Full-Time Motherhood? How Selfish

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This article reminds me of a seminar I took when I was still in the working world. We were discussing Flexible Work Arrangements (FWA) and some ladies from the east coast were in KCMO to explain to us the best way to implement FWAs into our deadline-oriented work environment. One of the ladies was saying how important flexibility is because without it many women will leave. She said (I kid you not) “I have come into contact with many women of my age and younger who are actually leaving the workforce to stay home with their children because they don’t feel like they have enough time with them. I mean, these are Ivy-league educated women! Can you believe it?” I had to keep from laughing then. Thankfully, there is no such requirement in my current work environment. 😃
 
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MooCowSteph:
How many of them would love to stay home with their children and be the primary caregiver
A recent survey of college women showed that 60% want to stop working or cut back on work when they have children. In my view, those 60% are women who know themselves. That doesn’t account for many in that 40% who think they want to be career women but will find out that staying home with the kids is more attractive after their first child.

I’ve never met a woman who wanted to go back to work after she had a child. In fact, the women I know have all cried on their first day back at work at the thought of leaving their babies.

The young woman who wrote this article is in the minority of women. For some reason we have been fooled into thinking her’s is the predominate view of women. It isn’t.
 
some things never change, the whole women’s lib thing, before it got hijacked by the ERA/radaborts/lesbian rights gals was about choice, choice of job opportunities with equal pay for equal work, choice about college options and programs, choice about professions, choice about stay-at-home or work. Now that choice has become a fightin’ word a choice that is not PC is going to generate shrill rhetoric from gals who will never be happy until everyone else is as miserable as they are.

I have been called a parasite on society when I have been home raising babies, and a child abuser when I went to work and put kids in day care. You can’t win either way, so my advice is just to ignore the ignorant and do what is best for you and your family–and try to resist the temptation to convince others they should make the same choices you did.
 
I actually can’t take the 20 yr. old that has never held her own baby seriously. I want to, but her life experience handicaps her. She will actually laugh at her foolish notions some day. Or, maybe she will take after Maureen Dowd of the New York Times. Whatever happens, she will change and grow and learn.

At 22 I held my first job out of college. I had a degree in Early Childhood and I landed a job at a day care center. I was the early person and the late person (split shift). I earned poor pay, but I learned a very valuable lesson.

I held those 3yr. olds as they cried after their moms that left them. I calmed down those little ones that were so angry at their parents that they would kick, bite, or scratch them when they returned to pick them up. I also viewed divorced parents that would drop their child off on Friday with a suitcase, and then the other parent would pick them up for the weekend. I was working one such Friday, when no one came to pick up a little girl. She was scared, tired, and hungry. I was the only adult there. I called my boss who then spent the next two hours on the phone trying to locate a family member to pick up the child. I found some mac and cheese and made her dinner and tried to act like we were having fun waiting. She was so scared. Even all that did not convice me that I would be the one that would raise my own kids. It was when some of the kids would call me mom and sit on my lap to be read to at nap time. As I put them on their cots, I knew I never wanted that confusion for my own.

I was fortunate to have a husband that earned enough for us to ge by when my kids were young. I also sacrificed. I didn’t buy a colored TV until my oldest was about 7yrs. old. I waited a few more years before buying a VCR. We had one car, and I walked to the grocery store when my husband was at work, and I took all the kids with me. I could go on, and on, but you get the point.

This young lady will surprise herself when a helpless young baby that is her flesh and blood is crying in her arms and will only find comfort with her. She will learn. Of that, I am sure.

One other point. I have had a very long career of teaching since my children grew up. If you start back to work after your kids are all in school, you can still squeeze in 25 yrs of teaching or nursing or whatever you choose. Will you be a CEO of a large company, probably not. But you will use whatever degree you earned before marriage.
 
Heather07,

I wish I had your insight when I was 19! You are going to be a great mother someday! 🙂
Blessings to you,
CM
 
That article was just ridiculous. Granted, I don’t have a degree from an Ivy League School but I am college educated and I always knew that I would stay home and raise my own children.

Wouldn’t it be more selfish of me to work even though I don’t need to financially? My older children stuck in after care and my younger one in day care all day long just so I could afford a bigger house and an huge SUV? What is the point of that?

The other night in my RCIA class we were asked what we thought caused so much sin in the world. I suppose the obvious answer is free-will but my answer was selfishness. Things have become more important than people IMO.

The child who wrote this article has no clue what selfishness really is.
 
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gardenswithkids:
Umm, excuse me while I put down my bon-bons so I can type.

No, I’m not the least bit riled. I think it’s funny. Let the feminists explain how women should have the right to choose only as long as we choose what they want us to choose. The poor, misguided 20 year old author of that article. She’s obviously so indocrinated that she actually believes she’s too intelligent to sing the ABC’s.
Well said! I was wondering if anyone noticed the age of the author. I have to wonder if she’ll turn around when she hits…well…about 28 or so, and realizes how far up her rear end her head happened to be at the time she wrote this article.

