with imparting a knowledge of sacred truth and Divine Revelation. The difference lies in the fact that the gift of knowledge benefits the person who have the gift, while the charism is for the instruction of others.”

If done in charity, it is the duty of all catholics to evagelize, this means to instruct those outside the church and to reinstruct those in the church who are in need of spiritual guidance.
 
Please to not speak for me Julianna is correct. The comment was “and rubs it into you face when they are an usher in a Catholic church…” (Post #10) And the letter to the diocese should be specific in the details. The member has a right to be free of the Freemason’s religion while practicing Catholism.
 
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