FSSP

[YoungTradCath]

I was actually going to post on this a few mintues ago but did not want to seem uncharitable or that I was posting just to be contrarian.

Deo makes a good point though…

It is the Bishop’s decision as to where the FSSP goes and St. Francis de Sales (FFSP) in Mableton, Georgia is in a converted Baptist Church. It’s basically a steel building to which a suitable altar, communion rail, and the requisite statues and pews have been added. It has been beautified to the extent that a steel box is able to be beautified but the architecture isn’t exactly traditional.

-Tim-

I can’t speak for the other, but the church architecture is not always traditional for where the FSSP offer Mass. While the parish I attend is not hideously modern, it’s definitely not traditional. Where the FSSP offer Mass is either wherever the Bishop assigns them, or wherever a Latin Mass community exists.

I meant when they build or majorly renovate a church for themselves, they always go for the traditional look. They certainly do offer masses in modernistic buildings, but these are never constructed by them. They are existing structures. But as far as I know, the FSSP and ICKSP haven’t built many new churches.

I am familiar with the converted Baptist church (I find this sublimely ironic!) in GA. It isn’t the most beautiful by any means, but they have done a good job, as you say, of beautifying it as much as a steel box can be beautified.

 

[YoungTradCath]

Correct. I was going to say “orders” but I was afraid someone would jump on me for that.

Technically the SJC serve in EF/OF parishes (two I think) and say the EF, English and Spanish OF.

I dunno. From their website, all I see is EF, Latin OF, and English OF.

 

[ProVobis]

I dunno. From their website, all I see is EF, Latin OF, and English OF.

They also run the St. Peter’s parish in Volo.

stpetervolo.org/schedule.html

stpetervolo.org/

 

[w_s_s]

I was actually going to post on this a few mintues ago but did not want to seem uncharitable or that I was posting just to be contrarian.

Deo makes a good point though…

It is the Bishop’s decision as to where the FSSP goes and St. Francis de Sales (FFSP) in Mableton, Georgia is in a converted Baptist Church. It’s basically a steel building to which a suitable altar, communion rail, and the requisite statues and pews have been added. It has been beautified to the extent that a steel box is able to be beautified but the architecture isn’t exactly traditional.

Interesting example. Here’s the exterior, from the diocesan website:

http://www.archatl.com/media/common/images/parishes/latin01.jpg

and here’s the interior:

http://www.francisdesales.com/new-construction/images/sanctuary2.jpg

Doesn’t look much like a baptist church on the inside anymore…

 

[Mrs_Sally]

That’s what I was thinking; Arlington has MANY TLM’s, praise God! ecclesiadei.org/masses.cfm#Virginia

The FSSP tends to enter dioceses (from what I know) to serve groups of traditionalists without the old Mass and Sacraments or to dioceses with SSPX/sede chapels. There are a lot of traditional Latin Masses in the D.C. area, and the priests for the most part are well formed and more traditional (courtesy of Mt. St. Mary’s), so the D.C. area probably is not on FSSP’s priority mission list. This is probably why they are not in Chicago or NYC either.

Arlington also does not have a vocations crises. We have a full seminary and most parishes are not struggling, I’m not sure if Bishop Loverde has a particular reason to ask for FSSP priests. The Archdiocese of Washington may have more need for priests, but sections of it in MD are not particularly traditional - not wildly hetrodox at all though - but I don’t know what the demand would be for TLMs. Cardinal Wuerl has his hands full though! Please pray for him and for Bishop Loverde.

 

[HonoraDominum]

Our FSSP parish was a “Latin Mass Community” served by the FSSP for almost 20 years before we got our own parish. We met in a small chapel in a Carmelite convent for cloistered nuns. A couple of years ago, the bishop gave the group permission to buy their own building, and found an old Korean Methodist church. Here’s a before (after pews ripped out but before major overhaul):



And here’s after the renovation:

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Not much can be done about the blah outside, however:

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[YoungTradCath]

Our FSSP parish was a “Latin Mass Community” served by the FSSP for almost 20 years before we got our own parish. We met in a small chapel in a Carmelite convent for cloistered nuns. A couple of years ago, the bishop gave the group permission to buy their own building, and found an old Korean Methodist church. Here’s a before (after pews ripped out but before major overhaul)

Start a capital campaign!