Of course, I’m not really sure that someone can actually write with their heads in that position, so that may explain the content and opinion expressed somewhat.

On one hand she is saying that women who chose to be mothers denigrate the feminist movements of the 70’s (the fashion-challenged age…ugh!).

{Just as an aside, I have to say that anyone who dressed as they did and though it “tasteful” cannot be trusted. Fashion really explains a lot about culture. Look at our own. Now, back to the program…}

On the other hand she’s ticked off because women ARE choosing, and they are choosing the side of the most power…to be mothers.

Did you catch the end of the article where she discusses positions of power? What more influence do you want in a powerful woman than to rear her children…who will go on to influence culture with their participation. My goodness, women PRODUCE AND REPRODUCE little DNA “copies” of themselves, and if they do it right, they can more than TRIPLE their power just through progeny and correct upbringing alone!

But she’s only 20. We should cut her some slack. I did a lot of dumb things when I was 20, too. (My goodness, I do a lot of dumb things now and I’m 11 years older than she is)

Don’t take her too seriously. But let’s not let her get away with it either. I think I’ll just shoot an e-mail to the link provided and make a kind suggestion that she needs to grow up a bit before she calls motherhood “selfish”.
 
Our Blessed Mother was a stay at home Mom-what an inspiration!!! :angel1:
 
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puzzleannie:
some things never change, the whole women’s lib thing, before it got hijacked by the ERA/radaborts/lesbian rights gals was about choice, choice of job opportunities with equal pay for equal work, choice about college options and programs, choice about professions, choice about stay-at-home or work. Now that choice has become a fightin’ word a choice that is not PC is going to generate shrill rhetoric from gals who will never be happy until everyone else is as miserable as they are.

I have been called a parasite on society when I have been home raising babies, and a child abuser when I went to work and put kids in day care. You can’t win either way, so my advice is just to ignore the ignorant and do what is best for you and your family–and try to resist the temptation to convince others they should make the same choices you did.
puzzleannie, your post made me cry, and so did yours, fitz.

I am single, no kids. One could argue that these feminists have influenced my life, and so they have. After all…I’m stil single. I put my career first and I didn’t want kids. (Now, after a couple of baby dreams, I’m beginning to wonder if I’m supposed to be a Mom and not a nun).

Anyway, I have done extensive work with kids…first in day care for school age children, and next in kids with major mental health problems.

In the child care position, I remember pulling a bully of a kid aside after he nearly brained several others with a bat he was desperately swinging around him. I saw his mother come to pick him up and she was never nice to him. Let’s call him Adam. I pulled Adam aside and as I had no training (I was only about 16 or 17), I put him in a type of basket hold just to contain his behavior and we went to an unused room. I held on to him until he quit fighting and I explained to him patiently that he was not going to be exposed to other children until he calmed down.

He did. This child was MEAN and he was aloof and we kind of despaired of him…but at the same time, our hearts broke. And one day I felt someone grabibng my hand. When I looked down some time later and realized it was Adam I nearly fell over. This child needed love…and I think I might have been the first person to respond to him with love instead of screaming discipline. Or whatever “Mom” provided.

In the psych hosp, I worked with a couple children, both born of 2 successful psychologists…both completely institutionalized by the time they were 14. Both parents worked…neither could be bothered to stay home and raise their children. Granted, both had illness beyond control of genetics, but I refuse to believe that that family could not have existed without 2 incomes… either Mom or Dad could have stayed home and applied their specialized education to their own children rather than someone else’s.

THAT, my friends, is selfishness.

Both of those children, by the way, put me on light duty due to injury from their assaults. It should have been their parents.

Now when I deal with customers in my job, in which I have to ask for employment info and wages, the women I speak to often are hesitant to reveal that they do not have their own income. Society has made them ashamed. I am always quick to say that they have the more difficult job…you’d be amazed at how that affects rapport. Especially because I mean it.

Many times they take this to mean that I have my own children. Nope. I just used to get paid to raise the children of the parents who didn’t want to deal with them on their own.

How sad. How very very sad that now this GIRL has the gall to call motherhood “selfish”. (I was 20 when I was first injured by a violent 14 yr old boy “raised” by psychologists). She has a lot to learn.

God bless you all who stay at home wiht your children. There is a special place in Heaven for you.
 
Heart Of Mary:
If she thinks she is old enough, educated enough and smart enough to publish such utter nonsense, then no slack need be cut. She should be able to “suffer the consequences” of her actions.:yup:

BTW - no more honorable position can a woman hold than that of mother - God bless them all!:clapping:

KB
Hey, hey, let’s not knock the youth. There are a lot of foolish old people too :p.

And I guess I am one of those “selfish women” who wants to be a SAHM. I look at my mom and I realize that I can never repay her for the amount of time and sacrifice she invested in me. While she was hardly “elitist”, my Pappy drove a trolley, she was valedictorian of her college class and gave up a multi-million dollar company to have me, as I’m the oldest.

I am going to be an officer in the Navy. I would love to get to command a ship! But I’d rather try to impart the same gift of love that my Mom gave to me to my children.

I actually think that’s one of the worst thing about a big government taxation and the women’s lib movement. They make it harder and harder for women to fufill their role as mother. They make a family need two income earners… real choice, indeed!
 
(Quote) Do these women feel a sense of entitlement to be entirely supported by their husbands? Although all women should be permitted to be full-time mothers, most do not have the freedom to stop working outside the home. It is not an equal choice when less wealthy and marginalized women are not granted the option. Women who were born into an unearned advantaged position are relinquishing their power and independence to patriarchy.

She totally condradicts herself! I am a stay at home mom, and grateful that I can be one. But I am bad because I can be one and so many others can’t be? I should work because so many others have to??
 
How much money does a husband has to earn to allow his wife to stay at home? It all depends on a choice of lifestyle the couple makes. They aren’t priviledge at all. They drive eight year old cars, take no vacations outside the home, don’t go out to eat, don’t buy christmas presents for each other, live in a older smaller houses, don’t own an iPod, don’t have expensive cable/internet/cell phone packages, don’t have flat screen television sets. We do have student loans though, ouch!

If I did work, to make it worth while I have to subtract the cost of daycare, gas, car wear and tear, work clothes, and calculate the time in commute as “at work”. Careers, not jobs are not 9-5, they require you to have a business cellphone on in the evenings, travel out of state, and stay until the project is done. It was just easier for one person to focus on work.

Also when is it more economical to actually stay at home? In your 20’s/30’s you are at the bottom of the feeding chain at work. So you might as well use your skills in a volunteer situation. Both women and men make the highest salaries in their 50’s. Looking back 20 years it won’t make much difference whether you were an associate at a firm or a volunteer when you were 30 years old.
 
I came across this in researching for the website I have been developing.
Secret strategies
Radical feminists have devised a variety of secret strategies to overcome the objections of those women who do not want to give up the right to decide to have children.
These tactics were outlined in a series of secret strategy meetings. Copies of three memos and other reports from the New York-based Center for Reproductive Rights (CRR), were obtained by the Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute (C-FAM). These secret documents were subsequently published in the federal Congressional Record.
life.org.nz/abortionkeyissuesfeministagenda.htm

I included this quote
Feminist-socialist Simone de Beauvoir, said in her famous 1974 interview in The Saturday Review:
**“No woman should be authorized to stay at home to raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one.” **
This, as someone said (I forget who), is cultural marxism.
 
That last quote is what it is all about in a nutshell. The fight women fought WAS supposedly about CHOICE. Women wanted the right to choose their destiny. Well these women reject that choice. Just as they regret the choice for Life.
I’m a SAHM with a bachelors degree. It was a spousal decision. Do these women expect to have marriages where there is no discussion and compromise? Do they really believe all men see women who stay at home as lazy?
 
Now is she calling staying home and being a mother and not going out into the job force is selfish. On the other hand the problem of staying at home is being oppressed and going hysterical – the referance to the woman in the yellow-wallpaper story. That seems like some crazy logic there!?! Who wants to go hysterical for selfish purposes? Then again perhaps you don’t understand that staying home will make you hysterical?
 
Good to see so many on the side of the SAHM ( except often she doesn’t get to stay home much with all the running around with kids ); may be a name change like
Profession - “Career Mother”

With the increased longevity , many mothers who make the wise, loving and sacrifical decision to stay home to bring up the children, can in later years go back into the work force …

One of the values that Islam find threatening their culture is the breakup of families from women careers modeled by the west …

So could SAHM be a good weapon on terrorism …other evils 👍

Just hope these moms would use the time wisely - letting the little ones have time for Eucharistic Adoration …little neighborhood prayer groups , family prayer - with praise and worship ,learning scrptures , mission work Etc: :gopray2:
 
Rebecca New:
Our Blessed Mother was a stay at home Mom-what an inspiration!!! :angel1:
YES - AND WHILE IT IS ALMOST IMPOSIBLE TO MEASURE

HUMAN HEART

LIKE THE

SCRIPTURE TELL US , AND AS EVIDENCED BY THE NOW

INFAMOUS KINSEY REPORTS ETC : ) - IT IS GOOD TO LOOK

AHEAD - AT THE FRUIT THESE MOMS CAN HELP TO BRING -
COURAGEUOS, LOVING PEOPLE , TRUE TO THEIR ROLE… :clapping:
 
The views espoused by this “feminist” are becoming irrevelent, and they know it, hence the hysterical tone.
The secret that pro-lifers don’t want us to know is that they are becoming old and gray, having aborted or contracepted their future generation.
The truth, that children and motherhood are infinately rewarding and the lies sold to women by the radical feminists are empty promises, I think is becoming known. I just pray the damage caused by these bitter and mislead people isn’t past the point of no return.
 
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