 

[Deo_Gratias42]

Not much can be done about the blah outside, however:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAeI/z0FRjKyIWLA/w392-h294-k/ChurchPhoto.jpg

It reminds me of an LDS meeting house. If the steeple didn’t have a cross on top, I’d say it was.

 

[HonoraDominum]

It reminds me of an LDS meeting house. If the steeple didn’t have a cross on top, I’d say it was.

As an ex-Mormon, I’m going to have to agree with you there. My husband finds it odd that I can spot a Mormon church long before we’re close enough to read the sign at the front. Here’s a couple of examples of that same design.

http://www.datumconstruction.com/assets/images/projects/churches/ldsstake.jpg

http://oremfamilyhistoryfair.com/Images/StonewoodStakeCenter.jpg

 

[Mrs_Sally]

As an ex-Mormon, I’m going to have to agree with you there. My husband finds it odd that I can spot a Mormon church long before we’re close enough to read the sign at the front.

One thing I’ve noticed about Mormon churches is that they are often not square to the lot - so that as you drive up a curve, it feels as if you will drive right in. But if you park and walk up, you have to walk around the side of the church.

Is there an actual plan for that? Or have the Mormon churches around here just bought weird lots?

 

[Deo_Gratias42]

As an ex-Mormon, I’m going to have to agree with you there. My husband finds it odd that I can spot a Mormon church long before we’re close enough to read the sign at the front. Here’s a couple of examples of that same design.

http://www.datumconstruction.com/assets/images/projects/churches/ldsstake.jpg

http://oremfamilyhistoryfair.com/Images/StonewoodStakeCenter.jpg

Having lived in the Mormon capital of Canada, I too can spot them from a very far distance, even the old buildings.

 

[TrueLight]

I just came to say God bless the FSSP!

 

[HonoraDominum]

One thing I’ve noticed about Mormon churches is that they are often not square to the lot - so that as you drive up a curve, it feels as if you will drive right in. But if you park and walk up, you have to walk around the side of the church.

Is there an actual plan for that? Or have the Mormon churches around here just bought weird lots?

From what I’ve seen, LDS architecture tends to be similar no matter where you go in the country. It works for both temples and regular meeting houses. As best as I can figure, they have a certain few architectural plans (ward houses, larger stake houses, etc), and an idea of where they want to build the church. When they buy the land that they want to use for the church, I imagine they just find a way to get their existing plans to fit the land that has been purchased. Hence the weird parking lots.

But then again, you may be used to the “front” doors of the Catholic church, which face the street and lead directly to the back of the church and the sanctuary. Yeah, you’re never going to find that at a Mormon church. The Mormon “chapel” always has doors in the back, and most Stake centers allow the chapel to be opened up via sliding partitions to the basketball court-centric “Cultural Hall”, which is packed to the gills with folding chairs at Stake Conference.

Also, God bless the FSSP.

 

[MissRose73]

I just wish I did not have to travel long distances to assist at the EF Mass. I do pray that my diocese will welcome a society like the FSSP or another similar for the EF Mass as I believe there are some people in my area that would welcome it, and I know I am one of them. I’ve read the FSSP site, and like what they do in regards this beautiful EF Mass.

 

[Deo_Gratias42]

I just wish I did not have to travel long distances to assist at the EF Mass. I do pray that my diocese will welcome a society like the FSSP or another similar for the EF Mass as I believe there are some people in my area that would welcome it, and I know I am one of them. I’ve read the FSSP site, and like what they do in regards this beautiful EF Mass.

I didn’t like driving super far either, so I just moved to the city. Things are falling into place for me, so this must be some sort of grace that i should grab on to.

 

[BertBlyleven]

I just wish I did not have to travel long distances to assist at the EF Mass. I do pray that my diocese will welcome a society like the FSSP or another similar for the EF Mass as I believe there are some people in my area that would welcome it, and I know I am one of them. I’ve read the FSSP site, and like what they do in regards this beautiful EF Mass.

The priest that says the EF in my area drives 2.5 hours to…they’re suffering with us!